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Old 12-17-2006, 12:48 AM   #21
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Perhaps, instead of watching un-creative editing of an old exploitation movie, you should pick up a book.
er...I think its the actual movie trailer which is why I found it so amusing. I couldn't imagine this even being touched with a ten foot pole in today's PC world.

The N word is extremely taboo, when you hear it, it just calls your attention and makes some people feel extremely uncomfortable, and when someone names a thread "Boss Nigga", its bound to get some critism. Although I did feel our friend could have expressed his discomfort better, rather than insinuate that the people on this board were stupid.
Well, I was contemplating using another name but I felt "what's the point?" That's what the movie is called so what else could you call it. I'll admit I contemplated putting the actual title with "er" instead of "a" but thought that would be too shocking...ah well. As I said, you can't take this flick seriously, its so over the top that its comic genius.

While I think people have the right to their opinion, I think taking this film is offensive is like me calling Kung Pow racist.


blacula

i've always wanted to see this!
Hehehe...
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:13 AM   #22
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Well, I was contemplating using another name but I felt "what's the point?" That's what the movie is called so what else could you call it. I'll admit I contemplated putting the actual title with "er" instead of "a" but thought that would be too shocking...ah well. As I said, you can't take this flick seriously, its so over the top that its comic genius.

While I think people have the right to their opinion, I think taking this film is offensive is like me calling Kung Pow racist.


I dont disagree.
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Old 12-17-2006, 03:25 AM   #23
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Bokushingu, relax...seriously...you've made 3 posts and they've all been flaming someone or another. While I'm sure you're not a troll, you come across as being quite aggressive, which is rather unpleasant.

Blacula looks crazy...
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Old 12-17-2006, 04:17 AM   #24
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I started training in Kendo because I heard it was full of advanced thinking people.
Sorry to disappoint you, but we’re just like the rest. We just have a strange hobby/love/interest, JSA. The people training JSA come from all walks of life. This means we aren’t all scholars. I like to think I’m open minded, however, once in a while I find out I’m not as open minded as I thought.

I grew up in the late 60's absorbing the pain caused by racism & ignorance.I found your link distastefull.
Now, I can never understand how you feel, I’m a white guy from Holland, but you have to put the film into perspective here. I really don’t like the N word, it’s insulting, no doubt about it. The film is a classical example of blaxploitation. Is it wrong, yes, but when you look at it you see a black guy kicking some racist ass give them a taste of there own medicine.

Again the use of the N word is disgusting, but when you look at the time the movie was made and the era the movie portrays, the use of the N word was more common. We don’t use it (I don’t), but we’re are trying to put the movie into the perspective of that era. Because of your background, this is very hard and I do understand (a little) that you don’t like it and why, but please try to understand that not all of us have the experiences with racism like you and therefore have a different view on this movie. So please bring your message with more tact and explanation, this way you don’t get flamed.
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Old 12-17-2006, 04:22 AM   #25
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I try to consider what i post, and if it will be offensive or inconsiderate. I try to speak & type ethically.
Reread your first post and ask yourself if you trully do what you preach.
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Old 12-17-2006, 04:41 AM   #26
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Sorry for the double post:

The title of the movie is in fact Boss nigger check the link, no editing whatsoever. For somebody who lived in that era and nowadays, you seem to neglect the fact that black americans use the n word casually between eachother which is the case in that movie.
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Old 12-17-2006, 04:31 PM   #27
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I have to say thanks for responding in a respectfull manner & posting your disagreement with out attacking me.

The title of the movie is in fact Boss nigger check the link, no editing whatsoever. No. That link is editing of that movie; it is not the entire movie, And the movie had multiple titles. you or many people may like it. .I didn't.

For somebody who lived in that era and nowadays, you seem to neglect the fact that black americans use the n word casually between eachother which is the case in that movie. I am an American of african descent. I don't use that word. My family & friends don't use that word. The Majority of Americans(no matter the race) don't use that word.
This is the problem that i have with exploitation fiction. they are lies and they support stero-typing no matter the race. Because you may have heard of some rap songs or seen some gangster movies where the N-word is being tossed around doesn't mean that this is actually going on in the black community. My family never supported exploitation movies in any manner...so we didnt watch them. I have been to many all-black niteclubs and particpated in sports such as boxing which have a heavy black percentage and i can tell you we don't use that word with each other; we call each other by our names like every other normal American. i work in healthcare and have met many black professionals: none of them use it. In fact, I haven't met any Americans that use it in 90's or 2000's. Only visitors from other coutries that still play those outdated movies, and even they don't understand what it means.

I can't speak for gang-members because i don't know any. Of the 12% population they are 1 percent.

Many Americans aren't happy with what happened in the past. We learned from it & advanced. You don't have to be black to find that clip uncomfortable & you don't have to be white to find it funny. I as an individual didn't like it.

Sorry if i came off too strong, but i had to speak my feelings.
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Old 12-17-2006, 06:22 PM   #28
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Sorry if i came off too strong, but i had to speak my feelings.
Please allow me to apologize for my outburst. You have every reason to feel the way you do about that clip, and I was wrong for attacking you. I am sorry.
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Old 12-17-2006, 09:36 PM   #29
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I guess it should be my turn to chime in.

I am a black American, but I wasn't born during the 60s so I really don't know what it was like during those times beyond the general school education, various Eyes on the Prize videos, a few books and a class I took in College (very interesting one though).

As far as people's use of the N word, it mostly depends on what side of the fence you were on. If you haven't lived during that time then, understandably, you would hate the use of the word. From there, it's various degrees of hatred towards the word based on your style of living.

Bokushingu definately has a point though. For those of you who might not have been exposed to the meaning of the word and such, then I would be careful when using such a word. There are understanding people that might let it slide depending on how well you know the person but, in most cases, you could end up hurting the person, even if you don't mean it.

As for the general usage of the word in today's world, from a younger person's point of view, the word is used more than you think. It is used a lot in pop music videos and amongst the "hip" black people. But in a more professional setting similar to the situations Bokushingu described, it definately isn't used.

I was raised learning to not put everything in one group. When it comes to the N word, I put it in perspective as far as who uses it and take it on a case by case basis depending on the other person's intent. Of course, I use that thinking in everything I do. But when it comes to actually saying the word, you will never hear me use it in any situation. The word has been used in negative context and it still hurts people to no end who have suffered under the use and feelings behind the word.

Despite the thread meaning no harm whatsoever, it would have been better off to not post it at all. Being such a worldwide forum, its easy to take offense to just about anything that might have some sort of negative connotation. I wouldn't go so far as to go totally PC (Politically Correct), but it's nice to think about what one is saying before he or she says it.

On a side note, there was this one time where this black guy told me that I wasn't black, but negro, because I couldn't think for myself. I'll spare the details, but he is definately someone that needs help.
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Old 12-18-2006, 06:51 AM   #30
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My opinion is if you can simply say a word and it causes you to get emotional, upset, or flat out pissed off then the word controls you. You become manipulated. I've been called racial slurs several times but to allow those words to have such power over me would make me a weak-minded person.

A good friend of mine always said meet ignorance with silence.

Political correctness is a disease which robs people of their common sense and turns you into a tight ass. Leave political correctness to the crooked politicians. Again, my own opinion.
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Old 12-18-2006, 07:51 AM   #31
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Hey thank-you guys for reaching out . Thank-you, Viking, and i too apologize. You guys really made me feel better.

with that i hope everyone has a great holiday.
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Old 12-18-2006, 08:04 AM   #32
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Hey thank-you guys for reaching out . Thank-you, Viking, and i too apologize. You guys really made me feel better.

with that i hope everyone has a great holiday.
Shit! Its Christmas next week!!! Happy X-mas everyone...unfortunately, the only white christmas we're gonna get here in Oz is the ice in the freezer we grab our beers from.

Bokushingu, hope to see you and the rest of the US crew in the next WKC in Brazil.
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Old 12-18-2006, 06:17 PM   #33
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Thank-you, Viking, and i too apologize.
No need to apologize. I was wrong. Again, sorry. Perhaps the next time I am in Southern California we can whack each other around.
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Old 12-18-2006, 10:44 PM   #34
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Hmmm....well, I can see where anyone can take offence, or feel this post was in ill-taste. Throwing the N word around(eventhough I am not saying anyone was), is a very sensitive thing.
Hey man, I never call anyone a Ninjer.
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Old 12-18-2006, 10:48 PM   #35
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Hey man, I never call anyone a Ninjer.
You evil evil man...

Dude, were you at the WKC too?
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Old 12-18-2006, 10:53 PM   #36
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You evil evil man...

Dude, were you at the WKC too?
Nah, couldn't make it. I was not very interested in the KWC until last weekend, but now I'm riding shotgun on the bandwagon.

btw, are you in Adelaide (my birthplace!). Is Jonathan around or is he back in Japan?
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Old 12-19-2006, 02:50 AM   #37
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Hey man, I never call anyone a Ninjer.
And I respect that!

lol.


BTW, I am trying to stop by Kenshinkai and/or NYC for practice, maybe I will see you there. Take care.
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Old 12-19-2006, 02:52 AM   #38
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Nah, couldn't make it. I was not very interested in the KWC until last weekend, but now I'm riding shotgun on the bandwagon.

btw, are you in Adelaide (my birthplace!). Is Jonathan around or is he back in Japan?
I was...like 7 years ago...hehehe, back when Flinders Uni Kendo club was starting out and Big Chris had a beard.

Right now I'm heading off to Perth to visit the folks and have a good perv at the bikinis down at Cottesloe...hehe
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Old 12-19-2006, 03:12 AM   #39
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quote: Is Jonathan around or is he back in Japan?

yeah cross sensei got back from japan ages ago
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Old 12-19-2006, 03:44 AM   #40
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well, when those kids do grow up (physically). .. but mentally they'll always be the same kid. Masahiro, given the nature of kendo, do you agree that you need to be mentally mature to be, say, a world class kendoka?
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