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Old 11-03-2006, 12:58 PM   #1
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Default Dishonoured Kendo Club
Hey guys. I was just looking at my Kendo uniform from last year and remembered there is a story to it, but I wanted to see if I could get details about it.

Apparently in Kyushuu there was a University Kendo club that were very strong, basically feared by other Kendo clubs. I think my Japanese uncle (who is a Kendo teacher) went to this University because he gave me the uniform. I know that it had a big reputation because everytime a Sensei saw the Kanji on the back of my Hakama they would be very impressed. Now they catch, apparently members of this University team did something so shameful that the Kendo club was shut down and no longer exists- does anyone know about this?

thanks,

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Old 11-03-2006, 02:26 PM   #2
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I heard some one got killed accidentally or some student was beaten. I'm not sure
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:39 PM   #3
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I am almost certain, but I think one of the sempais were abusing the kohai, like giving him a hard time after practice or something, kinda like the stupid initiation stuff you would do have to go through if you were a freshman in an American highschool/college football team. And the kohai died.

i stand to be corrected,
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:48 PM   #4
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Did the kohai die during practice, or after practice during this alleged hazing?
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:49 PM   #5
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There is an old thread about this somewhere. I thought it was in Kanto, not Kyuushuu. My mistake.
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:52 PM   #6
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Sounds like Kokushikan. They still have a club and are slowely building their reputation up again. Uchimura Ryoichi attended it.

I was/am interested in going there and asked my sensei about it.

Essentially, there was a freshman who's father was a very famous sensei. So the sempai singled him out and were especially mean to him. One day, they ganged up on him, beat him, and stuffed him upside down into a folded mat where he suffocated.

He was a very nice kid and the father's oldest son.

That's the story.
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:59 PM   #7
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Thank you for explaining what happened, Anduu. It's very sad, indeed
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Old 11-03-2006, 09:00 PM   #8
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....not Kyuushuu.
Moooo...why do you have to say it like that way?
I'm gonna call my peeps in Oita and tell 'em to capture and release some freakin' funky-monkies into your crib yo.
LOL
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Old 11-03-2006, 10:42 PM   #9
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Hey thanks for the replies everyone. Wow that isn't a very good story at all, thanks for your help
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Old 11-04-2006, 06:05 AM   #10
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I farted in the dojo and basically ruined it forever.
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Old 11-05-2006, 12:10 AM   #11
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Sounds like Kokushikan. They still have a club and are slowely building their reputation up again. Uchimura Ryoichi attended it.

I was/am interested in going there and asked my sensei about it.

Essentially, there was a freshman who's father was a very famous sensei. So the sempai singled him out and were especially mean to him. One day, they ganged up on him, beat him, and stuffed him upside down into a folded mat where he suffocated.

He was a very nice kid and the father's oldest son.

That's the story.
There's more than one Kokushikan campus. The story I heard was that someone fell down during practice, was kicked and died as a result. Maybe it was a different incident?
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Old 11-05-2006, 01:06 AM   #12
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at least there's no "shootings" in Asian schools, or is there?
Comparing violence in Japan and violence in America is like comparing apples and bananas. You may not get school shootings in Japan (because there are no guns) but how often do you have a kid in the US cut off the head of another kid and leave it displayed at the gate of the school? Or a young girl slashing another girls throat and letting her bleed to death in the middle of school for writing something 'bad' about her on a website? You don't often read about a kid killing his parents with a hammer while asleep, and then setting off a gas exsplosion all because the father was 'hard on him'. Less violence here but when it happens it's quite gruesome.
And the Japanese fear of violence in other countries is irrational. I don't care if I get flamed for this, they are pretty clueless as to how the rest of the world is.

To whoever asked about the punishment, they probably got a slap on the wrist like every other criminal in Japan.
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Old 11-05-2006, 01:59 AM   #13
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If you mean the current All-Japan Champion, Uchimura Ryoichi, he attended Meiji Gakuin.
He actually attended Meiji University. Meiji Gakuin university is a separate school.
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Old 11-05-2006, 03:57 AM   #14
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I farted in the dojo and basically ruined it forever.
Wwwooaah...man thas an orful tail... I erm shur it a ubban miff (i howp so enyweiz...)
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Old 11-05-2006, 04:50 AM   #15
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Sounds like Kokushikan. They still have a club and are slowely building their reputation up again. Uchimura Ryoichi attended it.
If you mean the current All-Japan Champion, Uchimura Ryoichi, he attended Meiji Gakuin.
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Old 11-05-2006, 04:57 AM   #16
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There's more than one Kokushikan campus. The story I heard was that someone fell down during practice, was kicked and died as a result. Maybe it was a different incident?
What the hell kinda kick could kill an armored kendo ka, was it on purpose, like to the nuts or something?
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Old 11-05-2006, 05:05 AM   #17
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What the hell kinda kick could kill an armored kendo ka, was it on purpose, like to the nuts or something?
The kind where you're down on the ground, and a circle of angry young men kick the crap out of you while you are defenseless.
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Old 11-05-2006, 05:11 AM   #18
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It seems to me that this sort of thing has the possibility of happening anywhere in the world, unless you can name a place that you know 100% doesn't have hazing. I would just let your intuition flow, listen and watch closely for the first sign of trouble, and be prepared to leave when you get that stimuli.
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Old 11-05-2006, 05:56 AM   #19
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The kind where you're down on the ground, and a circle of angry young men kick the crap out of you while you are defenseless.
Jesus...

What happened to the "kids" who did this and the sensei/trainers who were supposed to be managing the club? I'd assume kids got expelled and are serving prison terms and sensei/trainers have become pariah. Just wonder if the sensei/trainers were held responsible for this on a criminal level. I would think that as they are the ones who should stop this kind of behaviour, they would be held responsible....

This is the kind of stuff that terrifies me about sending my kids to Korea for school or sport... It's not Japan but the dynamics are pretty similar in this type of scenario....
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Old 11-05-2006, 05:57 AM   #20
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come on.. kendoka are well mannered people... if a school of kendoka decided to bash the crap out of this guy.... then this guy must of done something really bad....

or that he possess no social and survival skill in the group.. and was pissing everyone off..


no flame.. just theory..
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