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Old 04-11-2009, 01:24 PM   #1
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Hey Guys,
I was wondering if anyone is dizzy after keiko for more than a few minutes.

I talked to an accupuncturist last week, and he was telling me there is an accupuncture point about 3 fingers below the armpit that controls balance.

I'm wondering because I tend to get vertigo for weeks on end once or twice a year, and when I do Keiko I tend to get hit with a lot of really bad Do's. I've talked to doctors and their diagnosis translates into it'll keep coming back at random intervals for various lengths. So I'm trying to figure out if the accupuncturist might be right. Has anyone else had or heard of vertigo triggered by keiko?

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Old 04-11-2009, 01:29 PM   #2
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Yes, but not from doh strikes, rather, from overly aggressive men-uchi and/or bad fitting men. I also occassionally get a little dizzy not from being lumberjacked but because I've left the flaps on my men too tight to my ears. In none of those cases does it come from keiko though, it's usually from waza practice, and I can't say as I've been dizzy for much more than 5-10 minutes afterwards.

Are you sure it's not related to your ears and/or your head?
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Old 04-12-2009, 04:24 AM   #3
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Hi Eric, I was back at kendo last nite for the first time in a month and was getting pretty dizzy at points during kakari geiko....in fact I remember swooning at times! My reason for the dizziness is just poor fitness. Also, I can at times during keiko hold my breath when fighting and have to remind myself to breathe! Could they be factors?

Don't know if that helps..best of luck though. Dizziness during fighting is not fun
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Old 04-13-2009, 08:58 AM   #4
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Hey Guys,
I was wondering if anyone is dizzy after keiko for more than a few minutes.

I talked to an accupuncturist last week, and he was telling me there is an accupuncture point about 3 fingers below the armpit that controls balance.

I'm wondering because I tend to get vertigo for weeks on end once or twice a year, and when I do Keiko I tend to get hit with a lot of really bad Do's. I've talked to doctors and their diagnosis translates into it'll keep coming back at random intervals for various lengths. So I'm trying to figure out if the accupuncturist might be right. Has anyone else had or heard of vertigo triggered by keiko?

Thanks
Eric
This is interesting, because Just this past December, I was in New York with family for the holidays and I went to Kenzen Institute to train while I was there. Afterwards, I felt like maybe I had been hit overly hard by a few of the Kendoka there, but tried to pay it no mind. I flew home the next night, and when I got back, I was feeling very dizzy. My neck began hurting (feeling like too many men strikes strained it or something) and I was very off balance. It seemed like Vertigo and that was the diagnosis I was given after I wasn't able to eat food without getting nauseous, and as I kept having 'cloudy head' flashes.

I'm actually interested that someone has maybe had a similar experience and I am not alone on this. Although it definitely was horrible, haha.

This took almost a month and a half to completely clear up, and it has been holding me back from continuing with Kendo as I just moved to Miami and was going to begin at the South Florida Kendo Club, but have been nervous due to thinking that might happen again.
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Old 04-13-2009, 10:07 AM   #5
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This is interesting, because Just this past December, I was in New York with family for the holidays and I went to Kenzen Institute to train while I was there. Afterwards, I felt like maybe I had been hit overly hard by a few of the Kendoka there, but tried to pay it no mind. I flew home the next night, and when I got back, I was feeling very dizzy. My neck began hurting (feeling like too many men strikes strained it or something) and I was very off balance. It seemed like Vertigo and that was the diagnosis I was given after I wasn't able to eat food without getting nauseous, and as I kept having 'cloudy head' flashes.

I'm actually interested that someone has maybe had a similar experience and I am not alone on this. Although it definitely was horrible, haha.

This took almost a month and a half to completely clear up, and it has been holding me back from continuing with Kendo as I just moved to Miami and was going to begin at the South Florida Kendo Club, but have been nervous due to thinking that might happen again.
Those symptoms sound too scary not to see a doctor about. Don't assume you are okay like Natasha Richardson did.
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Old 04-13-2009, 10:33 AM   #6
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Those symptoms sound too scary not to see a doctor about. Don't assume you are okay like Natasha Richardson did.
I did see a doctor about it, and their diagnosis was Barotitis which was causing vertigo. It had to do with the air travel in conjunction with the head hitting from Kendo the day before and that there was a pressure imbalance in my head or something. That was what was supposedly causing the vertigo, but my neck also seemed to stem a lot of the problems since the neck pain caused tension headaches which caused more vertigo symptoms. It really sucked. I want to continue with Kendo, but I have been so nervous. I had only been in bogu for about 6 months too!
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Old 04-13-2009, 11:04 AM   #7
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How can you get injured in kendo? You've got armour on ya soft nancies.

And...and

you only hit each other with bits of oriental grass tied together. What kind of woosies are you?


Cue Iron Maiden...

.........running for the hills (duh duh, duh duh), running for my li-ife.....


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Old 04-13-2009, 06:41 PM   #8
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note to self...

in addition to NOT flying after scuba diving, do NOT fly after Kendo practice.

Actually, maybe ...don't fly after anything. :\ flying must be bad for you...

Actually that sounds sort of creepy. :\ I go to Ken Zen.... o_o

one of my Sensei's was just...err, talking about how (in the past) he used to see stars after being hit...literally...for several seconds.

but then again, my teacher in high school saw everything in green for several minutes after getting hit real hard in football as a kid.
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Old 04-15-2009, 03:00 PM   #9
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I did a little poking around google after reading your post and came across articles about vertigo being caused by calcium deposits getting knocked loose by bumps to the head. Good luck, I hope you get to the bottom of this and can continue kendo.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...ar.html?cat=68
http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/509005/
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Old 04-16-2009, 10:57 PM   #10
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thanks for the link. that really explains a lot...now i know is not only the lack of stamina that makes me dizzy during practice
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Old 04-17-2009, 03:59 AM   #11
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Well I get out of breath enough during keiko that I've felt dizzy, faint, about to puke or all of the above. However once I get my wind back it goes away. My father had the ear issue and suffered from bouts of vertigo for weeks which is what made me think of it.
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