[hereiamguy]

i do not agree with you, in the way of Thai people are useally more poor than australian, and tourism make them live. everywhere there is tourism, prices are increased. I live in france, and when you go in the south, near monaco, you can see english, or american people rent appartment 20 times the price it cost, and this is the same for every little things.

[skydaypat]

"skinflint" is that English, never herd of that word before but this acquaintance of yours sounds like quite a cool dood.
I'm quite stingy, and I encourage every one to be the same. I'm very proud of my stingy status and is the very reason, as how I managed to be comfortably semi-retired by the age of 33. But what I'm not is a sponge, I always pay my own way.
The people you should be avoiding are not the skinflints and stingy people, but the people who miss manage there money, gamble or just plain sponge off there fellow humans for money.

[ChrisGoldstein]

He made $3,000 net a month and my net was $12,000, but he asked to go with me, and being a male and me being straight, I thought he should pay his own way, Now if he would have been female or if I had been queer then it might have made the difference.

You seem to be awfully hung up on the Discrimination issue,,do you by any chance happen to be Black?? or Gay?? or any other minority?? I have never known a straight, white male to be so hung up on that issue.

But then I have never known anyone that was as blatantly cheap/stingy as you, and anyone that is supposed to be so wealthy that does not proof his posts before posting them for misprints, typos and misspellings as you.

Are you sure that you are not just a poor sheep Herder that is in a serious relationship with one of his charges??

[ChrisGoldstein]

Paul, I do not agree with you either,, I have never saw dual pricing here in Thailand.
If I go into a place and have a drink and a Thai comes in and has the same drink as I, then he pays the same price that I do.
The prices in Pattaya or other places that thrive on tourist trade are more expensive than say a saloon is here upcountry where we have no tourists.
But the place is a few home made tables and a thatch roof and a very cheap beer cooler and a dirt floor, Were it in a tourist area it would be a regular building with tile floors, a nice bar, maybe aircon and a good sound system, a dozen girls and everything would be more costly to maintain and build, so the prices are more, but Thai and Farang will pay the same prices.
In some markets or shops you might be charged a tad more than a Thai, but that is the owner and has nothing to do with the govt.
A taxi driver might want more to haul a bunch of drunk farang and I can't blame him as it is worth something to put up with them, and if they do not want to pay, then they do not have to take that cab.

But then you might notice things that I don't as you do appear to be somewhat of a skinflint, I know a guy in California that sounds just like you and I always try to avoid him at every opportunity, if you would like some stories about him, just ask.

[skydaypat]

Australia signed a free trade agreement with Thailand recently, was there a small clause in the fine print, allowing an exception. If you have a duel pricing policy in the tourist trade, that in fact voids the free trade agreement, if it is truly free, maybe the Australian and Thai governments have not noticed. I think I people should send an Email to the Australian minister for trade, that Thailand is not keeping up with there side of the bargain. Australian's should pay the same price as Thai's in the free trade agreement. Free trade is an economic tern that, does not allow, tariffs or Taxes to stifle competition. Duel pricing is in fact a tariff, put on by the government in the case of the Grand Palace and by business owners in the case of private enterprise.
The Australian Government should put pressure on the Thai Government to stop this discriminating practice of duel pricing, as it potentially has legal implication with the free trade agreement.

[exschke]

oh my God. Paul, stop whining about the same two topics all over and over and over again, and get a life, man! if you really do have all that money, then go somewhere, visit a fair and just country where you get the same price as locals (no matter if it's overall triple than what you would pay in Thailand), switch off your computer, and be happy that you have found a nice place with nice and fair people and nice prices.
or is it easier to go on whining like an offended three-year-old, rather than do something meaningful or at least enjoyable?
sorry man, I really pity you, I honestly do.

[skydaypat]

Equal rights is about equal choice, People who don't want equal rights, don't want the freedom of choice or want to control either way.
I want the choice to chose not to pay, and not to be discriminated because of it.
If you don't want choice in life, it is because you have been brainwashed from a child not to want freedom.
put a bird in a cage from a baby, and leave it there for a few years, it will come back to that cage even if let out, it has to brainwashed to not know what freedom is. A wild bird will never except that cage.
I'm like the wild bird, I believe in freedom and choice.
People who don't believe in freedom and choice either have been brain washed or are on a power trip, who want to control and manipulate other people
Men who want to pay, do so to control and manipulate woman, It's just a power trip.
Men who don't like my liberal idea's should be happy, because with my power I can quite easily take there woman off them if I want.
Well being a millionaire makes me more powerful than most, owning my own twin engine aircraft, multimillion dollar home and expensive cars, means I can pull most woman, with ease.
But buying a woman will never get me respect, it will just be a piece of property.
Do you really think, the measly cost of a meal in an eatery, would affect my budget so that I would notice it.
It not the cost of the eatery bill that concerns me, it is the disrespect of some one wanting me for money, and not for what they should want you for in the modern age, you companionship.
Do you really think I want a woman who has been brainwashed from birth not to believe in freedom and wants to be dominated by a man.
You think I'm going to get a liberated woman, if I pay for her. Well your right I would, because I got the power, of a jet setting life style.

[ChrisGoldstein]

Betti, he must live in the land down under,,and if that is so,,why does he worry about us and what we do here and how much we spend,
I lived up in CM til I got married and moved down here, I lived out close to San Sai tho and not right in CM, but did go to town often to AA meetings at Mac cormick hospital.
Wonder why buying a woman a dinner is discrimination??

[skydaypat]

Paul, I do not agree with you either,, I have never saw dual pricing here in Thailand.
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Well try coming to Australia, go to Taronga Park Zoo in Sydney where I live, it is owned and by the NSW Australian Tax payer and is one of Sydneys big tourist attractions, the cost I will convert to baht, 900 baht for an adult ticket, 630 baht for some one over 60 years old, 490 baht for children. This Zoo is internationally recognized as one of the best in the world second only to Santiago zoo, with magnificent views over Sydney Harbor and the Opera House. This zoo does not run at a profit, because it is there not just for public entertainment but to help preserve many of the worlds endangered species. Now possibly it could run at a profit if they decided to charge rich Japanese tourist double the price, but because they having a none discrimination policy in Australia, that would be illegal, instead I pay money from my Taxes to subsidize this magnificent zoo. I don't mind subsidizing the zoo, and I don't mind rich Japanese tourists getting a subsidize entry fee, because at least the poor people of Australia can enjoy a wonderful experience.
What I do mind, is going into the Crocodile farm (zoo) in Samut Prakan and paying 300 baht, and the Thai people just paying 70 baht.

[ChrisGoldstein]

WOW, that IGNORE works great, now I don't have to look at anything that MUTTONPUNCHER posts.

[skydaypat]

Wonder why buying a woman a dinner is discrimination??

It is not discrimination, if the woman you are going out with, would do the same for you.
It becomes discrimination, when a woman has the attitude, it is the man who should ask her out and pay for her on the first date. As a general rule, when woman ask a female friend out for lunch they will share the cost, but with a man they will have a tendency to sponge.
Like I say, woman asked for equal rights, not men. You cannot continue to sat I only want equal rights only when it suits your self.
Woman now earn equal pay to a man, if they chose the same career as a man and have the same amount of experience. If a woman earns similar or in 44% of cases, earns more than the average man, she can take equal financial responsibility, after all you did not like paying for your motorcycle club acquaintance, maybe you should have, he may have been on a lower income than you. I feel the same way as you but with, woman who can afford to pay try to do the same thing and sponge off me, just because she puts her self on a pedestal and thinks she is to good to pay. I don't discriminate against a man or woman, If a woman try's sponging off me on a first date, she will have one guarantee, I will not go out with her again, and I will not pay more than my share and if she came in my car I will not be taking her home.

[CorpoRasion]

Dear Paul,

Why do you not open up a blog on your subjects. And link it in your signature? I am not saying what you say is wrong. But the repitition can make people numb & fatigued. Not everyone has the energy to take up all issues in life. Everyone has their own hot issues, some warm and many cold. If everyone picked up their strong issues they carry and kept colouring every post with that view point we would practically have a difficult time discussing reasonably. Of course there is a degree of execution in everything and that is where we need a tacit agreement and that is how people discuss for long enough & suddenly start seeing each others view points. But rarely it happens by pushing the thoughts hard on to the other?

Just my view for you.

[skydaypat]

You seem to be awfully hung up on the Discrimination You may have to pay to get a woman, but I don't.
Not every one in this world is a chauvinist and wants to pay for woman, some men actually want respect from woman. I don't think sponging of some one man or woman is showing respect and if a woman is sponging of you that is disrespect.
I'm not put on this earth to be discriminated or exploited, just because I was born a white heterosexual male.
It's the 21st century, woman got there financial independence over a generation ago, and as far as I'm concerned they can stop sponging off men and start pulling there own weight, when it comes to financial matters. I don't mind a stingy woman, but I do mind woman who can afford to pay, start sponging just because there woman and they think it is there right to exploit men for financial gain.
I'm not a hypocrite like some woman who want equal rights, who only want equal rights when it is to there advantage , but I don't want it when it does not suit them. I'm quite capable of pulling men's equal rights to my disadvantage as I'm not a hypocrite, I'm willing to do my share of the house hold chores, looking after the children. I don't mind staying at home and playing social tennis, while my wife goes to work in a monotonous drudgery, to brink hone an income, that sounds great to me.

[euylvaygdq]

The world is so unjust, isn't it Paul? I think you should be elected king of the world so you can put things right. What a glorious world is would be, full of stingy people who turn every social transaction into a monetary one, who never commit to another person in marriage, who never have children...oh, wait, that means it would all be over after one generation. Nevermind.

BTW Skinflint is an American colloquialism that means cheapskate or thightwad. However, "dood" has never been a word, as far as I know.

[skydaypat]

oh my God. Paul, stop whining

Some one who obviously supports discrimination
So do you think blacks should still be slaves as well.
I am appalled by all forms of discrimination.

[ChrisGoldstein]

well I think I will see what happens when I put you on IGNORE as I just can't stand anymore of your BS, just getting to deep for me plus I think you are a phony.BYEEEEE

[ChrisGoldstein]

I believe that sites that are owned and supported by taxes should be able to charge non tax paying customers an extra charge.
It happens in the USA, if you want to use a state park campground or even some day areas and you are not a tax payer of that state then you pay an extra charge.
The national parks are govt owned and foreigners should pay to use them and americans that want to use them have a permit buying sched.

My wife and I were going to a zoo here and an elephant camp and they were going to charge me an extra fee, I showed them my Thai drivers license and was not charged extra.

Yea the "friend" I was talking about will just not spend money,,he went with me at his request from sacramento Cal. to portland Ore. and we went into a resturant and he said you buy this one and I will get the next,,OK so I ordered a Buffalo steak, he said "I'll have the same" then about 1800 he asked if I was ready to eat,"sure anytime" so he has me stop at a 7-11 and he goes in, buys a pack of balogna, a loaf of bread, a squeeze bottle of mustard and 2 cans of coke.
He pulled that one about 2 years before and I had forgotten about it. We were on a trip to an anniversary run of a motorcycle club I belonged to and he wanted to go and he pulled that, and then when we filled with gas he had me pay and he would pay next stop, we were both riding 80 inch HDs. So about 2200 we stopped for gas again and he knew that I carried cards and it was exact cash or C card after 2100 and he popped a $100 bill on the guy for $15 worth of gas,,so I had to use a card. but I have learned since then, and if I saw him in BKK I would run the other way.