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**lomonel** · 04-26-2007, 07:45 AM

Does anyone know right off hand how these cards are supposed to be used?

Serious question -- I know I'm teeing it up for some colorful answers, but I'd really like to know what the purpose of the cards is other than identification.

"Are you an AUSKF member?"
"Yup, sure am. Here's my card!"

Ok, great. But what else might they be used for? Quick verification at tournaments/shinsa that membership is current?

**serius_06** · 04-26-2007, 08:51 AM

Rogers, yes the intent I believe is to have 'membership dues paid' proof at tournaments and such. I'm not sure such a plan has really been put into practice yet however. I can tell you the SEUSKF has considered doing something similiar but so far has not. A lot of the board of both orgs has stated their displeasure at people paying dues right before a promotion or tournament so they can play, instead of supporting their federation all year long. For the member federations (such as the SEUSKF) paid membership roles give us votes in the national org and people that wait to pay right before a promo in the fall don't allow their local federation to have their membership counted (if anyone follows what I am trying to say).

**fameintatenly** · 04-26-2007, 08:57 AM

The back of the card reads, in part:
This card indicates the cardholder's AUSKF ID number only. The card does NOT certify that the holder is an active member of the Federation.

**spklnraz** · 04-26-2007, 09:05 AM

The ID number is a permanent record of your involvement in AUSKF. As Ignatz said, it doesn't mean you're a current member. However, if you have allowed your membership to lapse, paying your dues will not get you another ID card, just will update AUSKF records that you have paid up. Other than that, there is no proof that you are paid up.

If someone enters a shinsa and passes, I'm pretty sure that AUSKF will do a cross check on their membership status before they issue a menjo. They've done a massive overhaul of their membership database, and while it may seem trivial, it is one way of keeping people from 'cheating' by taking an exam and not be currently up-to-date with the AUSKF.

JMHO.

**artkolkovk** · 04-26-2007, 09:09 AM

Exactly... the card itself isn't proof of current paid membership, but the unique registration number is what they look for. I should have worded my earlier response better to reflect that aspect.

**BurdenRobert** · 04-26-2007, 09:11 AM

I'm hoping mine will serve as a "get out of jail free" card, or better yet, "stay out of jail" card, if I am ever stopped by police asking why I'm carrying around "sticks" or a shinken.

**Enjoymms** · 04-26-2007, 09:21 AM

I'm hoping mine will serve as a "get out of jail free" card, or better yet, "stay out of jail" card, if I am ever stopped by police asking why I'm carrying around "sticks" or a shinken.

Just keep saying "Wakarimasen"....if it works for Sammy Sosa at a Congressional hearing, that he suddenly doesn't understand English, maybe it'll work for you.

**Creelaleps** · 04-26-2007, 11:46 AM

We had about 4 cards with misspelled names on them, and I really hope they don't chalk it up to "illegible handwriting" or something that will force the local federation to pay $5 for the hassle of having it replaced.

It was really odd.... because I got the cards as well as some menjos at the same time.
One kid had his name correctly on the menjo... "XXXXX Thornton" ... the AUSKF card reads "XXXXX ThornTAS"

Sensei's card is wrong, too... The list I sent in (I write very carefully with all capital letters) had it "HARRY DACH" ... it comes back "HARRY HYE DACH" ....
go figure...

I'm wondering, though... with the unique member # and such.. just how important it is to have the names corrected...
Part of me says "pretty important if they decide to fall back on the membership # when they print menjos in the future" and another part of me says, "No big deal"....

Thoughts?

**Gometesstem** · 04-26-2007, 11:55 AM

It must involved in two people, one reading and one writing.

Reader: Harry
writer: Harry?
Reader: Hai, Dach
Writer: Harry Hye Dach

go figure

**Gofthooxdix** · 04-26-2007, 12:25 PM

It must involved in two people, one reading and one writing.

Reader: Harry
writer: Harry?
Reader: Hai, Dach
Writer: Harry Hye Dach

go figure

Big One,

Thanks for the hilarious "inside kendo" joke. I have to clean my screen now.

**Hammaduersnes** · 04-26-2007, 01:01 PM

LOL... my thoughts Rogers are that I don't ever put it past them to make mistakes. I haven't even seen my AUSKF card yet. As for falling back on the way it is spelled.. no clue. I would think they would go by what is on the promotion form... but thats just logic speaking.

**AmfitNom** · 04-26-2007, 02:51 PM

It must involved in two people, one reading and one writing.

Reader: Harry
writer: Harry?
Reader: Hai, Dach
Writer: Harry Hye Dach

go figure

hahahah... good one

04-26-2007, 07:45 AM	#1
lomonel Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 648 Senior Member	AUSKF Membership Cards(?) Does anyone know right off hand how these cards are supposed to be used? Serious question -- I know I'm teeing it up for some colorful answers, but I'd really like to know what the purpose of the cards is other than identification. "Are you an AUSKF member?" "Yup, sure am. Here's my card!" Ok, great. But what else might they be used for? Quick verification at tournaments/shinsa that membership is current? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-26-2007, 08:51 AM	#2
serius_06 Join Date Oct 2005 Age 50 Posts 506 Senior Member	Rogers, yes the intent I believe is to have 'membership dues paid' proof at tournaments and such. I'm not sure such a plan has really been put into practice yet however. I can tell you the SEUSKF has considered doing something similiar but so far has not. A lot of the board of both orgs has stated their displeasure at people paying dues right before a promotion or tournament so they can play, instead of supporting their federation all year long. For the member federations (such as the SEUSKF) paid membership roles give us votes in the national org and people that wait to pay right before a promo in the fall don't allow their local federation to have their membership counted (if anyone follows what I am trying to say). Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-26-2007, 08:57 AM	#3
fameintatenly Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 520 Senior Member	The back of the card reads, in part: This card indicates the cardholder's AUSKF ID number only. The card does NOT certify that the holder is an active member of the Federation. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-26-2007, 09:05 AM	#4
spklnraz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 464 Senior Member	The ID number is a permanent record of your involvement in AUSKF. As Ignatz said, it doesn't mean you're a current member. However, if you have allowed your membership to lapse, paying your dues will not get you another ID card, just will update AUSKF records that you have paid up. Other than that, there is no proof that you are paid up. If someone enters a shinsa and passes, I'm pretty sure that AUSKF will do a cross check on their membership status before they issue a menjo. They've done a massive overhaul of their membership database, and while it may seem trivial, it is one way of keeping people from 'cheating' by taking an exam and not be currently up-to-date with the AUSKF. JMHO. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-26-2007, 09:09 AM	#5
artkolkovk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 443 Senior Member	Exactly... the card itself isn't proof of current paid membership, but the unique registration number is what they look for. I should have worded my earlier response better to reflect that aspect. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-26-2007, 09:11 AM	#6
BurdenRobert Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 448 Senior Member	I'm hoping mine will serve as a "get out of jail free" card, or better yet, "stay out of jail" card, if I am ever stopped by police asking why I'm carrying around "sticks" or a shinken. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-26-2007, 09:21 AM	#7
Enjoymms Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 610 Senior Member	I'm hoping mine will serve as a "get out of jail free" card, or better yet, "stay out of jail" card, if I am ever stopped by police asking why I'm carrying around "sticks" or a shinken. Just keep saying "Wakarimasen"....if it works for Sammy Sosa at a Congressional hearing, that he suddenly doesn't understand English, maybe it'll work for you. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-26-2007, 11:46 AM	#8
Creelaleps Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 356 Senior Member	We had about 4 cards with misspelled names on them, and I really hope they don't chalk it up to "illegible handwriting" or something that will force the local federation to pay $5 for the hassle of having it replaced. It was really odd.... because I got the cards as well as some menjos at the same time. One kid had his name correctly on the menjo... "XXXXX Thornton" ... the AUSKF card reads "XXXXX ThornTAS" Sensei's card is wrong, too... The list I sent in (I write very carefully with all capital letters) had it "HARRY DACH" ... it comes back "HARRY HYE DACH" .... go figure... I'm wondering, though... with the unique member # and such.. just how important it is to have the names corrected... Part of me says "pretty important if they decide to fall back on the membership # when they print menjos in the future" and another part of me says, "No big deal".... Thoughts? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-26-2007, 11:55 AM	#9
Gometesstem Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 505 Senior Member	It must involved in two people, one reading and one writing. Reader: Harry writer: Harry? Reader: Hai, Dach Writer: Harry Hye Dach go figure Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-26-2007, 12:25 PM	#10
Gofthooxdix Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 485 Senior Member	It must involved in two people, one reading and one writing. Reader: Harry writer: Harry? Reader: Hai, Dach Writer: Harry Hye Dach go figure Big One, Thanks for the hilarious "inside kendo" joke. I have to clean my screen now. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-26-2007, 01:01 PM	#11
Hammaduersnes Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 701 Senior Member	LOL... my thoughts Rogers are that I don't ever put it past them to make mistakes. I haven't even seen my AUSKF card yet. As for falling back on the way it is spelled.. no clue. I would think they would go by what is on the promotion form... but thats just logic speaking. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-26-2007, 02:51 PM	#12
AmfitNom Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 564 Senior Member	It must involved in two people, one reading and one writing. Reader: Harry writer: Harry? Reader: Hai, Dach Writer: Harry Hye Dach go figure hahahah... good one Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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