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Old 07-28-2006, 11:12 AM   #1
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So lately I've been running into a money problem, and everyone knows I attend a kumdo dojang. I'm serious enough to pay the ridiculous $80 a month fee. Like I said though, I've ran into a money problem and don't know if I can pay that much every month. I know that Torrance Dojo is pretty close by, and their fee is only $15 a month (I think). Here is the problem though! Would my rank transfer to this dojo? I've gotten a shodan in USKU dojo (waiting for teh certification to come), and I'm wondering if they would recognize this. Will I be forced to start from the beginning? How are the classes like in the dojo? Thanks for any help in advance.
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Old 07-28-2006, 11:18 AM   #2
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Who gives a doodey about rank? If you wanna get some practise in and can afford one but not the other, your rank won't make a blind bit of difference. And unless its a McDojo or you come across as a liar or an arse, no-one will ask for "credentials" anyway.

Tally ho!
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Old 07-28-2006, 11:20 AM   #3
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Hmm... In my opinion if you chance from kumdo dojo to another kumdo dojo your rank should remain the same. If you would move to a another country where standards are totally different then maybe...

But you can always show them your certification when you get it.
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Old 07-28-2006, 11:22 AM   #4
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What's the USKU? Is it any different from the AUSKF?
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Old 07-28-2006, 11:25 AM   #5
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And unless its a McDojo or you come across as a liar or an arse, no-one will ask for "credentials" anyway.
Until it's time to test for nidan within the AUSKF, that is.
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Old 07-28-2006, 11:35 AM   #6
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Who gives a doodey about rank? If you wanna get some practise in and can afford one but not the other, your rank won't make a blind bit of difference. And unless its a McDojo or you come across as a liar or an arse, no-one will ask for "credentials" anyway.

Tally ho!
BEcause there is classes for different ranks. Like beginner, 4kyu+, shodan+. I think if I want to get better, I should practice with people better than I am. The Torrance dojo tests like every year. If I start from 9kyu again, it'll take me 3~5 years before I can practice and compete with shodan. Get it? I cant get better if I just keiko and shiai with people who haven't done kendo for a long time. I have to lose and get my ass kicked to learn.
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Old 07-28-2006, 11:49 AM   #7
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Maybe you should just pay them a visit and explain these issues with the instructor(s). Maybe they can give you a little test to see what class they want to put you in. You are already at a certain level. They can see that (if they are any good). So they can give you a "rank" they think suits you. Who knows, they might put you in the more advanced group at once, or the might keep you in the beginner group for a few weeks/months to see if you can handle yourself before placing you in the more advanced group. Never hurts to ask them these questions, your questions sound logical.

Just ask.
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Old 07-28-2006, 01:40 PM   #8
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i think it would be pretty obvious if you have a shodan, the teacher would have to be blind.
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Old 07-28-2006, 02:03 PM   #9
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BEcause there is classes for different ranks. Like beginner, 4kyu+, shodan+. I think if I want to get better, I should practice with people better than I am. The Torrance dojo tests like every year. If I start from 9kyu again, it'll take me 3~5 years before I can practice and compete with shodan. Get it? I cant get better if I just keiko and shiai with people who haven't done kendo for a long time. I have to lose and get my ass kicked to learn.
It isn't usual for shodan to take so long.
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Old 07-28-2006, 02:10 PM   #10
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i think it would be pretty obvious if you have a shodan, the teacher would have to be blind.
Why's that?
It isn't usual for shodan to take so long. My friend that attends this dojo said that it would take that long.
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Old 07-28-2006, 02:36 PM   #11
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a sensei should be able to differentiate shodan level kendo from a beginner, even if the senseis opinion is his kendo is at ikkyu level instead of shodan, someone with a shodan should be able to set themselves apart from beginners with relative ease, IMHO
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Old 07-28-2006, 02:43 PM   #12
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a sensei should be able to differentiate shodan level kendo from a beginner, even if the senseis opinion is his kendo is at ikkyu level instead of shodan, someone with a shodan should be able to set themselves apart from beginners with relative ease, IMHO
Sorry, I misunderstood/misread what you said.
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Old 07-28-2006, 04:46 PM   #13
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good freaking lord, why do you people talk about shit you know nothing about?

look man, sckf wont take your kumdo rank. Depending on what yang or yuge sensei say, they may let you test for the same rank come october or septemeber(whenever we have our grading).

have fun at torrance, they have alot of strong kenshi.
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Old 07-28-2006, 09:24 PM   #14
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Introduce yourself. Practice with heart. Take the next shinsa. Continue on.
What matter is your kumdo rank?
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Old 07-28-2006, 09:47 PM   #15
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Introduce yourself. Practice with heart. Take the next shinsa. Continue on.
What matter is your kumdo rank?
Like I said, so I can practice with the advanced classes.
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:04 PM   #16
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80 dollars is ridiculous? I pay 130!

But i guess 80 compared to 15 is quite a big difference. I wish I had it so easy.
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:04 PM   #17
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Well, I'm not exactly sure how Kumdo ranks work, but I believe that under IKF regulations, once you reach Ikkyu and above, your rank is officially recorded, and you'll be recognized at any Dojo that is affiliated with them of being that rank. Ranks below Ikkyu are awarded at the Dojo level, and it's up to each individual Sensei to decide which kyu rank there student deserves at each shinsa.

Of coarse, I haven't even done one shinsa yet, and I'm basing this on information that I've gathered from various sources.
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Old 07-29-2006, 04:53 AM   #18
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Let me get this right: You have the chance to practice in Torrance? With Chris Yang? The same dojo where the ladies korean team-captain in 2000 Songyi Choi also practices?
THAT Torrance dojo? And you are pondering about it?
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Old 07-29-2006, 05:33 AM   #19
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From my understanding, AUSKF only recognize KKA (Korea Kumdo Association). or other IKF affiliates.
What is USKU?
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Old 07-29-2006, 06:04 AM   #20
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BEcause there is classes for different ranks. Like beginner, 4kyu+, shodan+. I think if I want to get better, I should practice with people better than I am. The Torrance dojo tests like every year. If I start from 9kyu again, it'll take me 3~5 years before I can practice and compete with shodan. Get it? I cant get better if I just keiko and shiai with people who haven't done kendo for a long time. I have to lose and get my ass kicked to learn.
i agree with the others, just go to this new dojo and explain things to them, and if they still put you in the absolute beginner class, be respectful and go to that class and show your best kendo. if you truly possess elevated skill (and it should be obvious compared to complete newbies) they will see that and place you in a more advanced group.

as far as you wanting to train with shodans and above to get better, i understand how you feel. i have gone from a very small dojo where everyone (every rank, sensei included) practices together to a larger dojo where the sensei usually just leads by command and many of the students are below shodan. i do miss getting the crap kicked out of me by my old teacher, but i think it's hard to learn that way because his strikes were so fast i could never figure out how he hit me. it's also harder to build confidence(something i believe is very important in kendo) when you're constantly getting beaten effortlessly and you can barely get in a good hit of your own. just try this new approach for a while, you never know the best way you'll learn unless you try different methods.

good luck!!!
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