[xsVfF9Em]

Is copy write different from copyright?

[cmruloah]

No, what you have done is stolen someone else’s work, and image, defaced it, and then reposted is as your own without credit to the owner.
Now, that said, posting credit does not absolve you from liability even in the least.

You've basically hosed yourself, and if they decide to sue, you have no leg to stand on. Why open yourself up to that?

I'd remove it asap before they find out.
At the very least, your Youtube account will be possibly suspended, which may be a good thing actually.

Ok this is true.

But...at a very theoretical rate.

Lets look at it from a different perspective, because copywritten material over a 14-28 sec video is gonna end my life!! ZOMG!!

How about the fact that, they have already made themselves look stupid AND non-legit in their supposed "kendo art technique"? Shouldnt those women take that guy to court for literally stealing their money in a false dojo?

This is childish really.

[alicewong]

Is copy write different from copyright?

A copywriter writes 'copy' (content) for ads and similar.
A copyright is right to control of media/content that you have created.
A copywrit(e) is a misspelling.

[GECEDEANY]

Dude, Youtube must be the biggest copywritten whore to ever come across the face of this earth!

Why does this have to become some big sin I have committed? Its just a damn vid off their website, and for fun I am adding lightsabers to make it look...better...

Read the youtube video summary

"I am basically adding lightsaber effects and the very serious valve track 1 soundtrack to make this mcdojo "kendo" vid totally awesome "

*Shrugs shoulders..*

I'll tell you this:
I created a video a while back which was an illustrated story.
Took me almost a month to create.
It got ganked by youtube and I almost got sued.
Why? Because I had included a photo of a person whom I did not get permission from in the video. (Mainly because he was dead, but his money-grubbing relatives were not.) Like it or not, they were right, and I was wrong.
Unless we are talking fair use, which is another kettle of fish, but whatever.


So go right ahead, feel free to steal whatever it is you see fit to steal and use it as you please.
The world's your oyster right? What's the big deal?

I reiterate.
Cretin.

*shrugs shoulders*

[lapInsalm]

A copywrit(e) is a misspelling.

Too true! How embarrassing!

[flnastyax]

I'll tell you this:
I created a video a while back which was an illustrated story.
Took me almost a month to create.
It got ganked by youtube and I almost got sued.
Why? Because I had included a photo of a person whom I did not get permission from in the video. (Mainly because he was dead, but his money-grubbing relatives were not.) Like it or not, they were right, and I was wrong.
Unless we are talking fair use, which is another kettle of fish, but whatever.


So go right ahead, feel free to steal whatever it is you see fit to steal and use it as you please.
The world's your oyster right? What's the big deal?

I reiterate.
Cretin.

*shrugs shoulders*

Totally different to what we see going on here....

sad really...

[mloversia]

No, what you have done is stolen someone else’s work, and image, defaced it, and then reposted is as your own without credit to the owner. Now, that said, posting credit does not absolve you from liability even in the least.

You've basically hosed yourself, and if they decide to sue, you have no leg to stand on. Why open yourself up to that?

Kenzan, do you work for Sony, or is it just your natural instinct with regard to Kendoka-Han?

EDIT: *sees post above re: personal experience* I see now.

I personally think you're having a bit of sport with Han - you're bright enough to know copyright law is not that simple.

[kennyguitar]

There's no need to be an arse just because the guy has said some stuff that's pissed you off...

How ever do you come up with these pearls of mystical wisdom?

[LSDDSL]

I'll tell you this:
I created a video a while back which was an illustrated story.
Took me almost a month to create.
It got ganked by youtube and I almost got sued.
Why? Because I had included a photo of a person whom I did not get permission from in the video. (Mainly because he was dead, but his money-grubbing relatives were not.) Like it or not, they were right, and I was wrong.
Unless we are talking fair use, which is another kettle of fish, but whatever.

This is what is so abominable in America. Regardless of whether or not someone has a legitimate claim, they find a lawyer who will work on a contingent fee (he gets paid if you win or settle) to write intimidating letters and put someone else in the position of either settling or going to court to prove that they are, in fact, not liable. Assuming that the defendant is indeed not liable for whatever claim asserted, that person still loses in the sense that they have to hire a lawyer to defend them or pay out the settlement. If the aggressive lawyer is good, they'll know precisely what the defense would cost and suggest a settlement just under the cost of going to court.

It is legitimized extortion.

[Pashtet]

Seeing as you have captured a video belonging to someone else, (copywritten material) and altered it poorly, and then publically reposted it, all three actions without permission I assume, I would surmise that talking to her would only serve to bring these facts to light, and possibly facilitate a rather nasty lawsuit against you.

I'm certain your parents would love to have to pay large sums of money for no other reason other than due your stupidity.

So is this what you few weeks of Kendo has taught you?

I really thought we'd be over all of this by now...

I definately agree with Andrew on this because I can almost guarantee that if this was done by someone else on the forum with a better reputation, there would be a better reception to what is being done.

Really, we all know of his dubious past making lots of false claims and stuff. As of now, he's taken up real Kendo since July and seems to be having a lot of fun with it. Sure, there are the problems with the religion fiasco, but even now, he's been just posting them on his Myspace blog, where they should be (or a religious discussion forum at least).

Personally, I think it's a pretty decent attempt to alter a movie using that kind of technique (coming from the mind of someone who couldn't do this kind of stuff himself). While it's been done many times over, it's nice to be able to do something like that because you can.

The issues that you are apparently still talking about are months old and it's time to move on. He's done something that most people that come here don't do, which is starting real Kendo depsite claiming to be a high ranking teacher. That takes a lot of humility in it's self. If anything, it's SOMETHING you can congratulate him on.

Besides, if someone has a problem with the movie, they'll most likely just request it being taken down if they don't appreciate it. This was just a video taken outside and uploaded with little artistic intention from what I see. So I don't see any large lawsuits happining from posting something on a free, public forum that can be seen and commented on by anyone.

[Xlkl9SFd]

This is what is so abominable in America.

Copyrights are almost universally protected in the Western world.
China and Russia seems to have their own set of rules, though..

[freeringsf]

JSchmidt - I was referring more specifically to Kenzan's personal experience.

There are quite a few international treaties governing copyright protection - Brussels is coming to mind as the most recent (I think the 70s? Maybe there's been one since). However, like many treaties to which the U.S. is a part, there is always some confusion to the precise extent it allows itself to be bound by them. I would imagine Australia would be a part of that treaty - and that Australia would have its own form of copyright protection that would likely vary a little from American or English copyright.

[www.forumsovetov.ru]

I will repost the vid when its fully complete.

[Konservir]

Does it really matter that it was originally someone else's video to begin with? Its not like most videos on youtube that are worth watching were posted by the folks who originally made them or anything. And I really doubt that anyone would bother filing a lawsuit unless they were making money off that stuff.

[nasdfrdg]

You'd be surprised. As Kenzan knows from firsthand experience - when people smell the possibility of money - or even less insidious - when people see themselves used in a way they didn't expect, even if the creator isn't making money, one can be fairly charged about it.

People like to be in control of how they are presented to the world.

[KuevDulin]

China and Russia seems to have their own set of rules, though..

Does anyone know the "POP Station" ? Or the "Vii" by "Chintendo"? Hilarious rip-offs, you have to see it... It's like parody.
POP Station:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvXleDSkB-g
Chintendo Vii:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyeIkW_LGrQ

Then you won't mind If I advise them of what you have done?

BTW:
Anyone ever tell you that you are a complete cretin?

No?

Get used to hearing it as you go through life.

I already wanted to give you -rep for your previous post, but this is too much. As I cannot give you anymore rep (I need to spread it around, haha), I will say this openly:
You are behaving really very childish at the moment. Stop it!

[Aluback]

How ever do you come up with these pearls of mystical wisdom?

Nothing mystical about it, your replies to anything posted by han are always the same.

[citicroego]

Nothing mystical about it, your replies to anything posted by han are always the same.

As are yours to mine.

[voksveta]

Just thought I'd add to this complete waste of perfectly good forum space!

And to the guy who said "if this was posted by a popular member, rep would've been given. SPOT ON MATE!

KenZan, that horse is indeed high. Watch out for the HAPE.

[tofRobbroolve]

Thing is,
there is a huge problem here.
Sad fact is none of you know what it is.

I'm done with this Cretin's-Nest.
So long, and thanks for all the fish.