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Old 09-21-2012, 10:29 PM   #21
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you do not have to be in thailand to be charged more than a thai....im a farang my wife is thai.....when we went to the thai temple near us on a sunday morning to
bai tom boon....after i looked around and saw someone selling thai music cds....i walked over myself and asked the price 15 dollars...sent my wife over herself and guess what down to 10 dollars...
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:47 PM   #22
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How about 3 prices...Thai, Farang that live/speak thai/ and just plain dump farang!
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Old 09-22-2012, 12:10 AM   #23
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I have never noticed dual pricing...
I am neither complaining about nor defending dual pricing, merely giving an example.

Safari World in Bangkok adult ticket for a Thai 390 Baht:-


Safari World in Bangkok adult ticket for a Farang 700 Baht:-


I will add that our taxi driver was allowed in for free and therefore on average for the three of us we paid less than the Thai price.

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Old 09-22-2012, 12:45 AM   #24
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You hit the nail on the head rcalamaio! I would just like to add that in the markets, you may well get the better price without the sneer!

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Old 09-22-2012, 01:31 AM   #25
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I agree with atalderic. To me, dual-pricing at cultural places like museums, old temples and ruins, are simply a form of subsidy, that allows Thai people to afford to visit, while simultaneously generating the needed revenue for things like maintenance, renovation etc. I am always mildly amused when people make such a big deal of this. I am by no means wealthy (probably one of the poorest Americans to ever visit Thailand, 555!), but I have never considered the price of admission to pose a financial hardship to me.
My question those who so principally oppose this policy is this: Should they raise the prices for Thais (possibly "pricing them out") or lower it for foreigners (possibly hurting quality of the place)?
As for paying too much in the markets... All I can say is learn to speak a little Thai, and get used to bargaining. Thai people can get ripped off too! Also, this happens everywhere in the world where prices are not clearly posted.

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Old 09-22-2012, 02:04 AM   #26
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The same type of thing happened to my boyfriend- he visits Thailand quite often since he moved to America a couple years ago, and one trip him and his friends (not all of them were Thai) went shopping. When they were buying something, the seller and his coworker were discussing together in Thai how much they should charge him for the item (since him and a his friends obviously looked a little different from the other 20-something yr olds there)...after a minute my boyfriend got kind of impatient and just came out as politely as possible in Thai, something to the extent of "I know what you are saying- I do understand Thai".
They ended up giving him the Thai price....


visionchaser makes a great point- they may see it as a tourist being able to afford the higher price...but I can see how that would anger a Thai person visiting their own country, despite the kind of crowd they bring with them.
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Old 09-22-2012, 03:21 AM   #27
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Default Two Prices: (1) for Thai's (1) for Farangs??
In reply to "The Right to Choose" on www.thai-blogs.com

Hold the chicken pot pie folks!

JUST MY OPINION folks, so please if you're gona throw something at me, throw sticky rice and som tom with a T-Bone! (all this talk is making me hungry).

First off I'm %100 Thai. Funny thing is most Thai people irritated the crud outta-me! Why? I have my reasons, yet after reading Richard's blog that's just more fuel for the fire.

Ok, here's my niave question, "Why would a 'developing nation' have 2 prices depending on your nationality?" Hopefully, it isn't supported by the Thai government...Isn't this like the "white" and a "black" water fountains of old?

Picture this.....I'm Thai...I look Thai....I'm visiting Thailand with my American Readneck 'Farang' wife. I point to the sign "100 Baht" (without opening my mouth, cuz that would give me away). I get into the kick-boxing match. My wife without saying a word is directed to another sign, "200 baht". Well, that's an insult to me and to my wife.

Don't get me wrong, cuz price gouging based on the color of your skin happens all over the place right??????????? What? The further your away from being a natural Thai the more you have to shuck out for goods and services? Come-on folks, this is the 21st Century!!!!

Ok, I've said enough for now. Nonetheless, I respect their way of life.....and "NO" to the Right to Choose bologna - there should be (1) price.
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Old 09-22-2012, 03:51 AM   #28
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i am not completly against dual prices. It work too in Russia where i have noticed that foreigners pay 5 or 10 more their museum tickets for example.

i think it is not a bad idea for dual prices into areas who promote culture or leisure. Citizens should access to their culture easier and foreigners with a better buy power by paying more, finance the culture budget

About shop goods, it's the law of ask and offer. Sure that foreigners need to have a better skill of negociation but you are free to go to another shop

In which other fields dual prices do exist in Thailand? As my knowledge in Thailand are weak, i have never noticed others kind of dual prices. Does a foreigner will have to pay a different price for the buy of a car for example or if a price is fixed by the governement?
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Old 09-22-2012, 04:22 AM   #29
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They have stopped duel pricing in China now. The don't have duel pricing in Australia, because discrimination is against the law, and if some one took legal action against you, it could mean closing down your business, if a class action of litigation occurred, it could in other words financially cripple the business.
This is the 21st century, Thailand needs to move forward with the times as it is not a 3rd world country any more, Thailand should be setting an example, not setting a disgraceful discriminative practice, or it will become boycotted by tourists and by first world Governments.
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Old 09-22-2012, 06:58 AM   #30
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As long as the smile of the thais will be gratis, even for farangs, it will be a pleasure to spend my money in Thailand.

Here, in south of France, farang or not you pay double price and smile is not include.
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Old 09-22-2012, 07:11 AM   #31
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(without opening my mouth, cuz that would give me away) This is the important point. Although you are racially Thai, given your parentage, unless you hold a Thai passport, the exception does not apply to you. Hence your comment about keeping your mouth shut. Most farang are guests in the kingdom, no matter how long they stay. If a farang has applied for and received Thai nationality, the exception would apply and he or she would pay the Thai price. Other than some surface judgments made on the part of those collecting the money, race really doesn't play a major part in the decision. Such assumptions are no different than assuming every old farang with a Thai wife is married to a former bar girl, or that a man with an earring must be gay. Sometimes these assumptions are true, and sometimes they are not. The point is that Thailand makes money from tourism, and the idea is that tourists can afford it if they want the experience.
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Old 09-22-2012, 07:43 AM   #32
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Altaderic, that was a cool one!

Lets take the case of bargaining. Even though in markets its not controlled by policy most vendors on seeing a farang would seek a higher price first as compared to what they may ask a local. Would one need to get angry with them? I don't think so. We all agree that it is the right for every business man to make money - if he can. We may even respect them. No?

Now, if the cost to the farang people is really high and not affordable - the first nation that would be hurt is Thailand. I am not sure its still the case yet? And if it is than surely farangs will begin to walk away.

I am not sure how important is the revenue from this dual pricing. But suppose it was removed the authorities maybe forced to increase price on the local people too to achieve targetted revenues for maintenance etc.? And maybe considering the earnings of the local people that may not be justified?

Is their any official explanation by Thai authorities on this subject?

Also what happens if a local person is with you. And buys the tickets at local price for a foreigner. Would that ticket be valid?
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Old 09-22-2012, 08:17 AM   #33
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I got irritated when I had to stand up during the "Kings song" at the movies Standing up for HM's anthem is a way of showing respect. HM is the beloved king of all Thais and is the uniting force among the people. If you have respect for the monarchy, you will be treated with respect in return.
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