[patuvammnogoo]

So,I was doing the usual on Youtube,watching the vid,having an import.


Seriously,I founded this video,and I was wondering did anyone worked out,or met these guys?

What kind of tradition does this martial art have?It's kind of mixed up arts.
It does look quite flashy,and I bet the dojo is full of students (shinkendoka's?),but whats the real deal?
On the official site there is a listing of Dojo's and there are lots of them outside the U.S. too.
Australia,Canada,U.K.,France,Germany,etc.

They practice:

- Sparring(pre-arranged).There is a promo video too.
-Kata,
-combative drawing,
-and tameshigiri (nitten too)amongst others.

Could anyone enlighten me on this subject?
I tried Wikipedia,but its pretty much copied from the official site.

Thanks!

[suiviouse]

Here's a thread from a couple weeks ago discussing shinkendo as a training option.

One of the posters gave this link to an e-budo thread where the founder answered questions about the practice. You need an e-budo account to view so I haven't read it myself.

[Worseacar]

Here's a thread from a couple weeks ago discussing shinkendo as a training option.

Terribly sorry,I missed that!
Didn't realized,I was opening a Pandora's box...

[StethyEntinic]

No pandora box opened. Some people like shinkendo others don't, same thing goes for kendo. But both are gendai and don't claim to be anything they're not. Some kendoka are a bit itchy about it, mainly for the name and some comments made by Obata sensei about kendo, opinions shared by many high ranking exponents of some koryu I must say (Otake Risuke from TSKSR being one).

I've personaly been doing it for about 7 years now, and quite pleased about it. Done some research about its origins and found many interesting things. Met Obata once, shared some beers and talked with him, very knowledgeable man with an extensive esperience. The schools follow a formula adopted by many koryu, quite different from kendo and iaido. If you want to know more about it I would suggest visiting a dojo with a qualified instructor and see for yourself.

[aquadayAquaks]

Wasn't the dude in that youtube link in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?

"Neeenja vanish..."

[Jjfotqse]

Yup he was, used to play parts in various movies as a living. Being an actor is not an uncommon career for traditionnal martial arts teacher in Japan, as being a policeman or a farmer.

[Kemapreedasse]

Yup he was, used to play parts in various movies as a living. Being an actor is not an uncommon career for traditionnal martial arts teacher in Japan, as being a policeman or a farmer.

Obata sensei was in a James Bond movie as well.

[wp6Eg2Fm]

its strange, ebudo says i have to register in order to view the page, and yet registration has been disabled...

[Calluffence]

Obata sensei was in a James Bond movie as well.

Really? Which one?

[autolubitelone]

its strange, ebudo says i have to register in order to view the page, and yet registration has been disabled...

Just ended my three year adventure in Iraq.

Time to get back to work here, and the first thing I have done is to stop any new memberships, and prevent guests for viewing the forums.

I want to clean things up a bit and will be asking for your advice.

I also need to do a software upgrade soon as well.

Thanks to George Kohler for looking after things while I was away...

The forum is still up for those who registered before. We have no word when the new-regs will be active again.

[Mqcawkzd]

ah thanks.

[MormefWrarebe]

Never heard about any james bond movie, you must be confusing with someone else.

[Katoabralia]

Being an actor is not an uncommon career for traditionnal martial arts teacher in Japan, as being a policeman or a farmer.

Can I ask how you come to this conclusion?

[Cengaeas]

Never heard about any james bond movie, you must be confusing with someone else.

Probably Odd Job...

[QzVyZbTg]

Can I ask how you come to this conclusion? Can I ask why you doubt this conclusion? I simply read about martial arts teacher who had jobs as actors (and no I'm not talking Steven Seagal ). A good example would be Yanagiya Kosan, living national treasure, was an actor and a kendo teacher (Hanshi). Sorry the link is in french only. Altough he did mostly rakugo, he also did voices for kid oriented anime (Pompoko for example).

And seems he's not the only one: http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/spor.../29/2003310677

[toksenveste]

Never heard about any james bond movie, you must be confusing with someone else.

Well I think I remeber correctly that I heard him say (from his mouth) that he had and I vaguely recall his face in one, I think he may have thrown a trick hat like a frisby that then killed one of the other characters. Just did a quick Google, but couldn find anything.

[rhiniddibiarmr]

Harold Sakata bio is here:

www.imdb.com/name/nm0757138/bio

as to martial arts actors, how about Ken Kensei a.k.a. Noburu Kataoka, kendo 7 dan.

www.imdb.com/name/nm0448640/

[Ruiptuptubre]

If he did play in James Bond that was a very small role and not included in his filmography.

Noburu Kataoka sensei was the one from my second link, anyway I think the point is made ;-).

[OWDavid]

Can I ask why you doubt this conclusion?

Certainly. You said:

Being an actor is not an uncommon career for traditionnal martial arts teacher in Japan, as being a policeman or a farmer.

Now, I dont dispute that there are traditional martial arts teachers in Japan who are actors... never said anything to the contrary... but the "its not an uncommon career" seems a bit enthusiastic.

In my small experience (Im not reading about it though) I have yet to meet a single actor who teaches either kendo or koryu here in Japan. That doesnt meen there arent any. In fact, ive seen a bio in one of the kendo mags about one recently. He wasnt a teacher though.

Occassionally you see celebrities on Japanese TV who used to do kendo... like an idol or the guy from Smap. They tend not to pursue it past school as they are trying to be successful in their career.

Ive only met a single farmer who was 7dan as well. Nice guy. Got some free cucumbers from him. Doesnt mean there arent millions of them out there.

The people ive met tend to be normal people, salary men or what not, and of-course police and teachers seem to make up a fair chunk. There was of-course the ex-Prime Minister of Japan - Hashimoto - who was 6dan (a pity grade given to him on his death bed it seems...) but thats a different story.

I saw an embukai with one TSKR guy who did the choreography for Semi-Shigure, so thats pretty close. Im pretty sure he wasnt an actor, just an ordinary dude.

Ignatz examples are of 2 people based in America (if not American?) and - while they do serve to illustrate that people who do martial arts sometimes do pursue acting careers, it still doest convince me that your original "its not an uncommon career... in Japan" hold true.

Edit: my own koryu teachers have included: bankers, railway guys, business men; and my kendo teachers have included: police, sdf, firemen, business men, and a farmer; when I did iaido my teachers were: classical musician, business men.

anyway I think the point is made ;-).

Well, one way or another.

[Shinegayboyx]

I have no position on whether or not it is "not uncommon". I only know one kendo person who is a professional actor, plus a cinematographer, a film producer, a stage director, several lawyers, a D.J., business owners, a chef, several stockbrokers, architects, doctors etc.