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**NeroASERCH** · 04-22-2006, 02:40 AM

vaidy, classic response. I havent seen a more stupid argument in this forum - and that's saying a lot!

**9mm_fan** · 04-22-2006, 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by Scale A MD with the most composed films +1800

Proof??
Can you list the film names atleast for 600 films Sanjeevi I too Dont understand how this rumour is going around without any authentication

Even If we consider that 100 movies are made per year in tamil cinema--- the years in which MSV was active were 1960 till 1976 comprises 16 years if he had composed all the movies released those years it counts to 1600...and adding a buffer of 4 years till 1980 after which he got retired gracefully....
and lets approximate it to be 50% of the movies released it makes 50 X 4 = 200

Math is right

1600+200 = 1800 but Can anyone believe this

And if this is real why not some MSV fan take up this matter to 'Guiness book of world Records' and auntheticate it

Scale madhiri aalukellam entha proofum thevai padathu... Britney madonna vida ARR athiga units vithirukkarnnu etho oru magazinela vantha seidhi ippa eppadi ella edathilum paravi 'thirumba thirumba solra poi oru nerathila unmai aayidum' ndra mathiri unmai aayiducho athey madhiri Intha MSV matterum unmai aayidum pola :P

No wonder he is a genius and a very good composer but rumours like this doesnt add anything to his 'Kreedam'.

**HedgeYourBets** · 04-22-2006, 04:23 AM

RS, MSV debuted as early as in 1953.....ur arguement that he was active from 1960 only is a bull-s***t.......and also he composed for many movies after 1976 till the latest viswathulasi.......

RS, i can understand that u r insecure whenever ppl. praise MSV or ARRahman cos IR's era was sandwiched betn these 2.......i can only pity u......

btw, ARR's selling more than madonna-britney was claimed by london press and not by local usilampatti mookan.......

**Beerinkol** · 04-22-2006, 05:24 AM

Originally Posted by Scale A MD with the most composed films +1800

Proof??

Can you list the film names atleast for 600 films It was said by SPB in IR Show - Jaya TV. What more you need?

Thats why he said this may be even a unknown World RECORD!

YOU guys are never short of amusement. Keep going!

**PhillipHer** · 04-22-2006, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by Sanjeevi Originally Posted by Scale A MD with the most composed films +1800

Proof??
Can you list the film names atleast for 600 films Scale madhiri aalukellam entha proofum thevai padathu... Britney madonna vida ARR athiga units vithirukkarnnu etho oru magazinela vantha seidhi ippa eppadi ella edathilum paravi 'thirumba thirumba solra poi oru nerathila unmai aayidum' ndra mathiri unmai aayiducho athey madhiri Intha MSV matterum unmai aayidum pola :P

No wonder he is a genius and a very good composer but rumours like this doesnt add anything to his 'Kreedam'. RS, Stop your cracking jokes. Give me a break, I will come up with the exact link.

**radikal** · 04-22-2006, 05:32 AM

i dont know if anyone kept track of ir recent sppech- goes like this

ir looking at msv- nanga podura music neenga thupina echil- ir himself accepted. ithu mattum podhuma, innum konjam venuma

**Beerinkol** · 04-22-2006, 05:54 AM

I feel ashamed that our topics are going off the tracks. I thought this forum was to appreciate MSV's creations and who are these kathu kutiis inbetween talking about directors at a time when we are seriously discussing about the "creator". stop this forthwith. I shall only post if someone talks some sense instead of nonsense.

**LottiFurmann** · 04-22-2006, 05:54 AM

etho voru magazine illa. TIMES Magazine.

http://www.time.com/time/europe/maga...250008,00.html

boo bu boo, rubu boo

Googling, few more

A.R.Rahman at CBSO (City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra)

On 5-6 March the world-famous music composer, A.R.Rahman, conducted the CBSO (City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra) of Bollywood blockbusters including his own themes from Bombay, Roja, Taal, Dil Se, Warriors of Heaven and Earth and the Oscar-nominated Lagaan. The concert was titled "Hooray for Bollywood".

The CBSO (City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra) is widely considered one of Europe's finest orchestras.

The orchestra started with the remarks "Tonight we have a very special guest who has been topping charts for over a decade and the World wide sales of his work exceeding more than 40 million more than the sales of Madonna and Britney Spears put together. Ladies and gentlemen please welcome the hugely popular and very talented, A.R.RAHMAN."

Rahman's appearance at Symphony Hall is believed to have pulled in what is believed to be the largest ever non-white audience for a mainstream British orchestra. Delighted orchestra executives say the demand for seats was so high, they could have sold three times as many seats as they did.

**NeroASERCH** · 04-22-2006, 05:56 AM

just listened to malligai en mannan mayangum , nanoru kuzhandai nee oru kuzhandai........any comments please?

**9mm_fan** · 04-22-2006, 06:06 AM

:::ir looking at msv- nanga podura music neenga thupina echil- ir himself accepted. ithu mattum podhuma, innum konjam venuma:::

enakku indha video venum ummm ummm

Back to topic.

vaidy, please rename this thread to Mellisai Mannar MSV. I am big fan of him for his eternal melodies. His combo with Kannadasan is the best ever in TFM.

Please share your thoughts about the legend. Thanks!

**Big A** · 04-22-2006, 06:12 AM

i dont know if anyone kept track of ir recent sppech- goes like this

ir looking at msv- nanga podura music neenga thupina echil- ir himself accepted. ithu mattum podhuma, innum konjam venuma

Nobody is refuting this

'Naan potta isai ellam neenga potta pitchai athu ellathayum unga kaladiyilayae samapikiraennu' kooda thaan Raja solli irukaar.

Vaidy have you got any problem in providing the exact or atleast a partial list of the films scored by MSV to claim atleast 1000 movies scored by Him

Maddy and Scale What are your problems dudes
Suppose somebody is asking you to give away a list of Movies scored by ARR you can very well do that and I can do the same For IR. But blindly accepting A false Claim is not my forte. If you want you can do that

AFAIK Its IR who has scored more no. of movies and the list comes to some where over 875+ movies disregarding the dubbed ones. And I will never want to give away this record by IR for someone's false claim :P

If you people will be generous enough to correct this Iam ready to accept it and will stand corrected.

**Big A** · 04-22-2006, 06:23 AM

http://www.time.com/time/europe/maga...250008,00.html

The orchestra started with the remarks "Tonight we have a very special guest who has been topping charts for over a decade and the World wide sales of his work exceeding more than 40 million more than the sales of Madonna and Britney Spears put together. Ladies and gentlemen please welcome the hugely popular and very talented, A.R.RAHMAN"

Rahman, 36, may not be a household name to Westerners, but he is every bit as much a musical monarch as Lloyd Webber is, having sold well over 100 million CDs. A little perspective, folks: that's about the same as Madonna and Britney Spears combined.

Now is it 100 million or 40 million

CBSO happend after BD

and incidentaly the figure drops from 100 million to 40 million

And This proves beyond doubt that these magazines or websites give away some figures to hype up ARR and his sales figures and people like maddy and scale go by it :P

you love this smiley aint it scale

**Drugmachine** · 04-22-2006, 06:33 AM

just listened to malligai en mannan mayangum , nanoru kuzhandai nee oru kuzhandai........any comments please?

Vaidy You would have thought we are here to ridicule MSV and his talent. Its not and I love most of his compositions. But I'll stand till death against this false claim of him composing 1800+ movies which is highly impossible given the circumstances and situations under the time when he was actively composing.If You are not able to provide us proofs get ahead and go on with the thread and start discussing about his eternal classics rather than trying to belittle IR.
And some body claimed that SPB said the same during IR Live show of Jaya TV ...I dont remember anything like that however I'll watch that programme again to confirm. Even If he had said this I would only conclude that he too got carried away by this rumour which is well set to become a reality soon.

**Fegasderty** · 04-22-2006, 07:11 AM

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**HedgeYourBets** · 04-22-2006, 07:49 AM

vaidy,
konjam `indhiran-chandhiran' varNanaigaLaiththavirththu (avar creator maththavA director / phenomenon of this millenium etc.), MSV sir'Oda isaiyai patRi mattum discuss paNNungO...nalla discussion piRakkum...

illAtti kuzhAyadi dhAn

I'm sorry to stereotype people of my own state...but it's a sad state that most of the time we use ultra superlatives to describe people...people who are known only in their street also will become `thAnaiththalaivar' 'akila ulaga mahAn' etc...

**tgs** · 04-22-2006, 08:09 AM

Though I admire both MSV and IR ( like 2 eyes ) ....if one looks at which are the songs still being heard for looooooooooong ......

DONT YOU GUYS REALISE THAT MELLISAI MANNAR STANDS WAY AHEAD OF EVEN IR !!

MSV's most of the songs of 60s are still being heard at large.....the longevity factor

I wonder any one listens to IR's 70s even ( which IMO the most imaginative period of IR )

Somebody here counts the number game ...how many movies MSV scored and all..... IMO its irrelevant as to how many movies one composed....

WHAT IS RELEVANT SHOULD BE HOW MANY WORTHWHILE MOVIES ONE COMPOSED.....

Lets salute the senior Master

**tgs** · 04-22-2006, 11:17 AM

Balaji, konjam kuzhappam...

Even the songs of KVM, SMS and the likes are evergreen and are being heard by many. Could it be that there're many other factors besides MSV? (pAdal varigal, padamAkkiya vidham, kadhai amaippu, MGR-Sivaji factor etc)

And why MSV's 70's-80's hits do not have the same kind of longevity?

On another angle, for some IR admirers, they still remember closely his songs...(like my car CD player has all the time IR stuff)...

In any case, `longevity' is a debatable topic...

**softy54534** · 04-22-2006, 11:58 AM

I think the discussions should be focused on
-- bringing out the important aspects about why MSV deserves Bharath Ratna. That way the discussions here can be used for submitting such proposal to the Indian Govt.
-- list the movies for which he composed music

May be this topic can be brought under "MELLISAI MANNAR MSV - THE SENIOR MAESTRO WITH EVERLASTING TF"
Link:
http://tfmpage.mayyam.com/hub/viewto...=asc&start=225

**Fegasderty** · 04-22-2006, 12:04 PM

Why don't you rename the thread to "A.R.Rahman the greatest music creator" ?

A.R.Rahman is the best !

**S.T.D.** · 08-15-2006, 08:00 AM

IR is the best..
I agree others are good in modern music..

But when you IR you feel like youre seeing a true magician..
How to say a GOD...

Neetiki thalaivanagiya ennai ISaiku talaivananga vaitha ore Kadavul Rajathan...

* Sorry konjam emotional ah poitten...

04-22-2006, 02:40 AM	#21
NeroASERCH Join Date Jul 2006 Posts 5,147 Senior Member	vaidy, classic response. I havent seen a more stupid argument in this forum - and that's saying a lot! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-22-2006, 02:46 AM	#22
9mm_fan Join Date May 2007 Age 53 Posts 5,191 Senior Member	Originally Posted by Scale A MD with the most composed films +1800 Proof?? Can you list the film names atleast for 600 films Sanjeevi I too Dont understand how this rumour is going around without any authentication Even If we consider that 100 movies are made per year in tamil cinema--- the years in which MSV was active were 1960 till 1976 comprises 16 years if he had composed all the movies released those years it counts to 1600...and adding a buffer of 4 years till 1980 after which he got retired gracefully.... and lets approximate it to be 50% of the movies released it makes 50 X 4 = 200 Math is right 1600+200 = 1800 but Can anyone believe this And if this is real why not some MSV fan take up this matter to 'Guiness book of world Records' and auntheticate it Scale madhiri aalukellam entha proofum thevai padathu... Britney madonna vida ARR athiga units vithirukkarnnu etho oru magazinela vantha seidhi ippa eppadi ella edathilum paravi 'thirumba thirumba solra poi oru nerathila unmai aayidum' ndra mathiri unmai aayiducho athey madhiri Intha MSV matterum unmai aayidum pola :P No wonder he is a genius and a very good composer but rumours like this doesnt add anything to his 'Kreedam'. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-22-2006, 04:23 AM	#23
HedgeYourBets Join Date Aug 2008 Posts 4,655 Senior Member	RS, MSV debuted as early as in 1953.....ur arguement that he was active from 1960 only is a bull-s***t.......and also he composed for many movies after 1976 till the latest viswathulasi....... RS, i can understand that u r insecure whenever ppl. praise MSV or ARRahman cos IR's era was sandwiched betn these 2.......i can only pity u...... btw, ARR's selling more than madonna-britney was claimed by london press and not by local usilampatti mookan....... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-22-2006, 05:24 AM	#24
Beerinkol Join Date Dec 2006 Posts 5,268 Senior Member	Originally Posted by Scale A MD with the most composed films +1800 Proof?? Can you list the film names atleast for 600 films It was said by SPB in IR Show - Jaya TV. What more you need? Thats why he said this may be even a unknown World RECORD! YOU guys are never short of amusement. Keep going! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-22-2006, 05:29 AM	#25
PhillipHer Join Date Jun 2008 Age 58 Posts 4,481 Senior Member	Originally Posted by Sanjeevi Originally Posted by Scale A MD with the most composed films +1800 Proof?? Can you list the film names atleast for 600 films Scale madhiri aalukellam entha proofum thevai padathu... Britney madonna vida ARR athiga units vithirukkarnnu etho oru magazinela vantha seidhi ippa eppadi ella edathilum paravi 'thirumba thirumba solra poi oru nerathila unmai aayidum' ndra mathiri unmai aayiducho athey madhiri Intha MSV matterum unmai aayidum pola :P No wonder he is a genius and a very good composer but rumours like this doesnt add anything to his 'Kreedam'. RS, Stop your cracking jokes. Give me a break, I will come up with the exact link. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-22-2006, 05:32 AM	#26
radikal Join Date Oct 2005 Age 54 Posts 4,523 Senior Member	i dont know if anyone kept track of ir recent sppech- goes like this ir looking at msv- nanga podura music neenga thupina echil- ir himself accepted. ithu mattum podhuma, innum konjam venuma Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-22-2006, 05:54 AM	#27
Beerinkol Join Date Dec 2006 Posts 5,268 Senior Member	I feel ashamed that our topics are going off the tracks. I thought this forum was to appreciate MSV's creations and who are these kathu kutiis inbetween talking about directors at a time when we are seriously discussing about the "creator". stop this forthwith. I shall only post if someone talks some sense instead of nonsense. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-22-2006, 05:54 AM	#28
LottiFurmann Join Date Jan 2008 Posts 4,494 Senior Member	etho voru magazine illa. TIMES Magazine. http://www.time.com/time/europe/maga...250008,00.html boo bu boo, rubu boo Googling, few more A.R.Rahman at CBSO (City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra) On 5-6 March the world-famous music composer, A.R.Rahman, conducted the CBSO (City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra) of Bollywood blockbusters including his own themes from Bombay, Roja, Taal, Dil Se, Warriors of Heaven and Earth and the Oscar-nominated Lagaan. The concert was titled "Hooray for Bollywood". The CBSO (City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra) is widely considered one of Europe's finest orchestras. The orchestra started with the remarks "Tonight we have a very special guest who has been topping charts for over a decade and the World wide sales of his work exceeding more than 40 million more than the sales of Madonna and Britney Spears put together. Ladies and gentlemen please welcome the hugely popular and very talented, A.R.RAHMAN." Rahman's appearance at Symphony Hall is believed to have pulled in what is believed to be the largest ever non-white audience for a mainstream British orchestra. Delighted orchestra executives say the demand for seats was so high, they could have sold three times as many seats as they did. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-22-2006, 05:56 AM	#29
NeroASERCH Join Date Jul 2006 Posts 5,147 Senior Member	just listened to malligai en mannan mayangum , nanoru kuzhandai nee oru kuzhandai........any comments please? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-22-2006, 06:06 AM	#30
9mm_fan Join Date May 2007 Age 53 Posts 5,191 Senior Member	:::ir looking at msv- nanga podura music neenga thupina echil- ir himself accepted. ithu mattum podhuma, innum konjam venuma::: enakku indha video venum ummm ummm Back to topic. vaidy, please rename this thread to Mellisai Mannar MSV. I am big fan of him for his eternal melodies. His combo with Kannadasan is the best ever in TFM. Please share your thoughts about the legend. Thanks! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-22-2006, 06:12 AM	#31
Big A Join Date Oct 2005 Age 50 Posts 4,148 Administrator	i dont know if anyone kept track of ir recent sppech- goes like this ir looking at msv- nanga podura music neenga thupina echil- ir himself accepted. ithu mattum podhuma, innum konjam venuma Nobody is refuting this 'Naan potta isai ellam neenga potta pitchai athu ellathayum unga kaladiyilayae samapikiraennu' kooda thaan Raja solli irukaar. Vaidy have you got any problem in providing the exact or atleast a partial list of the films scored by MSV to claim atleast 1000 movies scored by Him Maddy and Scale What are your problems dudes Suppose somebody is asking you to give away a list of Movies scored by ARR you can very well do that and I can do the same For IR. But blindly accepting A false Claim is not my forte. If you want you can do that AFAIK Its IR who has scored more no. of movies and the list comes to some where over 875+ movies disregarding the dubbed ones. And I will never want to give away this record by IR for someone's false claim :P If you people will be generous enough to correct this Iam ready to accept it and will stand corrected. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-22-2006, 06:23 AM	#32
Big A Join Date Oct 2005 Age 50 Posts 4,148 Administrator	http://www.time.com/time/europe/maga...250008,00.html The orchestra started with the remarks "Tonight we have a very special guest who has been topping charts for over a decade and the World wide sales of his work exceeding more than 40 million more than the sales of Madonna and Britney Spears put together. Ladies and gentlemen please welcome the hugely popular and very talented, A.R.RAHMAN" Rahman, 36, may not be a household name to Westerners, but he is every bit as much a musical monarch as Lloyd Webber is, having sold well over 100 million CDs. A little perspective, folks: that's about the same as Madonna and Britney Spears combined. Now is it 100 million or 40 million CBSO happend after BD and incidentaly the figure drops from 100 million to 40 million And This proves beyond doubt that these magazines or websites give away some figures to hype up ARR and his sales figures and people like maddy and scale go by it :P you love this smiley aint it scale Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-22-2006, 06:33 AM	#33
Drugmachine Join Date Apr 2006 Posts 4,490 Senior Member	just listened to malligai en mannan mayangum , nanoru kuzhandai nee oru kuzhandai........any comments please? Vaidy You would have thought we are here to ridicule MSV and his talent. Its not and I love most of his compositions. But I'll stand till death against this false claim of him composing 1800+ movies which is highly impossible given the circumstances and situations under the time when he was actively composing.If You are not able to provide us proofs get ahead and go on with the thread and start discussing about his eternal classics rather than trying to belittle IR. And some body claimed that SPB said the same during IR Live show of Jaya TV ...I dont remember anything like that however I'll watch that programme again to confirm. Even If he had said this I would only conclude that he too got carried away by this rumour which is well set to become a reality soon. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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HedgeYourBets Join Date Aug 2008 Posts 4,655 Senior Member	vaidy, konjam `indhiran-chandhiran' varNanaigaLaiththavirththu (avar creator maththavA director / phenomenon of this millenium etc.), MSV sir'Oda isaiyai patRi mattum discuss paNNungO...nalla discussion piRakkum... illAtti kuzhAyadi dhAn I'm sorry to stereotype people of my own state...but it's a sad state that most of the time we use ultra superlatives to describe people...people who are known only in their street also will become `thAnaiththalaivar' 'akila ulaga mahAn' etc... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-22-2006, 08:09 AM	#36
tgs Join Date Mar 2007 Age 48 Posts 5,125 Senior Member	Though I admire both MSV and IR ( like 2 eyes ) ....if one looks at which are the songs still being heard for looooooooooong ...... DONT YOU GUYS REALISE THAT MELLISAI MANNAR STANDS WAY AHEAD OF EVEN IR !! MSV's most of the songs of 60s are still being heard at large.....the longevity factor I wonder any one listens to IR's 70s even ( which IMO the most imaginative period of IR ) Somebody here counts the number game ...how many movies MSV scored and all..... IMO its irrelevant as to how many movies one composed.... WHAT IS RELEVANT SHOULD BE HOW MANY WORTHWHILE MOVIES ONE COMPOSED..... Lets salute the senior Master Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-22-2006, 11:17 AM	#37
tgs Join Date Mar 2007 Age 48 Posts 5,125 Senior Member	Balaji, konjam kuzhappam... Even the songs of KVM, SMS and the likes are evergreen and are being heard by many. Could it be that there're many other factors besides MSV? (pAdal varigal, padamAkkiya vidham, kadhai amaippu, MGR-Sivaji factor etc) And why MSV's 70's-80's hits do not have the same kind of longevity? On another angle, for some IR admirers, they still remember closely his songs...(like my car CD player has all the time IR stuff)... In any case, `longevity' is a debatable topic... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-22-2006, 11:58 AM	#38
softy54534 Join Date Apr 2007 Posts 5,457 Senior Member	I think the discussions should be focused on -- bringing out the important aspects about why MSV deserves Bharath Ratna. That way the discussions here can be used for submitting such proposal to the Indian Govt. -- list the movies for which he composed music May be this topic can be brought under "MELLISAI MANNAR MSV - THE SENIOR MAESTRO WITH EVERLASTING TF" Link: http://tfmpage.mayyam.com/hub/viewto...=asc&start=225 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-22-2006, 12:04 PM	#39
Fegasderty Join Date Mar 2008 Posts 5,023 Senior Member	Why don't you rename the thread to "A.R.Rahman the greatest music creator" ? A.R.Rahman is the best ! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-15-2006, 08:00 AM	#40
S.T.D. Join Date May 2008 Age 42 Posts 5,220 Senior Member	IR is the best.. I agree others are good in modern music.. But when you IR you feel like youre seeing a true magician.. How to say a GOD... Neetiki thalaivanagiya ennai ISaiku talaivananga vaitha ore Kadavul Rajathan... * Sorry konjam emotional ah poitten... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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