[MannoFr]

Yesterday in "Doss" thirai vimarsanam in SunTV...
I heared a song composed by Yuvan Shanker Raja...
It is the same dito copy of his dad's "Adiye manam nilluna nikkaathadi" from Neengal Kettavai.

Appa kitta thirudunaa thappillai... thane..??

[Slonopotam845]

all ppl are quick to point out western albums and sources to prove that our md's are copying from them (of course the fans of those md's use the term "inspiration")

this just gives an impression none of our md's are original or they lack creativity

wud anyone here be able to point out the no.of western songs that have lifted / inspired / copied from our IR / ARR / any other indian composers' music? (if that has ever happened)

[softy54534]

Originally Posted by alias Yes give me the list and also mention how many songs IR copied (I am sorry for IR fans it is inspiration ) from others.

i shall give u the list of songs that arr copied as u ask....take it my friend


1)theme music of baba--------al capone by the untouchables - NOT A TRACE.... SO DONT EVeN GO THERE.

2)paarkathe paarkadhe(gentleman)----keelele by osibisa. YES MIGHT RESEMBLE IT.

3)telephone mani pol(indian)------combination of1)all that she wants from ace of the base and2)memphis stomp by dave gruisn in the farm - PURE CRAP. JJUST BECAUSE ARR USED THE SAME MUSIC LOOP AS ACE OF PURE, IT DOES MEAN IT IS COPY. JUST THE STARTING BASE WHICH HE USED THE LOOP. SO NONSENSE

4)anbe anbe(jeans)-------of these hope by peter gabriel - SAME THING... NOTHING DO WITH THE SONG.

5)thillana thillana(muthu)-------night bird by deep forest. THE HUMMING. THATS ALL. NO RESEMBLENCE TO THIS SONG.

6)jeans theme(madhumitha..)----famous album of micheal jackson ..will u be there. JESUS... STOP THIS CRAP.. NO WAY NEAR TO THAT SONG.

7)endrendrum punnagai(alaipayuthey)---cold hearted by paula abdul. TOTAL CRAP. YOU GOT TO SHARP YOUR EARS.

8)beat of pasion(taal)------race with devil on turkish highway by al de meola and steve vai. JUST BECAUSE HE USED SAME INSTRUMENT DOES NOT MEAN IT IS COPY.


hear them..................but hear them fully as in many songs the tune is stolen from the middle......

if u say these are all inspired then ysr is also inspired... NOW I KNOW U R SCARED TO GIVE THE LIST FOR IR. BUT HERE IS THE LIST FROM U COPIED.

1. Kanavu kaanum FROM KASME VAADE SONG FROM KALYANJI ANANDIJI
2. Theme from Mouna Raagam - FLASH DANCE THEME SONG
3. Chittu kuruvi (CHINNA VEEDU) - Antonin Dvorak's Symphony 9
4. Kan malargalin [Film: Thaippongal) - ABBA's Money money money
5. Darling darling darling [Film: Priya] - Boney M's number, Sunny
6. Entha poovilum vaasam [Film: Murattukkaalai] - Antonio Ruiz-Pipo's 'Cancione et Danza: 2. Danza'.
7. Ada veetukku veetukku [Film: Kizhakku Vaasal] - Mozart's 25th symphony, 1st movement
8. Poottukkal pottaalum [Film: Chatriyan] - 'My favorite things' from the all time classic Sound of Music!
9. Theeyani [Film: Nireekshana - The Sound of Music number 'My favorite things'!
10. Chittukku chella chittukku [Film: Nallavanukku Nallavan - Rimsky-Korsakov's 'The Tale Of The Kalendar Prince'
11. Kaadhal Vandhiruchu [Film: Kalyanaraman - 'Lady in Black' by the rock band Uriah Heep
12. Akkarai seemai azhaginiley [Film: Priya - British single 'Kites' by Simon Dupree and the Big Sound

wHEN FATHER ITSELF A BIG COPY CAT THEN CAN I SAY HOW CAN SON NOT GET AFFECTED. SO NILAVU STOP THAT CRAP. I AM NOT TRYING TO BLAME IR BUT BECAUSE OF U, I HAD TO LIST IT.

[HedgeYourBets]

IT IS THE ONE AND ONLY ONE MAYILIRAGE

[tgs]

Saradhaa,

That is not theft! He has admitted openly that it was just a mere 'cover version' of his dad's original. He did not do it thinking that it will not be noticed.

[Drugmachine]

DUNT MISS SWADES ON STAR GOLD AT 1:00 PM ON 15TH OF AUGUST......DO YOU HAVE A MOHAN BHARGAV IN YOU????

[NeroASERCH]

rsubras

http://www.danceage.com/media/276-Bl...s-Elephunk.php

Listen to track 11, Phunk theme. original song was from Raghavendra by IR. ITs a remix/rap on a original IR score.

Usually we have "cravings and craze" on western skin, thats why we compare our everything with western world. I dont know in what way our folk songs are worst than western song. why do one has to score western to prove their ability. As you know, our thiagaraja krithis exists for hundreds of years. Do you think any of the western album stand that long? I just hope ppl will learn to appreciate what we have and what we are good at.

Jai Hind.

[Peptobismol]

Yes IR has given a certificate to YSR to openly copy his songs and put it in new format. Since IR is incompetent to compose these songs in latest format... Ada somma irupa.. it looks like YSR is running out of ideas thats why this new way of composing songs. Lifting his dad's BGM and music and composing it as songs.

as u have mentioned about copying...............i shall also mention about it.

alias....,do u want a list of songs copied by our arr from foriegners?
if u want the list i am ready to give it

[PhillipHer]

Yes give me the list and also mention how many songs IR copied (I am sorry for IR fans it is inspiration ) from others.

i shall give u the list of songs that arr copied as u ask....take it my friend


1)theme music of baba--------al capone by the untouchables

2)paarkathe paarkadhe(gentleman)----keelele by osibisa

3)telephone mani pol(indian)------combination of1)all that she wants from ace of the base and2)memphis stomp by dave gruisn in the farm

4)anbe anbe(jeans)-------of these hope by peter gabriel

5)thillana thillana(muthu)-------night bird by deep forest

6)jeans theme(madhumitha..)----famous album of micheal jackson ..will u be there

7)endrendrum punnagai(alaipayuthey)---cold hearted by paula abdul

8)beat of pasion(taal)------race with devil on turkish highway by al de meola and steve vai


hear them..................but hear them fully as in many songs the tune is stolen from the middle......

if u say these are all inspired then ysr is also inspired...

[Beerinkol]

mayilirageeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-ah ahh

[Lt_Apple]

1. Mayilirage --- A Aa 8)

[Lillie_Steins]

Nilavu....thats just an extract from ITWOFS.com...u missed out the great parts!!!!

1 Hello Mr. ethirkatchi [Film: Iruvar]
The opening piano part definitely inspired. Source: Dave Grusin's Memphis Stomp, from the OST of The Firm, released in 1993.
Listen to Hello Mr. Ethirkatchi | Memphis Stomp
Genuine copy wrt the piano intro sequence. But the actual tune of the song remains original.

2 Kuluvalile [Film: Muthu]
The background rythm and beats inspired from the song 'rescue me' by Fontella Bass. The song was part of the OST of the film 'Sister Act', released in 1965.
Listen to Kuluvalile | Rescue me
The rythm has been used. However, the tune of the song remains original.

3 Akkadannu naanga [Film: Indian]
Again, the background beats are inspired. Source: Paul Young's 'Love of common people', from the album 'No Parlez', released in 1983.
Listen to Akkadannu | Love of common people
Oh sure, the beats are copied. Tune original!

4 Anbae anbae [Film: Jeans]
The opening sequence seems inspired from Peter Gabriel's 'Of these, hope...' from the album 'Passion: Music from the last temptation of Christ'.
Listen to anbae anbae | Of these, hope
Is A R Rahman a fan of Peter Gabriel? Tune is original!

5 Shakalaka Baby [Film: Mudhalvan]
The rhythm loop with an underground feel is also found in the track 'Flight IC 408' by State of Bengal and the track 'Aint talkin bout dub' by Apollo 440.
Listen to Shakalaka Baby | Flight IC 408 | Aint talkin bout dub
Possibly a commercially available loop, done with some improvisations by Rahman. The loop appears almost throughout the Apollo 440 track and at places in Flight IC 408. Actual song's tune original.

6 Thillana thillana [Film: Muthu]
The opening African female humming is ripped off from Deep Forests 'Night Bird'.
Listen to Thillana thillana | Night bird
Oh sure, ripped. Just that initial humming part. But if Deep Forest can rip off native African sounds....!

7 Poopookkum osai [Film: Minsara Kanavu]
The beats seem inspired from Lebo M's 'Rhythm of pride lands: Kube', which was last part of the Disney's Greatest Pop hits collection.
Listen to Poopookkum osai | Rhythm of pride lands: Kube
The beats are sure inspired. As usual the tune remains very original.

8 Thenmerku paruvakkaatru [Film: Karuthamma]
The beats are similar to a track by Dr Alban, 'Om we rembwe ike'. Note that Dr Alban himself uses a lot of commercially available loops and CDs to create songs!
Listen to Thenmerku paruvakaatru | Om we rembwe ike
The beats are sure inspired. As usual the tune remains very original. The 'yei nee romba azhaga irukke' song, 'Poi sollalaam' uses similar beats!

9 Paarkadhey [Film: Gentleman]
Alleged to be inspired from the Osibisa number 'Kelele'
Listen to Paarkadhey | Kelele
You decide!

10 Ekamevadhvitheeyam - Theme music from Baba [Film: Baba]
Inspired from the the background music of The Untouchables (1987).
Listen to Ekamevadhvitheeyam | Al Capone (The Untouchables)
'Ekamevadhvitheeyam' means "there is only one paramatma, no second entity". This song opens almost exactly like the prominent score from the cult classic 'The Untouchables' with music by Ennio Morricone. Why Rahman chose to lift this so blatantly really beats me, even if figures in Baba for a few fleeting seconds! In the soundtrack of The Untouchables, this tune plays almost throughout the movie, more so for the softer/sadder moments! I'm adding the track called 'Al Capone' which probably brings out the copy best, in my opinion! Tip: Play the Baba number in full volume, the opening plays in very low volume!

http://itwofs.com/tamil-arr.html

all the stuffs ARR took/ripp from all the above mentions r available in a LOOP CD for Music Directors!!!!

[PhillipHer]

do you want start fight between arr's,ysr's,hj's fans???

[TorryJens]

yeah njv it is sick to see always our composers' good work being dismissed as copy/lift etc.,

i am damn sure for our richness , so much of our traditional music / work would have been blatantly used in some other part of the world

[radikal]

dai dumbdhinesh,

just because ur a arrhardcore fan...listen to mayil irake the whole time..doesnt mean that the song is awesome...as u said we will c which song will last longer...im a big fan of rahman too...but that doesnt mean that every song he produces is out of world..in this comparison..suttrum vizhi is clearly the winner...u will c when aah aah and ghajini movie releases!!! I hope for Harris that he gets even higher for his talent

[Beerinkol]

U all know which song I will choose! - but I guess we should give a combined award to Uyire as well - antha paatum nalla thaan iruku..even HJ's latest song in Ghajini - our maalai is awesome

[doctorzlo]

"anyway..........ir had done thousands of songs.............and u can mention only 10 songs.

but arr had done only hundreds of songs and i am giving the same number of copies....so who is better ....tell me"

So you accept that IR has copied and I did not accept ARR has lifted and that is the difference. Now you tell me.. who is better. THE PERSON WHO HAS COPIED OR THE ONE WHO HAS COMPOSED LIMITED AND NOT COPIED.

you are funny...................who r u to not accept...........i have given u the list from which he had lifted.even if u dont accept thats the truth

[Lt_Apple]

Hi all,
Which is the best song??

1. Mayilirage --- A Aa
2. Uyire --- Totti Jaya
3. Kathal Enbathu --- Oru Kallooriyin Kathai

[S.T.D.]

i jump on arr wagon to when you can choose only between the three above mentioned songs.

voting for mayil iraghe.

[Lillie_Steins]

hahahahahahahha ...when u say " sutrum vizhi is awesome" it strikes me Sutrum Vizhi from KKKK...that is worth what u call awesome, but this particular song ur saying awesome...hahahahahhahahahha ..sorry..i cant help but laughing....Mayil irage is the best melody of 2005, and mark my word,only Mayil irage will last untill the end of the year,Ghazini songs will never...just remember this ok va??? :P in local radio in malaysia they r playing Mayil irage like very very often, (my dad,who is IR fan actually got annoyed when he comes back home also Mayil irage song is running on my pc "...and no offence ya...Bombay Jayashree is the most aweful singer in TFM,her Tamil might be good, but her voice...haahhahaha..the only song which her voice sounded divine was Narumugayee & Theenda Theenda - Thullavadho illamai,the rest...OUT Machan!!!! what eva it is,i know u hate Mayilirage coz its more beautiful than Sutrum Vizhi rite?? nvm...enjoy ur useless...i mean 'super' songs....and we will enjoy Mayilirage....

STILL MY VOTE GOES TO MAYILIRAGE - ANBE AARUYIRE... 8)