[NeroASERCH]

rra,even I have heard about the movie version of many songs having the right length of preludes/interludes. Its a pity that they decided to trim it down in the audio recording. Some of those songs,need to be remastered and brought out in better sound quality. I have a huge wish list. I believe many hitherto unheard instruments,basslines in MSV songs would come to the fore if properly remastered

[tgs]

Thanks RR.
Another one from later years- vaLamaana bhoomiyil from ore vaanam ore bhoomi , a KJY-MSV favourite of mine,one of many such. KB,Strings,sitar pieces folowed by a smooth mridhangham rhythm pattern that sets the tempo for the song.

I hope paartha gnyaabagam and other songs from Pudhiya paravai have been mentioned already.

The fast flute/sitar pieces in the interludes of "namma ooru singaari" - set to a rock'n'roll rhythm but with a Hindolam(or sudhdha dhanyaasi depending on how you look at it) base.
The song has a trumpet postlude as well.

[Lillie_Steins]

Following varavendum oru pozhudhu, another freaky song for me was Rock Rock Rock by Chandrababu/VNS from Pathibakthi.Listen to this if you havent. Not so much for preludes/interludes but for the whole song itself. The song effortlessly switches between rock'n'roll and Ataana(heavy raaga not commonly handled in TFM) with Chandrabubu's English accent in stark contrast to VNS. MSV's madness in full display

http://www.musicindiaonline.com/l/26/s/movie_name.5209/

[softy54534]

Hi vijay

One of my favourites, that blew me away when I first listened to it and compelled me to look at MSV from a different angle was the Jazz pioneer "varavendum oru pozhudhu" -piano/brass/drums all having rollicking fun and then just about slowing down to set the mood for LRE's crooning. Listen to it here

This song was discussed under jazz category in other site. one should have some knowledge about music to realise this master piece.

Rra: you are right .Unfortunately most of the MSV songs preludes were edited . Prelude of THOOTAL POO MALARUM is amazing .Sogn starts with TMS/PS humming followed by violin bit but unfortunately this portion got edited .

Prelude&Interlude of ELLORUM NALAM VAZHA NAAN PADUVAEN from ENGA MAMA .Outstanding composistion.

ramesh

[MannoFr]

1. "Ellorum Nalam" is really out of the world composition. If Iillya Nila is considered ultimate song for Guitar, Idhu oru pon mali pozhuthu/Kuzhaludhum kannanukku for flute then this one is for Piano. Listen to the Piano in preludes and interludes. Somewhere I read that it was played by Henry Manuel father of Viji Manuel. I think it is one of the gems by the Mega combo by Sivaji,MSV,Kannadhasan and TMS. If you start counting this combos gems, it is a huge list.

2. Another one is "Nilavai parthu vanum sonnathu" by TMS. Guess what the length of the prelude is 36 seconds. Listen to the Whistle and followed by the flute. I feel this flute part is very IRish. I read somewhere that KD wrote this song when he had difference of opinion with Kamaraj. Kamaraj did not want to see him once he wanted to visit him or something like that. Very meaningful lines.

Thanks.

[9mm_fan]

Hi,

Continuing on this topic, what abt the prelude to the superb tms-ps no "Pesuvathu Kiliya" in panathottam. The original prelude, which is seen in the movie, is a lengthy one with vioilin prominent before the bango drums starts to synchronise with mgr knocking saroja devi on the head with his knuckles from the top of the fiat car.

The interludes between the stanzas is the same but for the subtle difference in that the first one uses violin and the second one uses accordion most prominently. It is these sorts of subtle differences that the great duo of VR bring which captivates the listerners to this day.

For the information this movie was released in 1963 or so - and the song as well as most others in this movie - for example the drunken duet "javvadi medayittu, sakkarayil pongalittu" and the tms solo (a ypical mgr no) 'Heh ennathan nadakkum nadakkatume, irutinil needhi marayattume" - have stood the test of time for almost half a century. No need to say more!

[Beerinkol]

Hi,

Talking abt jazz nos, what abt the LRE solo "aadavaralam paadavaralaam paathi udalai thedi varalam". I still remember the prelude of this song being used as signature tune in ceylon radio for one of their weekly programmes along in the 1960s along with the excellent MB Srinivavasan composed no (PBS and S Janaki duet) "Thnnangeethu Unjalile" in "Paathai Theriyuthu paar".

And in Jaya TV's Thenkinnam programme (I don't know how many watch this on weekday nights between 11 and 12 pm or during daytime between 9 30 and 10 30 am) the prelude is the last song in Kaadikka Neramillai (Nenjathai Allikkonjam Tha Tha Tha) which is another mindboggling no in that movie (one of the best ever comedies in Tamil films along with the Kamal starrer Michael Mathana Kaamarajan).

The variety of songs that VR and then MSV gave is simply out of this world. They have not been appreciated as much as the later MDs like Ilayaraja. I wish the current generation listens to their compositions which music talent programmes aired by sun and jaya tvs achieve to some extent when the emphasis is on old songs.

[Ifroham4]

Hi venus


Another one is "Nilavai parthu vanum sonnathu" by TMS. Guess what the length of the prelude is 36 seconds. Listen to the Whistle and followed by the flute. I feel this flute part is very IRi

You have pointed out another gem of MSV. flute sound will be different. As pointed out in the earlier mails this portion of interlude also edited . I never heard this in VB&madras A.

ramesh

[HedgeYourBets]

Naan nandri solven , a P.Susheela & MSV ( doing just humming ) is one of the all time hits of MSV with his favourite rhythms !
This number had a long prelude ( but I have never heard this in VB ) but its found in the album

Nice to see so many responses on MSV !

So, no one has forgotten MSV & his great contributions !

[radikal]

Billgates,incidentally I have been hunting for the song Naan nandri solven everywhere with no luck. If any of you happen to have it in mp3, will request you to upload it in coolgoose or elsewhere. The realaudio version of it is in musicindiaonline. Every other song in Kuzhandhaiyum dheivamum including anbulla maanvizhiye is available, except for this elusive one.

[Beerinkol]

Hi billgates

Nice to see so many responses on MSV !

So, no one has forgotten MSV & his great contributions

I think you felt like that because MSV fans are not active through net(while compare to IR&ARR fans).

regards
ramesh

[Beerinkol]

When Billgates mentioned about Naan nandri solven, I recollected another gem - Anbulla maan viziye ! . though the preludes are a a curtain raiser to the pallavi, MSV used lead guitar !

Lovely !

[Raj_Copi_Jin]

The violin-trumphet preludes followed by flute were a thunderous start to INBAMAY....UNDHAN PER PENMAYO

This song moves at jet speed !

One of the best of Makkal thilagam !

[brraverishhh]

MSV must have been the pioneer in trumpet usage which IR faithfully followed suit.
Who can forget the prelude and interlude music of "indru vandha endda mayakkam" with PS's honey soaked voice ["KKadavulada"] . "Thangathoniyile" from USV with south east asian flavour in the prelude and interlude music is such a delight

[Peptobismol]

True Thumburu .

I could sense that in Yadhum oore yaavarum kelir - Ninaithale inikkum - trumphets everywhere here !

Trumphets again in Paramasivan kazuthilirundha paambu kettadhu !

How did I forget Parakkum pandhu parakkum - the guitar -Violin interludes are one of the lengthiest & way ahead of times !

Not to forget - Kalyana naal paarka chollalaamaa - trumphets & double bass !! vow !

unbeatable interludes for the above 2 songs

[Beerinkol]

Trumphets in the same movie O MARY THILROOPA song in the prelude and interlude.

I am recollecting song from the film VARUVAN VADIVELAN .

Joyful singapore(spb/ps) amazing orchestra .

ramesh

[Drugmachine]

Trumphets in the same movie O MARY THILROOPA song in the prelude and interlude.

I am recollecting song from the film VARUVAN VADIVELAN .

Joyful singapore(spb/ps) amazing orchestra .

ramesh

Adhe padathula - Naan endral adhu avalum naanum - the preludes are with trumphets . though few seconds only but still captivating !

Kadhal vilayada kattil idhu kanne - has lots of trumphet interludes

[9mm_fan]

dont forget the grand opening to "adho andha paravai pola" and the interludes which feature brass

[Raj_Copi_Jin]

Billgates
it is inappropriate to pass comments just like that, you could have given some examples

But what i thought IR did remarkably different was start a song with music than the song itself. See the progress from Annakili to other movies in the same era.

[Raj_Copi_Jin]

BillGates,
What made you think that MSV/TKR were forgotton?

As long as qualiy TFM listeners around their songs will be
heard and appreciated.

Thanks.