[softy54534]

I think, and after months can safety conclude this. Its beef with PAP is national, its beef with WP is personal.

[Slonopotam845]

I think, and after months can safety conclude this. Its beef with PAP is national, its beef with WP is personal.

Temasek Times is by that certain Dr from old Wayang Party blog, so no surprise there of the personal attacks against WP.

[tgs]

So what is his alignment? It's rather unusual for someone to say, I support the opposition and hate the PAP, but when it comes to WP, I will bring up the PAP. Which will cost the opposition but with the WP possibly be the least affected.

Personal disdain is often harder to control than national interest.

A lot of people also confuse their interest in the nation with national interest.

[Peptobismol]

I thought Temasek times belongs Kojacbt aka Mr.Richard wan?

[Beerinkol]

I thought Temasek times belongs Kojacbt aka Mr.Richard wan?

Whoever it is behind is not important. It has an interesting and unique partisan stand, so I don't for one moment think Temasek Times is a blog for alternative views as it claims.

I see similar mindsets with them and Goh Meng Seng. The streak in them puts them at odds with PAP, however finding themselves the leaders of change, they are rather envious of the position WP is now especially when WP does not do something they want to be done. They are hardly envious with the PAP as they don't think PAP is well liked. That is why I say to them PAP tugs at their country-loving emotion, WP tugs at their personal-belief emotion.

TT is more unique in that it goes one up to endorse PAP over WP when it comes to the two.

[Peptobismol]

I thought Temasek times belongs Kojacbt aka Mr.Richard wan?

Best explained with..

http://www.tremeritus.com/2012/08/20...emasek-review/

TTR only links articles from TT

[NeroASERCH]

I thought Temasek times belongs Kojacbt aka Mr.Richard wan?

No Bro, Richard Wan aka Kojakbt is now running TRE. That PRC whore-loving Dr JO left TR and set up TT. Personally, I think TRE under Richard Wan is better under the JO.

[softy54534]

No Bro, Richard Wan aka Kojakbt is now running TRE. That PRC whore-loving Dr JO left TR and set up TT. Personally, I think TRE under Richard Wan is better under the JO.

Agree. I see that TRE lifts extracts from all sites (eg Yee's article), rather than omitting those they don't like and then turn to accuse them of being quiet.

[9mm_fan]

Came across the following comments and Temasek Times blundered here.

We trust WP said
September 1, 2012 at 8:44 pm
WP had brought up issues about employees and workers every year but every year PAP gives same answer with PAP statistics and the cycle repeats.
Did not PAP rebuff idea of Minimum Wage every year when WP brought it up ?
WP did bring up issues about workers but Media never broadcast it. Go WP FB and WP website to read up. If you never read, how you know WP never bring up?

(Temasek Times) Mod’s note: It’s not the quantity but the quality of opposition MPs which matter. When WP has only one MP in the past, its apologists said they can’t do anything. Now with 8 MPs in parliament, have they been speaking up more? Still as timid and quiet like a church mouse, so what makes you think having another 10 or 20 more WP MPs will make a difference? The ‘wayang’ will continue as usual. WP is the PAP’s last line of defence in the event of a freak election. That’s why the ‘Wayang Party’ has been keeping quiet to avoid antagonizing its political masters.
‘If the PAP fails to win a majority in the next GE, the Workers Party will form a coalition govt with it (to keep it in power).”
- PAP’s ‘B’ team MP Pritam Singh, May 2011

Notice what is wrong with TT's reply. Despite having brought up many issues, WP has never been the forefront of minimum wage, much less bring up the issue every year. I have heard about minimum wage from SDP and RP more than WP. This WP supporter has made the mistake that TT could gun for easily.

Yet in TT's reply, he did not realize this and rebut this point. Instead they sidestepped the comment with their usual template replies. Looking carefully, this website is trying to send and plant subliminal messages into readers heads. To keep repeating simple statements like "WP = PAP". "WP = quiet". "Vote WP = Vote PAP". Clearly it is psychology they are using here.

Pritam has also never made that statement that TT quoted.

[LottiFurmann]

Its by Dr JO? That explains the ever present soft-porn pix on that shitty site

[Fegasderty]

What is the nature of JO's beef with WP?

[tgs]

Every political association tries to publish their own articles about their own parties, either hardware (newspaper) or software (online media).

If they have beef against PAP or WP, assuming they are from SDP, SPP, NSP or whatever association they are from, (which I'm not really sure, somebody please enlighten me with regards to this point) so be it. They can publish whatever they want.

There's no hard written rule which states they should only bash PAP and not other political parties. So what's the big issue here?

[HedgeYourBets]

There's no hard written rule which states they should only bash PAP and not other political parties. So what's the big issue here?

If you are asking me, I would say it's Temasek Time's unusual partisanship that caught my intrigue. Support for someone or something is usually defined and clear, and not relative. Eg I love soccer and think captain's ball is a stupid game. But the reason for liking soccer is not because I hate captain's ball. If soccer was never invented, I would still hate captain's ball and have other choices like basketball, baseball etc. If I do not support the PAP, there is no instance where I will be caught supporting it when I see something worse (eg WP). I would just dislike both.

It is also a known human trait to find the fault if it gives problems. You don't replace your steering wheel when your seat belt gives problem. In this case, for something PAP does, Temasek Times while not blaming PAP for the deed, blames WP for not doing anything about the deed. Then I think if PAP disappears tommorrow, will Temasek's dislike for WP disappear?

[Drugmachine]

Big issue is that whoever is behind Temasek Times and The Temasek Times (Facebook) seems untrustworthy.

Especially with TTR (FB), with its maintenance that Richard Wan is its owner, it is the legimate site and that TRE is illegitimate, deleting comments and blocking people trying to clarify that TTR (FB) is not TRE..

TTR (FB) with its 56k "likes" base versus TRE (FB) with its 3.7k "likes" base.

Personal Opinion: People behind Temasek Times seems like a bunch of school kids, i.e. they somehow seem to bash sensitive issues too easily without much critical thinking, lack of critical analysis. TRE & TOC are definately much better reads that TT..