[HedgeYourBets]

Karthik Raja, now dragged down to the level of doing duds

Yep - its sad ... now KR is doing lot of ADs I heard, the lates pothys ad for 'kaaviyak kaathal pattu' is by him

Bharadwaj is an over-rated,undeserving MD

I agree with you, Almost all his albums had copied songs / repeat of his own tunes etc., I didn't like Autograph for any of its songs / BGM ... (BGM was horrible to say the least, Sabesh - Murali literally killed whatever emotions cheran filled in the movie by strange sounds and fancy hummings, that sound so alien ...)

NagaS

[radikal]

NagaS/rajasaranam..
What if IR had scored the BGMs...??? then, this would have been another 'azhagi'.. what do you say..?

[Slonopotam845]

vijay, well said. I can see where that terrible annoyance to Autograph is coming from, havign felt the same irritation every time I happen to stumble across the dud ovvoru pookkalume even for a fleeting moment while surfing channels. Infact, Chitra is the only saving grace of the song and perhaps deserves some credit for salvaging something out of the song.

It is when you see the likes of BWj, YSR and SAR succeed commercially that you feel pangs for someone like Karthik Raja, now dragged down to the level of doing duds like Neranja Manasu(and yet managing to give a decent Paarthu Po).

Bharadwaj is an over-rated,undeserving MD, though he had his moments in Poo Veli(oru poo ezhudhum) But when we can question IR for a odd karagattakari after 25 years of gems, one poo veli should not give the likes of Bharadwaj licence to inflict miseries upon miseries on us.

[Big A]

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[Peptobismol]

What happened to the director of dum-dum-dum? Did he make any other movie, if so who was the MD? I thought Karthik Raja did a decent job in the songs..I like `ragasiyamAi'...and `dEsingu rAjA' was good too...

[Raj_Copi_Jin]

Vijayr ,

Veesum katrukum - only the first 2 lines were lifted ..rest all were original ..In that way ,every composer has done that ...


Let us his last 5-6 released

1.ALbum - Exteremly bad movie ,but atleast it had 4 very good songs .

2.3 roses - Totally useless movie ,KR was cheated ( not paid ) - Yet KR did deliver good songs if not great

3.Ragasiyamai - ANother useless ,floppy movie but he did deliver tow very good melodies .

4.SIngara chennai - I never knew this movie was released - The project budget was less than crore for ur informatioN !! Still 2 songs were good .
5.Kudaikkul Mazhai - Very good story ,but it flopped .KR delivered 3 good songs and 2 amazing instrumentals and avery powerful BGMs with small Live orchestara

6.Neranja Manasu - Story is goo d,but crappy execution . KR did deliver 4 clean melodies .

Not many people know that he has done come work in Virumaandi too !!

Let us wait for sakkari ,Karuppan - by Susi Ganesan

His next movie in the line is "Right a Thappa ' Starring Ramana ,Uma ( Thendral Heroine ) and directed by Bhuvana

[Lillie_Steins]

manasukkulle thaagam vanthuchchaa and ovvoru pookkalumae are good songs.
Even in ayya, aththiri baththiri kaththirikaai, oru vaarththai solla kaathirunthen and suththi poada vendamaa are good
Vijay TV thiraivimarsanathil thamizh manam maaramal Bharadwaj isaiamaithullar endraargal. He is neither best nor worst even though he recycles his songs.

[Drugmachine]

"Veesum katrukum - only the first 2 lines were lifted ..rest all were original ..In that way ,every composer has done that ... "

Mumbai Ramki, even Deva lifts only the first 1 or 2 lines
The point is KR has very few or no songs that can be called great and original at the same time. A few good songs-but no great ones. His Grahan was good and kehte hain Jisko/Veesum kaatrukku come close to being called great. (KavidhaigaL sollava by SPB was also more than just good). I listened to his recent albums and wasnt impressed by any song in particular. Even "Album" wasnt all that fresh - he has more than a generous dose of IR hangover in his tunes and orchestration. Worse, he has started singing. I wish he stops it soon. As for his collaboration with IR he did some good work in Siraichaalai and earlier movies but might be responsible for a lot of synth-intrusion in an otherwise good IR composition in the mid-90s. Movies like Chandralekha, Paattu paadava etc. have an uncharacteristically heavy synth usage which might be KR's handiwork.

[Lt_Apple]

Alright Vijay, I realize the message in my first posting was a bit unclear. What I meant to say is, I validate you for speaking your mind, even if everyone else is praising one artist, album or song just because everybody else is doing so. I don't mean that the songs in 'Julie Ganapathy' are bad. And btw, I didn't know that this was a flop in terms of audio sales. I just remember you saying that you felt the songs were primitive by Ilayaraja standards. I'm just reminding you of how you don't just praise an album or song just because of its hype. Am I making any sense?


NagaS, if you genuinely like the songs of 'Julie Ganapathy,' there's no harm in that as far as I can see.


Regards,
Nitya

[TorryJens]

I disagree with this thread totally!
Anybody who is neutral who happens to read this thread would easily come to a conclusion that this is nothing but a bunch of armchair critics who are shocked that what they put down as a dud being so successful.
My questions are:
1. There are hundreds of movies which are so commercially successful in spite of not being different or special from an artistic point of view. We do not see a thread being opened for these movies. So only reason why Cheran or Bala have to be bashed by disgruntled ManiRatnam fans (IMO) is simply that they are successful. So....
2. Do we need this thread to continue anymore ?????