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Missing Canadian boys safe as pedophile surrenders Wed Aug 2, 6:50 PM ET



TORONTO (Reuters) - The family of a 10-year-old Canadian boy alleged to have been abducted by a convicted pedophile said on Wednesday he will recover from the ordeal that ended with the suspected kidnapper's surrender.

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"He is a very strong boy and he will get better," Zachary Miller's father Lyle told an emotional news conference in Broadview, Saskatchewan, a day after the boy escaped at an abandoned farm in the western Canadian province.

Suspected kidnapper Peter Whitmore, 35, was scheduled to appear in court on Thursday, but police have not said what charges will be filed against him.

Whitmore gave himself up late on Tuesday after a nine-hour standoff at the farm near Kipling, Saskatchewan, where he was hiding from a large manhunt with Miller and a 14-year-old boy from Winnipeg, Manitoba.

"My son has done everything I knew he would to get away," Lyle Miller said, wiping away tears.

The second boy, Jordan Bruyere, was also released safely.

Police launched a national manhunt after Miller was reported missing on Sunday and authorities realized Whitmore was a suspect in the case. Media reports indicate Bruyere may have been with Whitmore for several days longer.

Whitmore has served numerous prison sentences and been rearrested within weeks of his release on several occasions, either for new offenses or for violating terms of his release. The case prompted widespread concern that Canada's sentencing laws were not tough enough.

"There has to be a better way of ensuring that repeat sexual offenders who are plainly incurable and utterly incapable of controlling their violent impulses do not roam the country freely," the Globe and Mail newspaper said in an editorial.

"It should be possible to have sexual predators declared a threat to society without having to wait for them to commit more than one or two heinous crimes."

Whitmore's own lawyer has said Whitmore responds to tough controls, but the authorities erred in not renewing restrictions on his movements.
The last statement by his lawyer just left me lost for words...basically it says, oh, my client obeys the law when its enforced...its not his fault he did what he did...its the government's fault for not keeping tabs on him.

Pedo's should be shot.

[TimoDass]

"There has to be a better way of ensuring that repeat sexual offenders who are plainly incurable and utterly incapable of controlling their violent impulses do not roam the country freely"

Fully!

[trettegeani]

Yeah...its called 7.62mm Full Metal Jacket.

Gary Glitter should've got some of that treatment in vietnam...actually, no Cambodia...no, wait...England...the guy has gotten away fro too long ler.

[deandrecooke]

The last statement by his lawyer just left me lost for words...basically it says, oh, my client obeys the law when its enforced...its not his fault he did what he did...its the government's fault for not keeping tabs on him.

Pedo's should be shot.

Don't shoot 'em. Put 'em in jail, gen.pop, with a big sign that say's "I like to f*#k children". Give 'em a taste of their own medicine!!!

[Civilrecordzz]

Don't shoot 'em. Put 'em in jail, gen.pop, with a big sign that say's "I like to f*#k children". Give 'em a taste of their own medicine!!!

I think they did that in Casuarina Prison in Perth to David Birnie. David and his sicko wife abducted young girls and women for him to rape and then murdered them. When he was sent to prison.. the guvner 'accidentally' let him into the local prison community where he got his balls clapped between two bricks.

He hung himself last year.

[inmeirulez]

yeah, so its EVERYONES fault that we couldent tell the "man next door" was a (sexual offender?, sorry i dident feel like reading the whole thing)

[Ruiptuptubre]

Pedo's should be shot.

I'd like to expand that to rapists in general. All those in favor say 'Aye'.

[apatteopipt]

Don't shoot 'em. Put 'em in jail, gen.pop, with a big sign that say's "I like to f*#k children". Give 'em a taste of their own medicine!!!

hehe, both shooting and allowing him to get assraped in prison are "inhumane." But it was "inhumane" for him to rape/kill people.

if it was up too me, ide kill everyone who killed someone innocent, the same way. and if they raped someone, ide stick a rattail file up there ass, rip off there ..... "ya know what" and then kill them, the same way they killed someone else

[v74ClzKY]

I'd like to expand that to rapists in general. All those in favor say 'Aye'.

How many times does it happen that a girl screams she's raped while it wasn't rape?

I think that's just as bad to be honest but in those cases.

There was a Dutch soccer player who had this going on he had to sit in jail for 2 weeks while he was innocent. It's that he was mentally strong enough that he got past this all but something like this can really ruin someone.
It was Robin van Persie one of the Dutch National Team players.

[foonlesse]

I think innocent men are victimised because the truth is that there ARE men out there who are sexual predators and the truth of the matter is that there are more men out there who rape women, than women who 'cry wolf'. Of course I think it's very wrong to frame somebody for a crime, but especially a sex crime.

The truth of it is that because women have always been regarded as the 'weaker' gender, society usually sides with them.

[Broorbbub]

Uh-oh. I await Runsyi's reply. I predict 5 pages.


*brings popcorn and soft drink*

[Vemnagelignc]

I think innocent men are victimised because the truth is that there ARE men out there who are sexual predators and the truth of the matter is that there are more men out there who rape women, than women who 'cry wolf'. Of course I think it's very wrong to frame somebody for a crime, but especially a sex crime.

The truth of it is that because women have always been regarded as the 'weaker' gender, society usually sides with them.

The big problem is getting the right middle ground. Get the wrong man and the whole "Van Persie" arguement comes up, an innocent man framed for a terrible crime, stuck with a reputation and thrown in prison. But if on the other hand its a "don't bin them until its proved" thing, then you might have a potential rapist running around continuing what hes doing while people look for conclusive proof to stick him away.

Its no easy thing, but at the moment, the safest option by far is to stick them away until its proved they DIDN'T do it. That doesn't help any falsely accused poor sod who gets framed though.

[medshop]

I think they did that in Casuarina Prison in Perth to David Birnie. David and his sicko wife abducted young girls and women for him to rape and then murdered them. When he was sent to prison.. the guvner 'accidentally' let him into the local prison community where he got his balls clapped between two bricks.

He hung himself last year.

Now that's poetic justice!!!!!!

[TaliaJack]

Yeah...its called 7.62mm Full Metal Jacket.

Gary Glitter should've got some of that treatment in vietnam...actually, no Cambodia...no, wait...England...the guy has gotten away fro too long ler.

why waste good bullet on pedos? 6" cold steel.. better yet.. dull spoon would do. remember recycle, reuse, and reduce or something like that.

pete

[BalaGire]

Stuff like this really rile me up. I hate pedos, and rapists in general. Me and my mates were having a discussion about this, well, something similar. It was about that "Megan's Law" (UK verison "Sarah's Law") For anyone unfamiliar with this, its basically a law that people want where the government allow controlled access to the Sex Offenders Register so parents with young children can see if a child sex offender is living in their area.

Now some of my mates were saying that this is wrong because...

1. It is a violaton of human rights to have to live with the sort of terror and general humilation that they would recieve from people in their area who knew that they were on the list

2. They would be less likely to get jobs and accomedation and all that if people knew of them being on "the list" because of the sterotyping and prejudice that comes with it

3. People who commit minor offences are put on the same list as those who commit a serious offence. EXAMPLE- you can get put on the sex offenders list for peeing in public, or flashing your arse at someone because its indecent exposure. So you would be on the sex offenders list for flashing someone, your name perhaps right under the name of that man who had kiddnapped and raped a young boy and was caught with over 100 child porn images at his home...

...and there was a load of other random bullshit excuses as to why this law should not be put into place.

I personally think that:

1. Screw the pedos human rights. They lost any human rights that they had as soon as they took away the human rights of the child by doing whatever it is that they did

2. I wouldn't want a drug abuser working/living with me. I wouldn't want a political extremist working/living with me. I wouldn't want a theif working/living with me. I wouldn't want a child abuser working/living with me. Yup its sterotyping.

3. Granted, I accept that as a reason not to put this law into place. Just because I flash my bum at some poor innocent passerby when I am drunk, that doesn't put me in even the same league as a pedo...

As a highly maternal person with a lot of young children in my family, I would want to know who the pedos in my area were so that I can protect my children.

But hey, screw the law. I agree with KhawMengLee. They should just be shot. Then they would be no need for any law. I know, the death sentance doesnt give the criminal a chance to reform, we shouldn't play the role of God, yaddi yaddi ya, but hey. Shoot the bast***s.

I not not really "for" or "against" much in many popular arugements. Am pretty easy going, however this one is one of the very few things that I am passionate about. I truly actually believe that they should be shot.

Man I can't believe how much I have written!

Sexual predators never reform. Look at Gary Glitter, he was busted in the UK for child porn. He went to cambodia and was expelled for suspision of child sex crimes. Finally, he was convicted in Vietnam for that exactly.

If you cruise through www.crimelibrary.com you'll see tons of these sicko's and how they 'escaped' the system.

[DoctorAlexandro]

Sexual predators never reform. Look at Gary Glitter, he was busted in the UK for child porn. He went to cambodia and was expelled for suspision of child sex crimes. Finally, he was convicted in Vietnam for that exactly.

If you cruise through www.crimelibrary.com you'll see tons of these sicko's and how they 'escaped' the system.

Never reform, I'm not so sure...there has to be ONE person out there who changed. That doesn't take away from the fact that they did it though...but I agree with you in the respect that a lot of them do not reform. Most crimes I hear of that are committed by people who were in jail a short period before is theft or molestation/rape. The latter more than the former.

[TughEmotteTug]

the truth of the matter is that there are more men out there who rape women, than women who 'cry wolf'.

I don't know about that, one of my ex-girlfriends claimed she's been raped, but she couldn't keep her story straight, it was different every time she talked about it, which eventaully got to be pretty much every time she wanted an excuse for something. An ex-girlfriend of a good friend of mine tried to isolate him from all his buddies by claiming that pretty much everybody he knew had tried to rape her at one time or another, including one when the alleged attacker was in another state, I think I was the second or third she accused. He didn't really believe her the first time, by the 5th or 6th unlikely or impossible alleged attack he was pretty much ignoring it. Another friend served on a jury where they concluded the sex was consensual, until she started feeling guilty about it, at which point the woman cried rape. Based on my experience, it's not nearly are rare as you seem to think.

[Lotyqnag]

Uh-oh. I await Runsyi's reply. I predict 5 pages.


*brings popcorn and soft drink*

Getting back at me for all the Gibbo jokes, eh? Are you starting to feel guilty about it? Wanna cry wolf?

In all seriousness, I believe that the legal system is the best option we have so far. There is a lot of "the criminals have more rights" shit going on but isn't that better than a "Minority Report" society where we lock people up because of what they may do?

And yes, I realize that the judical process is screwed up at times, but when everyone involved--judge, jury, laywers--are human what do you expect? There is no guaranteed system that will punish the guilty and protect the innocent 100% of the time. You don't like it? Get involved and shape the laws, organize a victim's rights group, make sure your children are well-educated and watch them so they don't end up a victim.

[nasdfrdg]

In all seriousness, I believe that the legal system is the best option we have so far. There is a lot of "the criminals have more rights" shit going on but isn't that better than a "Minority Report" society where we lock people up because of what they may do?

And yes, I realize that the judical process is screwed up at times, but when everyone involved--judge, jury, laywers--are human what do you expect? There is no guaranteed system that will punish the guilty and protect the innocent 100% of the time. You don't like it? Get involved and shape the laws, organize a victim's rights group, make sure your children are well-educated and watch them so they don't end up a victim.

100% agree.
I tell people that when the police kick their door in in the middle of the night and drag them and their loved ones out into the street at gunpoint, maybe they should call a plumber or one of the guys that say "kill them all and let god sort it out"
Oh wait, too late for that when you are the one they are "sorting out".

[eljugadordepoquer]

Get involved and shape the laws, organize a victim's rights group, make sure your children are well-educated and watch them so they don't end up a victim.

I did jury duty last week. Earned my $11.60 to convict a homeless guy of 2nd-degree trespass. Felt bad about doing it, but jeeze, the guy used the "no trespassing" sign as a decoration in his hut and it's hard to say he didn't know it was illegal to be there then.

At least, I made the rest of the jury talk about it for half an hour and feel bad about doing it too...