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Old 07-22-2006, 01:51 PM   #1
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I've been taking Kendo since March and I'm thinking of taking some kind of hand to hand martial art in the Fall in addition to Kendo. My worry, however, is I play guitar and I've heard that its common to break or injure fingers in Karate, so I'm considering Judo or Aikido, does anyone know what the threat to one's hands is like in these martial arts?
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Old 07-22-2006, 02:34 PM   #2
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in judo theres probably more risk of finger damage as its a grappling art/sport.
as for aikido, long term it will weaken your wrists.
but theres risk of injury in any art, including kendo. iai is perhaps the best for reducing risk of damage.
dont let it put you off though. injuries and accidents do happen but not like every week.
good luck in your search. it might be best to go and watch a few different ones to find out what club and art are best for you.
alternatively http://www.fudebakudo.com/cgi-bin/mentor.pl may help you
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Old 07-22-2006, 02:40 PM   #3
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Personally, I think Aikido is a great companion to Kendo. We have several members that practice both and they love it. The same people also practice Iaido.
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Old 07-22-2006, 07:11 PM   #4
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have considered the same, i've wanted to maybe join the judo club here on campus, but as a previous broken finger kept me outta bogu for 2 weeks i've been a little hesitant (and the fact that the judo-sensei got 2 ribs broken in a urimake (sp?)
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Old 07-22-2006, 07:29 PM   #5
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I do Kumdo and I've also done Hapkido most of my life. I also play guitar ( more power to ya ^_^). But i've never found a hand to hand MA to hinder my guitar playing, Honestly I've seen more finger injuries in basketball than I have in Karate.
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Old 07-22-2006, 10:46 PM   #6
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I have to be especially careful because teaching guitar is my career. Also the reason I was considering judo is because I'm looking for a martial art I can take for a couple of quarters and get a fundamental knowledge of self-defense. I'm not really looking for a hand to hand art that will be a life long pursuit like Kendo.
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Old 07-22-2006, 11:03 PM   #7
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I've been taking Kendo since March and I'm thinking of taking some kind of hand to hand martial art in the Fall in addition to Kendo.
I realize this is somewhat rhetorical, but why not just do more kendo?
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Old 07-22-2006, 11:13 PM   #8
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Well, I'm already going to all of the practices my dojo offers. I'm not advanced enough yet to be visiting other dojos and I'm not sure I'd want to do that on a regular basis anyway.
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Old 07-22-2006, 11:14 PM   #9
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I realize this is somewhat rhetorical, but why not just do more kendo?
because kendo wouldnt help him much if he were attacked on the street.
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Old 07-22-2006, 11:29 PM   #10
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in judo theres probably more risk of finger damage as its a grappling art/sport.
as for aikido, long term it will weaken your wrists.
but theres risk of injury in any art, including kendo. iai is perhaps the best for reducing risk of damage.
dont let it put you off though. injuries and accidents do happen but not like every week.
good luck in your search. it might be best to go and watch a few different ones to find out what club and art are best for you.
alternatively http://www.fudebakudo.com/cgi-bin/mentor.pl may help you
I got kendo.... Now I'll never know what OTHER style I should take!
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Old 07-23-2006, 02:38 AM   #11
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I have to be especially careful because teaching guitar is my career. Also the reason I was considering judo is because I'm looking for a martial art I can take for a couple of quarters and get a fundamental knowledge of self-defense. I'm not really looking for a hand to hand art that will be a life long pursuit like Kendo.
So you want a martial that you can learn fast, it has to be useful "on the street" and you cannot get your fingers injured?

Sorry, but judo isn't really your thing then. It takes some time to learn (not an art that you can learn in a year) and it puts huge strain on your fingers (as mentioned before). It's fun to do though. Loads of grappling and sparring. I know what I'm talking about, I've done it for years and I still know several judoka.

Aikido won't hurt your fingers a lot, but it takes ages before it becomes remotely useful in combat. It takes years to understand the fundamentals, so not a thing for you. Unless you don’t care about the usefulness and you want to train aikido. The great thing about aikido is that (almost) every one can do it, old, young, stiff, flexible, etc. It also has a great link to swordsmanship (most styles, not all do aikiken).

Don't know much about jujutsu. Loads of different styles. Very aggressive, effective, and it doesn't take ages to learn the basics. Maybe one of our jujutsu practitioners on this board can tell us more about it. Jujutsu and kendo isn't an uncommon combo.

If you don't mind getting hurt, maybe Muay Thai or kickboxing (big difference between the 2) could be a thing for you. You wear gloves, so most of the time your fingers will be protected. There will be some strain on them, but not much. The fundamentals are relatively easy to learn and it can be applied for self-defence within a year. You will get injured though. Although I'm a real beginner, I haven't met a single Muay Thai fighter with some kind of injury (some light, some pretty bad).

Maybe look for an other armed art (iaido or jodo perhaps or maybe kyudo or naginata-do?). Loads of kendoka do a second armed art.

That's all I can think of at the moment, good luck on your search.
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Old 07-23-2006, 02:44 AM   #12
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because kendo wouldnt help him much if he were attacked on the street.
You can't kill a man with your kiai? What kind of kendoka are you?
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Old 07-23-2006, 02:59 AM   #13
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^lol

Well, I don't think you're going to find what your looking for. Any form of unarmed martial art is going to put your hands at risk. Hell, your chances of not getting them hurt in armed MA is debatable. In this case, I think your best bet would be a stun gun or something, since you want to learn these for self defence.
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Old 07-23-2006, 08:21 AM   #14
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^lol

Well, I don't think you're going to find what your looking for. Any form of unarmed martial art is going to put your hands at risk. Hell, your chances of not getting them hurt in armed MA is debatable. In this case, I think your best bet would be a stun gun or something, since you want to learn these for self defence.
He can do Olympic Tae Kwon DO.
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Old 07-23-2006, 02:19 PM   #15
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I got kendo.... Now I'll never know what OTHER style I should take!
i got tai chi first time i tried it. me? tai chi?
anyways it just remembers the answer for a day, so go back the next day and change your answers slightly.
i love fudebakudo, i think its ace.

hehe, yeah olympic taekwondo is the ultimate non-contact contact art.
nice one penguin rush
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Old 07-23-2006, 03:41 PM   #16
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Olympic Tae Kwon do is a martial art? Since when?

Tai Chi is a good suggestion. Beats Olimpic TKD anytime.
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Old 07-23-2006, 04:29 PM   #17
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jujutsu takes longer than judo -- if it's traditional jj, it takes as long or longer than aikido for proficiency. If it's an mma hybrid, count on injuries. Anyway, for jujutsu, it's important to check out the dojo and have enough experience to analyze the practice and usefulness in real situations (the old "you have to know what you're looking at" caveat).

For self-defense in a quick turnaround, check out krav maga, or any striking style. Karate is not a bad idea. You can learn the basic atemi form in a reasonable amount of time. I wouldn't think hand injuries are too common in most striking systems. It's not like you're going to be spearhanding concrete. Just remember that any martial art is like kendo -- to get something worthwhile out of it, you have to have commitment -- there are no quick fixes.
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Old 07-23-2006, 04:32 PM   #18
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having studied taiji for a couple of years seriously, I don't think it's a good first empty-handed art. I would approach taiji only having experience in a more external or hard style. It's like studying advanced theory before you have any basics.
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Old 07-24-2006, 03:59 AM   #19
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I've been taking Kendo since March and I'm thinking of taking some kind of hand to hand martial art in the Fall in addition to Kendo. My worry, however, is I play guitar and I've heard that its common to break or injure fingers in Karate, so I'm considering Judo or Aikido, does anyone know what the threat to one's hands is like in these martial arts?
In summary, you have just started kendo since March, have likely just started in bogu and are not advanced enough to visit other clubs and would like to start studying something else. I worry about the two hares. If you chase two hares you will catch neither.
Kendo will soon take up an awfull lot of your time. Between practices, homedrills, visiting other clubs, tournaments, and seminars you will not have a lot of time to learn another martial art properly. I would concentrate on passing your 1st kyu and shodan and then consider looking for something else.
As for self defence, there are several specialized quick fix catalogue courses (easy compendium of how 2.... take-down, throw a punch, pop a knee...) that can teach you a series of useful basic techniques with very little study in almost no-time. They are a great way to learn how to land yourself in a hospital by standing your ground like a man instead of walking away.

However, I don't know of a legitimate martial art that doesn't take years of hard work to become remotely effective .
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