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Old 10-21-2005, 08:00 AM   #1
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ah ok I see

Yes that's right I tried to hold back the less often..2-3 weeks ago I always holded back too much my attacks...

Actually, it's been only 2-3 practices i'm back to this suicidal kendo and I enjoy it a lot for the moment. I had such a fun fight today against my sensei.

happy kendo!
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Old 11-07-2005, 08:00 AM   #2
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You shouldn't. Team Canada is very strong, placed third in the last WKC.
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Old 11-10-2005, 08:00 AM   #3
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Why, to rule the world of course!
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Old 11-12-2005, 08:00 AM   #4
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Kendokamax:
I think Kuri and the others have made some salient points in response to your posts. It's certainly food for thought, so I have some questions for you.

When doing 'crazy kendo', how often do you throw yourself onto your opponent's shinai because you had no seme and he held centre?

How often when you are jumping around does someone hit you with a debana technique, or some other effective shikake waza?

How do you see the overall quality of your kendo compared with when you were practising straight cuts and economy of movement?

Are you not concerned that the bad habits you are getting into now will detract from your kendo, rather than add to it?


When I see someone doing this sort of kendo, I am filled with an overwhelming urge to take them apart piece by piece to show them just how ineffective it really is. I don't always do it - but if I feel they might learn something, they get a smackdown.

Hey, where did this soapbox come from?

Anyway, erm. . .my goals in kendo:
Short term:
*Make the Australian team headed for Glasgow next year
*Earn my 4Dan

I have goals that I try and achieve at every training, sometimes I do, sometimes not. IMNSHO - the most important thing about goals is a) to make sure they are clear and specific, b) to make sure that they are beneficial to what you are trying to achieve overal.

Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect.
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Old 11-19-2005, 08:00 AM   #5
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I've tried to be definite here, to challenge myself.

1. To get to Kendo every week, regardless of work (difficult)
2. To be an asset to my club
3. To always improve (even if only a tiny bit)
4. To be honest about my shortcomings
5. To help and inspire others in their Kendo
6. To gain focus and mushin

And longer term

7. To make it to "an experienced grade"
8. To land a cut on my sensei without him letting me



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Old 12-11-2005, 08:00 AM   #6
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Sutemi means 'to go for broke' or 'to risk everything', in the sense of not holding anything back. It can also mean suicidal, but with a purpose. 'Crash-or-crash-through', maybe. And in a sense I suppose it can imply throwing away what you've learned (in a positive sense), which seems to be what you're doing...

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Old 12-17-2005, 08:00 AM   #7
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hmmm when I say I want to do sloppy kendo right now, the reason is: later on I will not have the physical ability to do so. It's not really sloppy but just stupid kendo. Here in north america people only have 1 or 2 step in their kendo life. They start old so they will never try to do stupid techniques and will go straight in doing straight and "pure" kendo. I think when you are young it is a waste of time to do this kind of pure kendo! When you look at the evolution of kendo from someone from japan, these guys have the chance to make more steps in their personal evolution. In high school they jump like crazy (almost no seme at all) it's just about hiting and speed, in university it gets a bit more straight etc.....


The only thing i want is to have fun using crazy techniques (useless movements) for the time i still can do them. That way later on I will be able to know more of what bad habbits i have to throw off of my kendo and the ones that I must carry on (which i will later on also throw off). For me It's like a try and error thing...


I have a lot of time ahead.
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Old 12-22-2005, 08:00 AM   #8
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Originally posted by ben
Good points Ares.

One thought though. Maybe Kendokamax is trying to put more sutemi into his kendo. [snippage] This is always a danger when you train with people equal or lower than you in skill/experiecne, or become overly familiar with a small number of people's keiko (a problem most of us gaijin-kendoka face). re sutemi, Very possibly. I wondered about that myself. The small dojo numbers thing can potentially really stifle your progression, especially at the earlier stages, so in that sense, mixing it up is good.
In Japan, most sho/chu gakkou kendo students training seems to consist of about 90% uchikomi/kakari geiko, which doesn't call for the degree of seme that keiko can do, so perhaps in a sense, perhaps kendokamax is trying to get that sort of feel from his training, my concern was more about the formation of bad habits that may accompany this sort of training. I wouldn't wish ingrained kendo bad habits on anyone. . .well not too many people anyway.


BTWIMHO there's no such thing as perfection through practice. There's just practice.
^_^

b I was talking more about goals n stuff
There's the unending pursuit of perfection, not necessarily the attainment of it. The day I do the perfect men cut is the day I stop doing kendo.
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Old 12-28-2005, 08:00 AM   #9
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argh.

Confound what are you talking about....
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Old 01-01-2006, 08:00 AM   #10
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My medium term goal is to get back to Japan sometime in the next 2-3 years and make my first (hopefully successful) attempt at 5 dan. It's a bit of a daunting step because I would be by far the least experienced (in terms of years of training) 5 dan in the country. So in doing so I would have to face a lot of personal demons about feeling worthy of the grade. But then, I've got my goal, the rest, I suppose, is part of the journey.

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Old 01-12-2006, 08:00 AM   #11
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yes guys must at least be second dan and 19 years old to try out for team canada.

and women has to be at least first dan and 18 years old.

I think the qualification are low because there isn't that many young people with high grades in canada. So they give the chances to more people to participate in the selections. But even if the qualification is low, not everyone with second dan and up tries out.
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Old 01-18-2006, 08:00 AM   #12
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My goal as a new kendo player and a female, is to one day be on the women's Team Canada, and maybe someday, do Nito Ryu as one of the the only woman in the world to do it.
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Old 01-20-2006, 08:00 AM   #13
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Confound,
Your last post was hilarious. I'll let Max respond to this but I know our entire dojo is going to get a kick out of this. You simply have no idea what you're talking about. I'll go into detail if Max lets me because I really want to say something but can't just now.
I'm still laughing.
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Old 02-02-2006, 08:00 AM   #14
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So begins this Clone/Flame War, hmmnn.

*sits back, popcorn ready, watches events unfold*
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Old 02-08-2006, 08:00 AM   #15
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I still have a looooong way before i can participate in world champ:P (first must get 2dan, but before that must get 1stdan! )

I would really like to go watch thought!
world championship in 2006 will be held where?? in asia?
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Old 02-14-2006, 08:00 AM   #16
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maybe chanbara might be more his thing.
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Old 02-25-2006, 08:00 AM   #17
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Yes I agree, I'm pretty sure it would improve faster if I would put my energy into doing "pure kendo". But to tell you the truth I find it personaly boring to do that kind of kendo right now. I really want to make different steps in my kendo "career".

I think my kendo will eventualy mature when I will see by myself by experimenting that I'm doing the wrong things.

However, I just want to point out, even if I'm saying I want to use crazy techniques , i am a strong believer that having a good foward men uchi helps a lot in kendo. Since most of the other techniques use the same motion (of going foward lool).

...

hm also not too long ago I was actually doing a more straight kind of kendo. It was more clear and of less useless movements, more slow paced. I was winning most of my matches and shiai. But the problem is that I became lazy and wasn't attacking as much anymore. I was also getting scared of getting ippon from someone and was caring too much about ippon during jikeiko. I felt I couldn't improve by being that way and holding back and not attacking during jikeiko (I was pissed at myself!). That's why now i'm saying I want to do a more active and agressive kendo, a kendo without as much preparation (seme) but just keep hiting the targets when they are slighty open. A little like kakari keiko. So one of the reason why I don't want to do "pure kendo" yet, is because when I do it I care too much about ippon. When you go fast and do techniques that are not always ippon "giver" you don't have time to care as much about scoring or geting 1 ippon against you.

That's the way I see that I can improve my kendo for now.

Still straight and pure kendo will always be 100% more efficient in shiai.

Maybe I'm doing it all wrong lol
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Old 03-22-2006, 08:00 AM   #18
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Good points Ares.

One thought though. Maybe Kendokamax is trying to put more sutemi into his kendo. It is possible to do this and not lose all "purity". I sense that may be why he became unsatisfied at his complacency. This is always a danger when you train with people equal or lower than you in skill/experiecne, or become overly familiar with a small number of people's keiko (a problem most of us gaijin-kendoka face). His way of expressing it in words is maybe what made it sound like a backwards step.

BTWIMHO there's no such thing as perfection through practice. There's just practice.

^_^

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Old 04-09-2006, 08:00 AM   #19
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ah I don't have a computer anymore now so I have been away for a while now....anyway

Counfound

Why do you practice kendo? Why couldn't I enjoy training the way I feel is the best way for me to do so. Why do I have to mimic old nanadan sensei and become like them when i'm only 21 years old!! It's nothing wrong to try to do a kendo like a nanadan but I don't want to do that, i'm not 60 years old yet! I have still 40 years to go into improving/changing my kendo. That kendo comes with experience and with wisdom that I don't have and don't believe I can or want to have just yet!

I think it's totaly wrong to supress too much the youth in our kendo. As Kuri was saying do you think there is only one way to do kendo? sigh...

Not even I elvolve as a person/kendoka but even kendo does!
Did you know that kendo has elvolved a lot since 40-50 years?
You know masahiro miyazaki champion of zennihon for a couple of time? well his kendo is a bit different from the classical kendo.
He uses his right hand to get a little bit more range and get over the men and shinai of his opponent (just to hit with the tips of the shinai). This week our sensei introduced/explained us to the way that miyazaki does his men-uchi. I was very impress to see that our sensei could accept that new way of doing men uchi. What I mean is if you are too close minded to see that there is more than 1 good way to do and enjoy kendo... well go back to playing ping pong.


As for saying that I will never get pass shodan...

I'm aware that in grade exams you have to show and big waza with strong seme. So i'm going to do that and I'm not going to do my crazy kendo at the exam. That "crazy" kendo, I do it only in my dojo with my friends. Also as I said before it's a way for me to improve myself and enjoy my kendo. In life there is time to be serious and time to be stupid, same goes for me in kendo.



maybe chanbara might be more his thing. This piss me off, what do you know? Kendo is, trust me.
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Old 04-16-2006, 08:00 AM   #20
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Oh man, oh man, oh man this is killing me....I want to sink my teeth into your post Confound and show how you got it all, and I do mean ALL, wrong but I can't do it just yet or maybe ever. I say this without malice by the way, you just really got it wrong about Max's kendo. Sorry if there are no fireworks KhawMengLee ... may I call you Khaw, or Meng, or Lee, or anything easier to type... without being disrespectfull).
I want to flamme but cannot. This is tough. Must...find..inner...discipline.
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