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Old 06-02-2008, 03:43 AM   #1
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Default Man attacked with samurai sword (Sweden)
Here's something I never thought I'd see in Sweden...And in my hometown on top of that.


http://www.op.se/parser.php?level1=161&level2=713&id=917264


I'm guessing most of you dont read swedish, but the synopsis is that an intoxicated 20 year old man attacked another man of the same age with a samurai sword in the latters apartment. The victim managed to avoid serious injuries and fended off the more serious blows. The attackers arm was severley injured when he broke into the apartment in question and cut himself on the broken windowglass.

Again I never thought I'd see something like this where I live. Hope they wont start the whole "swordban" debate here in Sweden.
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Old 06-02-2008, 03:57 AM   #2
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eek! Something like that happened a few streets away from where I live a couple of months ago... a drunken guy attacked another guy with a wall-hanger, "thankfully" only caused cuts to the palms of his hands... but still...
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Old 06-02-2008, 04:21 AM   #3
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Again I never thought I'd see something like this where I live. Hope they wont start the whole "swordban" debate here in Sweden.
Blame the global warming.
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Old 06-02-2008, 04:37 AM   #4
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Here's something I never thought I'd see in Sweden...And in my hometown on top of that.


http://www.op.se/parser.php?level1=161&level2=713&id=917264


I'm guessing most of you dont read swedish, but the synopsis is that an intoxicated 20 year old man attacked another man of the same age with a samurai sword in the latters apartment. The victim managed to avoid serious injuries and fended off the more serious blows. The attackers arm was severley injured when he broke into the apartment in question and cut himself on the broken windowglass.

Again I never thought I'd see something like this where I live. Hope they wont start the whole "swordban" debate here in Sweden.
Similiar thing happened in Ireland Last year, and we are going down the same road as the uk with regard to regulation.
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Old 06-02-2008, 04:58 AM   #5
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Yeah even had it here in Japan last yr by my school. However was some nut just practicing. No actually attack though!
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Old 06-02-2008, 06:10 AM   #6
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Here we go again, some idiot does something stupid with a sword (or similar); public outcry about swords can kill with no thought as to how much the person holding it is involved; politicians react by banning the offending article.

Now, let's see, how many people are killed or injured by cars? Are cars banned?
How many people die falling down the stairs? Are stairs banned?
and tabacco?
and alcohol
and ooh, viruses. How many viruses are banned?

The world is going nuts, but the politicians are making it nuttier than it needs to be. If a person is intent on violence or murder, they will do those things, and if a sword doesn't come easily to hand, something else suitable will.
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Old 06-02-2008, 06:43 AM   #7
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While I agree with you Peter, it is the individual that should be sorted not the weapon, i do also agree its alot easier to attack / damage / injure another person intentionally with a sword than it is with tobacco etc.

Even cars would not be used in retaliation crime as much as knives / swords.

Personally, i think government control and regulation will only strenghten the arts we practice.
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:45 AM   #8
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I've heard of this happening before too. I believe it was in Australia. Though, this sort of thing is only bound to happen. When guns are banned, swords become the next instrument of choice. If swords were banned, then it would be baseball/cricket bats. People will always find a tool of some sort to accomplish their goals if they are dead set on doing something.
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:49 AM   #9
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Blame the global warming.
All Gore thanks you for your support...
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Old 06-02-2008, 11:17 AM   #10
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the stupid thing is more people get killed with cricket bats than samurai swords but you dont see people banning them?!
its ridiculous
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Old 06-02-2008, 04:59 PM   #11
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and ooh, viruses. How many viruses are banned?
Yeah! People and their damn viruses. They sneeze all over you and spread their filth! I'm calling my member of parliament today.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:15 AM   #12
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.... If a person is intent on violence or murder, they will do those things, and if a sword doesn't come easily to hand, something else suitable will.
Paraphrasing:-
If World War 3 is fought using nuclear weapons - World War 4 will be fought employing sticks and stones....................... Albert Einstein.

Whilst waiting for WW 3 some people are turning to 'sharps'.

We can do little about idiots who take up arms against their fellow man........

Sometimes I think that removing a limb from such dolts would be a reasonable response to their idiocy. I know that that sounds a bit 'Sharia Law'....... but if it works......../

After all - does not the Bible suggest 'an eye for an eye' - - I am pretty sure that many fools would take note of 'legislated retribution' or 'legalised vengeance'

This radical view from one who has been stabbed twice and straight-razored once - - by complete strangers and for no other reason than to test their skills.
[I am from a rough neighbourhood!]
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:48 AM   #13
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Um, seriously, what's the problem with the UK style 'swordban'? Did I miss something? Martial arts practitioners can still get permits for swords, right? So what's so terrible if they were to do something like that in Sweden?
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:17 AM   #14
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Um, seriously, what's the problem with the UK style 'swordban'? Did I miss something? Martial arts practitioners can still get permits for swords, right? So what's so terrible if they were to do something like that in Sweden?
We are fortunate that pressure groups and advisory groups were heard and exceptions put in place that allows us to continue. In another place, at another time, that might not be (have been) so.

Once a line separating legality and illegality is drawn, the newly existing line can easily be moved at the whim of politicians. Now that the line exists, it is possible, were some martial artist idiot to do something dangerous in the public eye, for the line to be moved to exclude ownership by genuine martial artists.

Making any kind of weapon illegal doesn't stop people who want to obtain one from doing so, and it doesn't stop anyone determined to use one from doing so. But law-abiding citizens, like most of us, will comply with a restricting law, even when that law unjustly penalises us for something someone else did.
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:00 AM   #15
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I totally agree with Peter: just making a weapon illegal will not stop people who want one from getting one and it will certainly not stop people from killing each other. They will always find a way and the only thing this legislation shows is that people really are "dumb, panicky animals" (to use a film quote.)

Sometimes I think that removing a limb from such dolts would be a reasonable response to their idiocy. I know that that sounds a bit 'Sharia Law'....... but if it works........
It does sound like the stereotype of shari'a law but similar punishments are also suggested in the Bible...

After all - does not the Bible suggest 'an eye for an eye' - - I am pretty sure that many fools would take note of 'legislated retribution' or 'legalised vengeance'
In the words of Mohandas K. Gandhi: "an eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind."
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:27 AM   #16
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And I never lock my apartment because a simple lock certainly won't stop anyone who is serious about getting inside
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Old 06-03-2008, 05:00 AM   #17
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Um, seriously, what's the problem with the UK style 'swordban'? Did I miss something? Martial arts practitioners can still get permits for swords, right? So what's so terrible if they were to do something like that in Sweden?
On one hand I do agree with this, we were lucky they allowed the permits to allow "real" owners to keep them, but as someone else has said the first time someone drops a clanger they'll all be gone in an instant

After saying what I have above, I was one of the many in the UK in 1997 that were forced to hand in their handgun . . a classic kneejerk reaction by the government of the time . . . I dont feel any safer in the UK post 1997 !!! the ONLY people this ban made a difference to was the lawful owners, banning a curved edge sword will not make any difference to the idiots that this ban is meant to impact on.
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:13 AM   #18
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Again I never thought I'd see something like this where I live. Hope they wont start the whole "swordban" debate here in Sweden.
I'm not surprised.
All the rest of us have known you people are crazy for years.



(You knew that was coming, so don't act surprised.)
LOL
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