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**mirvokrug** · 03-17-2006, 10:23 AM

Anybody else see the new Jet Li movie? I believe that it is based around the actual life of a celebrated chinese kung-fu master who ended up actually fighting against english boxers, spanish swordsman, and even Japanese samurai and beating them. This is rumored to be Jet Li's final period movie and although it doesn't IMHO match his greatest movie "Fist of Legend", it is well made and a must watch for all fans of the genre.

No word yet on a US release, but you can pick it up on BT. Can't wait for the US release so I can add it to the collection.

**pongeystrhjst** · 03-17-2006, 10:43 AM

OH yes, big jet li fan...and especially fist of legend..have never heard of the movie you are talking bout, but i assume that it's because it hasn't been released here yet..but oh now i'm excited...last kung fu movie i watched and liked was Kung Fu Hustle..let me know when it does hit the US and also..what's BT?

**strmini** · 03-17-2006, 10:52 AM

From what I've read, Fearless should be released in the US later this year. I loved Hero, and though I think this one will be a different type of movie, I'm looking forward to it.

**WUlcN1Rz** · 03-17-2006, 11:03 AM

"although it doesn't IMHO match his greatest movie "Fist of Legend", it is well made and a must watch for all fans of the genre."

An interesting thing I heard was that in Fearless he plays the poisoned master of his character in Fist of Legend. (I think that's true)
Anyone know when it'll be released in Britain?

**hopertveyk** · 03-17-2006, 11:26 AM

"although it doesn't IMHO match his greatest movie "Fist of Legend", it is well made and a must watch for all fans of the genre."

An interesting thing I heard was that in Fearless he plays the poisoned master of his character in Fist of Legend. (I think that's true)
Anyone know when it'll be released in Britain?

NO that should be Bruce Lee's sifu who got poisoned in "Fist of Fury".

But then the Japanese weren't the Kidou-ryu Jujitsu gang on reverse hakama as in the 1972 movie... In this 2006 version Jet Li was against a mad guy from Kukishin-ryu (which is also a real multi-discipline ryuha)...

The movie was release during Chinese New Year (late Jan 06) in Hong Kong, and the DVD has been released since earlier this month.

People who use BT to download movies has no shame whatsoever...

**SeLvesTr** · 03-17-2006, 12:28 PM

I admit to using BT but i also buy the DVD when it's released. I have a curious nature and if it's available to me now, I just can't wait. For you to be saying that I have no shame whatsoever...I won't argue the point and assume that you have never downloaded anything off the internet and every file of music, image, program, or video on your computer was all purchased legally and you have receipts and hard copies of everying.

Aside from the whole piracy issue, Fearless is a great film. Download it now and watch it or wait until it's released to buy/rent it.

**Suentiend** · 03-17-2006, 12:30 PM

mmm I haven't heard of this new movie yet. Is it another Wong Fei Hung movie or something? It sounds like it the way you guys described it.

**wallyfindme** · 03-17-2006, 01:07 PM

"NO that should be Bruce Lee's sifu who got poisoned in "Fist of Fury"."

Jet Li starred in the remake of that film. (In my opinion about a million time better than the original.)

**cliceperperIa** · 03-17-2006, 01:37 PM

Here you can find few words about the Fearless:

http://www.lovehkfilm.com/reviews_2/fearless.htm

cheers,

**esconsise** · 03-17-2006, 01:49 PM

Aside from the whole piracy issue, Fearless is a great film. Download it now and watch it or wait until it's released to buy/rent it.

errmm you can get it now if you want.

Finally, an old fashion Chinese Kung Fu movie. Not the Hero and House of Flying Dagger craps - don't argue with my personal taste, both of them put me to sleep... especially the fight scenes.

P.S. - Thanks lemi

**DoctoNilsonDen** · 03-17-2006, 02:03 PM

"Finally, an old fashion Chinese Kung Fu movie. Not the Hero and House of Flying Dagger craps"

Ironic that wuxia films are actually the "old fashioned" kung fu films. Not anything against you, just something I've picked up on alot. Every so often I hear about people wanting "back to basics" MA films, which ironically means more chi wizards not fewer.

**Mister.levitra** · 03-17-2006, 02:22 PM

"Finally, an old fashion Chinese Kung Fu movie. Not the Hero and House of Flying Dagger craps"

Ironic that wuxia films are actually the "old fashioned" kung fu films. Not anything against you, just something I've picked up on alot. Every so often I hear about people wanting "back to basics" MA films, which ironically means more chi wizards not fewer.

I can't believe an European is telling a Chinese that the Chinese don't know what an old fashion Chinese Kung Fu is, lol You have no idea when I said "old fashion". I grew up with this stuff, Hero and House of Flying Daggers are not old fashion Chinese kung fu stuff - in a matter of fact, the style was more modern and some call it "art" and I agree with it. Therefore, it is not an old fashion kung fu wuxia film. A good old fashion chinese kung fu movie that you're calling wuxia films will make me want more, not make me want to sleep.

**gamecasta** · 03-17-2006, 02:36 PM

errmm you can get it now if you want.

Finally, an old fashion Chinese Kung Fu movie. Not the Hero and House of Flying Dagger craps - don't argue with my personal taste, both of them put me to sleep... especially the fight scenes.

P.S. - Thanks lemi

You can buy it right now it's true, but this version does not have english subtitles. Since I can't speak nor read either mandarin or cantonese, I'm going to wait for the US release.

**Fdmnrnba** · 03-17-2006, 02:42 PM

You're 24, I guess you grew up in the golden age of kung fu films, the 80s...
Anyway as I said it wasn't directed at you. What I'm saying is that the original MA films, and we're talking 1920s-30s silent films here, were wuxia pien films. Chi wizards galore!

**Cajlwdvx** · 03-17-2006, 02:43 PM

"Finally, an old fashion Chinese Kung Fu movie. Not the Hero and House of Flying Dagger craps"

Ironic that wuxia films are actually the "old fashioned" kung fu films. Not anything against you, just something I've picked up on alot. Every so often I hear about people wanting "back to basics" MA films, which ironically means more chi wizards not fewer.

Actually, old school wuxia movies involved wire work so movies like CTHD and HoFD are basically old school and there isn't anything new or revolutionary about them. They're just shot on better film with better CGI scenes in the latter.

Bruce Lee actually hated this sort of film and he wanted to move away from wires and special effects and show "real" martial arts. Unfortunately after his death, realistic martial arts movies from Hong Kong almost dissapeared until "fist of legend". Fearless is more "reality" based and although I can't say if there was any wire work involved in the shooting, everything seems to be focused on showing as much realism as possible. Well...one guy taking on a group w/o getting hit is a bit unrealistic, but you get the gist of what i'm saying.

**Pedsshuth** · 03-17-2006, 02:47 PM

..what's BT?

Bit Torrent. Piracy.

**Super-Luser** · 03-17-2006, 02:59 PM

You're 24, I guess you grew up in the golden age of kung fu films, the 80s...
Anyway as I said it wasn't directed at you. What I'm saying is that the original MA films, and we're talking 1920s-30s silent films here, were wuxia pien films. Chi wizards galore!

My post wasn't directed at you either, I said "an European" didn't say you

I should've just said Westerners then Paikea and my college instructor Mikey will kill me, heheh

Oh, and I also watched a lot of stuff before I was born thanks to my parents who are still addicted to those stuff, lol And Paikea totally gets the old fashion Chinese movie that I'm talking about

gotta run!

**Deseassaugs** · 03-18-2006, 05:57 AM

Oops, I just realized I credited the wrong person. It was supposed to be Ganryu

But yeah, Perry knows, too, hehehe

**dyestymum** · 03-18-2006, 08:47 AM

"Bruce Lee actually hated this sort of film and he wanted to move away from wires and special effects and show "real" martial arts."

I always found this odd, As far as I can tell Wuxia even when they were novels were not about realistic MA, I've often heard them called historical fantasy. Charges of a lack of realsim seem similiar to calling Starwars unrealistic.

"Oh, and I also watched a lot of stuff before I was born thanks to my parents who are still addicted to those stuff, lol And Paikea totally gets the old fashion Chinese movie that I'm talking about"

I know I was just kidding with the 80s commment.

What kind of films do you mean, titles?

**tuszit** · 03-18-2006, 09:04 AM

My post wasn't directed at you either, I said "an European" didn't say you I should've just said Westerners then Paikea and my college instructor Mikey will kill me, heheh

Oh, and I also watched a lot of stuff before I was born thanks to my parents who are still addicted to those stuff, lol And Paikea totally gets the old fashion Chinese movie that I'm talking about

gotta run!

What did I "get"? Aparrently I'm quicker than I think I am...

03-17-2006, 10:23 AM	#1
mirvokrug Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 436 Senior Member	Fearless Anybody else see the new Jet Li movie? I believe that it is based around the actual life of a celebrated chinese kung-fu master who ended up actually fighting against english boxers, spanish swordsman, and even Japanese samurai and beating them. This is rumored to be Jet Li's final period movie and although it doesn't IMHO match his greatest movie "Fist of Legend", it is well made and a must watch for all fans of the genre. No word yet on a US release, but you can pick it up on BT. Can't wait for the US release so I can add it to the collection. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-17-2006, 10:43 AM	#2
pongeystrhjst Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 718 Senior Member	OH yes, big jet li fan...and especially fist of legend..have never heard of the movie you are talking bout, but i assume that it's because it hasn't been released here yet..but oh now i'm excited...last kung fu movie i watched and liked was Kung Fu Hustle..let me know when it does hit the US and also..what's BT? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-17-2006, 10:52 AM	#3
strmini Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 459 Senior Member	From what I've read, Fearless should be released in the US later this year. I loved Hero, and though I think this one will be a different type of movie, I'm looking forward to it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-17-2006, 11:03 AM	#4
WUlcN1Rz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 488 Senior Member	"although it doesn't IMHO match his greatest movie "Fist of Legend", it is well made and a must watch for all fans of the genre." An interesting thing I heard was that in Fearless he plays the poisoned master of his character in Fist of Legend. (I think that's true) Anyone know when it'll be released in Britain? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-17-2006, 11:26 AM	#5
hopertveyk Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 406 Senior Member	"although it doesn't IMHO match his greatest movie "Fist of Legend", it is well made and a must watch for all fans of the genre." An interesting thing I heard was that in Fearless he plays the poisoned master of his character in Fist of Legend. (I think that's true) Anyone know when it'll be released in Britain? NO that should be Bruce Lee's sifu who got poisoned in "Fist of Fury". But then the Japanese weren't the Kidou-ryu Jujitsu gang on reverse hakama as in the 1972 movie... In this 2006 version Jet Li was against a mad guy from Kukishin-ryu (which is also a real multi-discipline ryuha)... The movie was release during Chinese New Year (late Jan 06) in Hong Kong, and the DVD has been released since earlier this month. People who use BT to download movies has no shame whatsoever... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-17-2006, 12:28 PM	#6
SeLvesTr Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 410 Senior Member	I admit to using BT but i also buy the DVD when it's released. I have a curious nature and if it's available to me now, I just can't wait. For you to be saying that I have no shame whatsoever...I won't argue the point and assume that you have never downloaded anything off the internet and every file of music, image, program, or video on your computer was all purchased legally and you have receipts and hard copies of everying. Aside from the whole piracy issue, Fearless is a great film. Download it now and watch it or wait until it's released to buy/rent it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-17-2006, 12:30 PM	#7
Suentiend Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 516 Senior Member	mmm I haven't heard of this new movie yet. Is it another Wong Fei Hung movie or something? It sounds like it the way you guys described it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-17-2006, 01:07 PM	#8
wallyfindme Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 609 Senior Member	"NO that should be Bruce Lee's sifu who got poisoned in "Fist of Fury"." Jet Li starred in the remake of that film. (In my opinion about a million time better than the original.) Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-17-2006, 01:37 PM	#9
cliceperperIa Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 403 Senior Member	Here you can find few words about the Fearless: http://www.lovehkfilm.com/reviews_2/fearless.htm cheers, Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-17-2006, 01:49 PM	#10
esconsise Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 498 Senior Member	Aside from the whole piracy issue, Fearless is a great film. Download it now and watch it or wait until it's released to buy/rent it. errmm you can get it now if you want. Finally, an old fashion Chinese Kung Fu movie. Not the Hero and House of Flying Dagger craps - don't argue with my personal taste, both of them put me to sleep... especially the fight scenes. P.S. - Thanks lemi Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-17-2006, 02:03 PM	#11
DoctoNilsonDen Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 418 Senior Member	"Finally, an old fashion Chinese Kung Fu movie. Not the Hero and House of Flying Dagger craps" Ironic that wuxia films are actually the "old fashioned" kung fu films. Not anything against you, just something I've picked up on alot. Every so often I hear about people wanting "back to basics" MA films, which ironically means more chi wizards not fewer. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-17-2006, 02:22 PM	#12
Mister.levitra Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 493 Senior Member	"Finally, an old fashion Chinese Kung Fu movie. Not the Hero and House of Flying Dagger craps" Ironic that wuxia films are actually the "old fashioned" kung fu films. Not anything against you, just something I've picked up on alot. Every so often I hear about people wanting "back to basics" MA films, which ironically means more chi wizards not fewer. I can't believe an European is telling a Chinese that the Chinese don't know what an old fashion Chinese Kung Fu is, lol You have no idea when I said "old fashion". I grew up with this stuff, Hero and House of Flying Daggers are not old fashion Chinese kung fu stuff - in a matter of fact, the style was more modern and some call it "art" and I agree with it. Therefore, it is not an old fashion kung fu wuxia film. A good old fashion chinese kung fu movie that you're calling wuxia films will make me want more, not make me want to sleep. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-17-2006, 02:36 PM	#13
gamecasta Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 538 Senior Member	errmm you can get it now if you want. Finally, an old fashion Chinese Kung Fu movie. Not the Hero and House of Flying Dagger craps - don't argue with my personal taste, both of them put me to sleep... especially the fight scenes. P.S. - Thanks lemi You can buy it right now it's true, but this version does not have english subtitles. Since I can't speak nor read either mandarin or cantonese, I'm going to wait for the US release. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-17-2006, 02:42 PM	#14
Fdmnrnba Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 478 Senior Member	You're 24, I guess you grew up in the golden age of kung fu films, the 80s... Anyway as I said it wasn't directed at you. What I'm saying is that the original MA films, and we're talking 1920s-30s silent films here, were wuxia pien films. Chi wizards galore! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-17-2006, 02:43 PM	#15
Cajlwdvx Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 654 Senior Member	"Finally, an old fashion Chinese Kung Fu movie. Not the Hero and House of Flying Dagger craps" Ironic that wuxia films are actually the "old fashioned" kung fu films. Not anything against you, just something I've picked up on alot. Every so often I hear about people wanting "back to basics" MA films, which ironically means more chi wizards not fewer. Actually, old school wuxia movies involved wire work so movies like CTHD and HoFD are basically old school and there isn't anything new or revolutionary about them. They're just shot on better film with better CGI scenes in the latter. Bruce Lee actually hated this sort of film and he wanted to move away from wires and special effects and show "real" martial arts. Unfortunately after his death, realistic martial arts movies from Hong Kong almost dissapeared until "fist of legend". Fearless is more "reality" based and although I can't say if there was any wire work involved in the shooting, everything seems to be focused on showing as much realism as possible. Well...one guy taking on a group w/o getting hit is a bit unrealistic, but you get the gist of what i'm saying. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Pedsshuth Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 457 Senior Member	..what's BT? Bit Torrent. Piracy. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Super-Luser Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 561 Senior Member	You're 24, I guess you grew up in the golden age of kung fu films, the 80s... Anyway as I said it wasn't directed at you. What I'm saying is that the original MA films, and we're talking 1920s-30s silent films here, were wuxia pien films. Chi wizards galore! My post wasn't directed at you either, I said "an European" didn't say you I should've just said Westerners then Paikea and my college instructor Mikey will kill me, heheh Oh, and I also watched a lot of stuff before I was born thanks to my parents who are still addicted to those stuff, lol And Paikea totally gets the old fashion Chinese movie that I'm talking about gotta run! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-18-2006, 05:57 AM	#18
Deseassaugs Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 457 Senior Member	Oops, I just realized I credited the wrong person. It was supposed to be Ganryu But yeah, Perry knows, too, hehehe Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-18-2006, 08:47 AM	#19
dyestymum Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 419 Senior Member	"Bruce Lee actually hated this sort of film and he wanted to move away from wires and special effects and show "real" martial arts." I always found this odd, As far as I can tell Wuxia even when they were novels were not about realistic MA, I've often heard them called historical fantasy. Charges of a lack of realsim seem similiar to calling Starwars unrealistic. "Oh, and I also watched a lot of stuff before I was born thanks to my parents who are still addicted to those stuff, lol And Paikea totally gets the old fashion Chinese movie that I'm talking about" I know I was just kidding with the 80s commment. What kind of films do you mean, titles? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-18-2006, 09:04 AM	#20
tuszit Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 473 Senior Member	My post wasn't directed at you either, I said "an European" didn't say you I should've just said Westerners then Paikea and my college instructor Mikey will kill me, heheh Oh, and I also watched a lot of stuff before I was born thanks to my parents who are still addicted to those stuff, lol And Paikea totally gets the old fashion Chinese movie that I'm talking about gotta run! What did I "get"? Aparrently I'm quicker than I think I am... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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