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**YTmWSOA5** · 10-11-2009, 03:02 AM

There's a lot of complexity to nihonzake

Actually, the term is "Nihonshu".

I like sake, for the simple reason that it tastes good. I have something of a sweet tooth when it comes to liquor; don't care much for the dry stuff. But even dry sake goes down nice and smooth. Plus, sake is very much a seasonal drink: reishu (cold sake) is great in the hot, humid summer, while atsukan (hot sake) is wonderful for warming you up in the cold winters, with no central heating, and it and a kotatsu are the only things keeping you from hypothermia.

I don't particularly want to be Japanese. However, living in Japan, I appreciate the opportunities I get to drink sake. As Dave Chappelle as Samuel L. Jackson so aptly put it, "It'll get you drunk!!! Mmmm-mmmm, b****!!!"

**Liaptoono** · 10-11-2009, 04:04 AM

Sake is the perfect beverage to drink while soaking in the tub/bath/onsen, watching TV/the outside view/the sky and letting your mind wander.
Onna Nakase - excellent!

**imawlBoli** · 10-11-2009, 04:05 AM

I have no idea why folks would drink it warm, when warm booze seems pretty horrid to me.

-Charles

my sempai drinks what he calls a small jar (350ml) of warm Sake when he has a cold. Works likes a charm for him.

**alias** · 10-11-2009, 07:54 PM

Of course nothing wrong with liking Sake for the taste of it. I have no problem understand it, just like liking whiskey, cognac. etc. However, if you don't like it but pretend to like it, that is a different story.

**TobaccoNUE** · 10-11-2009, 09:49 PM

For me, it's all about having a close personal relationship with booze.

Damn, can't + rep Charles again. ...when warm booze seems pretty horrid to me. Horrors! Come now, nothing beats a well made Spanish coffee at Huber's (local restaurant) on a cold February morning.

**KlaraNovikoffaZ** · 10-11-2009, 09:51 PM

If the stores here don't import good stuff (and it is pretty darn limited...) I'd love to try the good stuff!!!

May we suggest this?

**Edqpdnuu** · 10-11-2009, 11:04 PM

Does a bear shit in the buckwheat?

**PilotJargon** · 10-12-2009, 03:05 AM

If you are Japanese and like Sake, that is fine since it is your national drink. If you are not Japanese and drink Sake, then what do you like about it? I have to admit that I don't like it much. There is much more complexity in western spirits than Sake. However, every Kendo events presents Sake and people just cheer on it. Are we japonile. Sometimes when we have Japanese Sensei come over, we bring Sake to the party. Do they have enough at home and prefer to try something else? I remembered one of the party and I brought a bottle of Hennessy VSOP and it was emptied before any other Sake. Even Japanese Sensei drank it first. Come on, just admit it that you want to be Japanese.

Want to be Japanese? you kidding me? I am a Yorkshireman, why when I am one of Gods Own would I wish to be anything else.

as we say oop 'ere. "Give tha edd a sheck lad"!

I prefer sake over European grape wine.

If the stores here don't import good stuff (and it is pretty darn limited...) I'd love to try the good stuff!!!

I am happy to have a shot of sake every day. I also like a good ale and stout.

European Grape wine? as opposed to what?

European Beeswax wine?

The whole "wanting to be Japanese" thing kind of weirds me out. You can like shepherd's pie without "wanting to be English", you can like bagpipe music without "wanting to be Scottish", you can like Celtic crosses and knotwork without "wanting to be Irish"... you can like German furniture without "wanting to be German" although people will most likely think you're insane.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with liking and appreciating another culture. Heaping scorn on people who choose to appreciate other the products of other cultures seems counterproductive in today's global society.

And frankly, we're running around in split dresses wearing smelly gear and hitting each other with bamboo sticks while screaming in foreign language -- if you were going to say someone "wanted to be Japanese", wouldn't you level that charge at a kendoka before someone who likes sake? Seriously.

I kinda liked this response, think I will posrep you if I am able..No, I have decided that I will posrep you.

Does a bear shit in the buckwheat?

I don't know; do they do this?

For me, I do worry that we have a strange habit of giving people gifts from their place of origin, so whilst Sake is often given as a gift to the Japanese, I have thought it a bit odd.

This year I gave Oshita Sensei a bottle of armagnac as he yold me previously that he does enjoy a good French Brandy and I told him about Armagnac and he said he had never tried it. Seemed the right gift to give, really!

**Frodogzzz** · 10-12-2009, 03:32 AM

For me, I do worry that we have a strange habit of giving people gifts from their place of origin

Nothing makes me groan quite as much as when I go to someone's house and they get out Coors or Budweiser for me as a gift since they're American beers. I don't even LIKE beer...

**Pashtet** · 10-12-2009, 05:16 AM

Nothing makes me groan quite as much as when I go to someone's house and they get out Coors or Budweiser for me as a gift since they're American beers. I don't even LIKE beer...

I've had people try to take me out for "the best hamburger". I appreciate the intent, but I'm not going to try and prove my "japaneseness" by taking someone out to sushi, particularly right after they just got off the plane from japan.

**WeightWatchyshow** · 10-12-2009, 05:52 AM

Not a big drinker but prefer sake and Bek Se Ju over beer, wine, other kinds of alcohol.

**DextExexy** · 10-12-2009, 08:48 AM

I recently started trying out different drinks and I'm not much a fan of any of the hard stuff yet. I've had 12 yr old scotch, and asian pair sake, and both tasted fairly similar to paint thinner to me (or at least, that's what I'd imagine paint thinner to taste like...) I did get some umeshu as a gift, and that's not too bad. Wine isn't bad, and wheat beers. I do think that me trying sake does have more to do with wanting to introduce myself to a few Japanese customs than me actually liking it. But most of the Japanese people I know drink just about anything, so I won't be trying so hard from now on.

**AntonioXYZ** · 10-13-2009, 01:08 AM

Dont drink any more..
but when I did I did like it.. chilled or warm

**scewLacysmazy** · 10-13-2009, 01:29 AM

Nigori is probably more accessible to non-sake drinkers since its sweet.

Interesting. You find it sweet? I dislike nigori because of the chalky after taste. Reminds of water you wash rice in.

While techinically sake, I guess, not a lot of people enjoy a big gulp of Il dong.

I don't know many people who enjoy gulping dong period!

I have to disagree with the OP; sake definitely has complexity. Enjoying sake can be compared to enjoying wine. If you don't like it that is fine but don't write it off. However I am sure there are a lot of Waponese out there. Although I am sure their intentions are good, I'd be pretty annoyed if everytime I went out with some Japanese people they prepared Vienna beef redhots and Old Style just because I'm Chicago. Although after 7 years here I could go for a Vienna beef dog right about now. As far as Old Style goes there is no excuse for drinking that outside of Wrigley Field.

**mralabama** · 10-13-2009, 01:38 AM

i don't remember last time i had enough sake to get drunk off that stuff. i like it warm. it's not bad, but it's not my first choice when it comes to drinking.

pete

**Enalsebeerkawl** · 10-13-2009, 02:59 AM

Warm Sake is The Perfect Winter Beverage. (Although I have to admit that Glühwein, Glögg and Punsch will keep you just as warm, just as well)

**bitymnmictada** · 10-13-2009, 03:15 AM

there was one in japan that i tried and tasted ok
but generally speaking i do not like the sake
especially the limited choice of one or two types you can get over here

**rbVmVlQ2** · 10-13-2009, 04:50 AM

There's a lot of nihonshu I like, but probably just as much I dislike. I love most the stuff from Suwa and Hida (coincidentally where I've drunk the widest variety of sake). In winter I'm never happier than when I'm drinking a flask of atsukan. As far as shochu goes, I can't drink the cheap stuff, but if it's medium to high quality (preferably imojochu) I'm happy. I'm by no means a connoisseur, but I certainly appreciate the complexity of nihonshu.

However I guess that most Japanese people really want to be Scottish, as they largely drink beer (supposedly first manufactured in Japan by Scottish and English traders) and whiskey. They're also really keen on golf. Hm...

**Joircarm** · 10-13-2009, 05:11 AM

However I guess that most Japanese people really want to be Scottish, as they largely drink beer (supposedly first manufactured in Japan by Scottish and English traders) and whiskey. They're also really keen on golf. Hm...

i don't think they want to be scottish. i think they are just planning to buy off scotland if their plan to buy off hawaii fails. they need good vacation spot with lot of scotch and golf.

pete

**skupaemauto** · 10-13-2009, 06:42 AM

I didn't vote because I do like sake and I do drink it at homes on occasion, but I wouldn't necessarily say it is my favorite alcoholic beverage (for hard spirits I would say that is a high quality tequila or a good vodka, but I also like beer and red wines). I also like shochu.

10-11-2009, 03:02 AM	#21
YTmWSOA5 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 399 Senior Member	There's a lot of complexity to nihonzake Actually, the term is "Nihonshu". I like sake, for the simple reason that it tastes good. I have something of a sweet tooth when it comes to liquor; don't care much for the dry stuff. But even dry sake goes down nice and smooth. Plus, sake is very much a seasonal drink: reishu (cold sake) is great in the hot, humid summer, while atsukan (hot sake) is wonderful for warming you up in the cold winters, with no central heating, and it and a kotatsu are the only things keeping you from hypothermia. I don't particularly want to be Japanese. However, living in Japan, I appreciate the opportunities I get to drink sake. As Dave Chappelle as Samuel L. Jackson so aptly put it, "It'll get you drunk!!! Mmmm-mmmm, b****!!!" Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2009, 04:04 AM	#22
Liaptoono Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 679 Senior Member	Sake is the perfect beverage to drink while soaking in the tub/bath/onsen, watching TV/the outside view/the sky and letting your mind wander. Onna Nakase - excellent! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2009, 04:05 AM	#23
imawlBoli Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 528 Senior Member	I have no idea why folks would drink it warm, when warm booze seems pretty horrid to me. -Charles my sempai drinks what he calls a small jar (350ml) of warm Sake when he has a cold. Works likes a charm for him. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2009, 07:54 PM	#24
alias Join Date Oct 2005 Age 76 Posts 397 Senior Member	Of course nothing wrong with liking Sake for the taste of it. I have no problem understand it, just like liking whiskey, cognac. etc. However, if you don't like it but pretend to like it, that is a different story. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2009, 09:49 PM	#25
TobaccoNUE Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 514 Senior Member	For me, it's all about having a close personal relationship with booze. Damn, can't + rep Charles again. ...when warm booze seems pretty horrid to me. Horrors! Come now, nothing beats a well made Spanish coffee at Huber's (local restaurant) on a cold February morning. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2009, 09:51 PM	#26
KlaraNovikoffaZ Join Date Oct 2005 Location USA Posts 384 Senior Member	If the stores here don't import good stuff (and it is pretty darn limited...) I'd love to try the good stuff!!! May we suggest this? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2009, 11:04 PM	#27
Edqpdnuu Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 521 Senior Member	Does a bear shit in the buckwheat? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-12-2009, 03:05 AM	#28
PilotJargon Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 344 Senior Member	If you are Japanese and like Sake, that is fine since it is your national drink. If you are not Japanese and drink Sake, then what do you like about it? I have to admit that I don't like it much. There is much more complexity in western spirits than Sake. However, every Kendo events presents Sake and people just cheer on it. Are we japonile. Sometimes when we have Japanese Sensei come over, we bring Sake to the party. Do they have enough at home and prefer to try something else? I remembered one of the party and I brought a bottle of Hennessy VSOP and it was emptied before any other Sake. Even Japanese Sensei drank it first. Come on, just admit it that you want to be Japanese. Want to be Japanese? you kidding me? I am a Yorkshireman, why when I am one of Gods Own would I wish to be anything else. as we say oop 'ere. "Give tha edd a sheck lad"! I prefer sake over European grape wine. If the stores here don't import good stuff (and it is pretty darn limited...) I'd love to try the good stuff!!! I am happy to have a shot of sake every day. I also like a good ale and stout. European Grape wine? as opposed to what? European Beeswax wine? The whole "wanting to be Japanese" thing kind of weirds me out. You can like shepherd's pie without "wanting to be English", you can like bagpipe music without "wanting to be Scottish", you can like Celtic crosses and knotwork without "wanting to be Irish"... you can like German furniture without "wanting to be German" although people will most likely think you're insane. There's absolutely nothing wrong with liking and appreciating another culture. Heaping scorn on people who choose to appreciate other the products of other cultures seems counterproductive in today's global society. And frankly, we're running around in split dresses wearing smelly gear and hitting each other with bamboo sticks while screaming in foreign language -- if you were going to say someone "wanted to be Japanese", wouldn't you level that charge at a kendoka before someone who likes sake? Seriously. I kinda liked this response, think I will posrep you if I am able..No, I have decided that I will posrep you. Does a bear shit in the buckwheat? I don't know; do they do this? For me, I do worry that we have a strange habit of giving people gifts from their place of origin, so whilst Sake is often given as a gift to the Japanese, I have thought it a bit odd. This year I gave Oshita Sensei a bottle of armagnac as he yold me previously that he does enjoy a good French Brandy and I told him about Armagnac and he said he had never tried it. Seemed the right gift to give, really! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-12-2009, 03:32 AM	#29
Frodogzzz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 535 Senior Member	For me, I do worry that we have a strange habit of giving people gifts from their place of origin Nothing makes me groan quite as much as when I go to someone's house and they get out Coors or Budweiser for me as a gift since they're American beers. I don't even LIKE beer... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-12-2009, 05:16 AM	#30
Pashtet Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 421 Senior Member	Nothing makes me groan quite as much as when I go to someone's house and they get out Coors or Budweiser for me as a gift since they're American beers. I don't even LIKE beer... I've had people try to take me out for "the best hamburger". I appreciate the intent, but I'm not going to try and prove my "japaneseness" by taking someone out to sushi, particularly right after they just got off the plane from japan. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-12-2009, 05:52 AM	#31
WeightWatchyshow Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 428 Senior Member	Not a big drinker but prefer sake and Bek Se Ju over beer, wine, other kinds of alcohol. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-12-2009, 08:48 AM	#32
DextExexy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 484 Senior Member	I recently started trying out different drinks and I'm not much a fan of any of the hard stuff yet. I've had 12 yr old scotch, and asian pair sake, and both tasted fairly similar to paint thinner to me (or at least, that's what I'd imagine paint thinner to taste like...) I did get some umeshu as a gift, and that's not too bad. Wine isn't bad, and wheat beers. I do think that me trying sake does have more to do with wanting to introduce myself to a few Japanese customs than me actually liking it. But most of the Japanese people I know drink just about anything, so I won't be trying so hard from now on. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2009, 01:08 AM	#33
AntonioXYZ Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 425 Senior Member	Dont drink any more.. but when I did I did like it.. chilled or warm Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2009, 01:29 AM	#34
scewLacysmazy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 465 Senior Member	Nigori is probably more accessible to non-sake drinkers since its sweet. Interesting. You find it sweet? I dislike nigori because of the chalky after taste. Reminds of water you wash rice in. While techinically sake, I guess, not a lot of people enjoy a big gulp of Il dong. I don't know many people who enjoy gulping dong period! I have to disagree with the OP; sake definitely has complexity. Enjoying sake can be compared to enjoying wine. If you don't like it that is fine but don't write it off. However I am sure there are a lot of Waponese out there. Although I am sure their intentions are good, I'd be pretty annoyed if everytime I went out with some Japanese people they prepared Vienna beef redhots and Old Style just because I'm Chicago. Although after 7 years here I could go for a Vienna beef dog right about now. As far as Old Style goes there is no excuse for drinking that outside of Wrigley Field. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2009, 01:38 AM	#35
mralabama Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 452 Senior Member	i don't remember last time i had enough sake to get drunk off that stuff. i like it warm. it's not bad, but it's not my first choice when it comes to drinking. pete Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2009, 02:59 AM	#36
Enalsebeerkawl Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 457 Senior Member	Warm Sake is The Perfect Winter Beverage. (Although I have to admit that Glühwein, Glögg and Punsch will keep you just as warm, just as well) Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2009, 03:15 AM	#37
bitymnmictada Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 479 Senior Member	there was one in japan that i tried and tasted ok but generally speaking i do not like the sake especially the limited choice of one or two types you can get over here Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2009, 04:50 AM	#38
rbVmVlQ2 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 463 Senior Member	There's a lot of nihonshu I like, but probably just as much I dislike. I love most the stuff from Suwa and Hida (coincidentally where I've drunk the widest variety of sake). In winter I'm never happier than when I'm drinking a flask of atsukan. As far as shochu goes, I can't drink the cheap stuff, but if it's medium to high quality (preferably imojochu) I'm happy. I'm by no means a connoisseur, but I certainly appreciate the complexity of nihonshu. However I guess that most Japanese people really want to be Scottish, as they largely drink beer (supposedly first manufactured in Japan by Scottish and English traders) and whiskey. They're also really keen on golf. Hm... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2009, 05:11 AM	#39
Joircarm Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 470 Senior Member	However I guess that most Japanese people really want to be Scottish, as they largely drink beer (supposedly first manufactured in Japan by Scottish and English traders) and whiskey. They're also really keen on golf. Hm... i don't think they want to be scottish. i think they are just planning to buy off scotland if their plan to buy off hawaii fails. they need good vacation spot with lot of scotch and golf. pete Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2009, 06:42 AM	#40
skupaemauto Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 417 Senior Member	I didn't vote because I do like sake and I do drink it at homes on occasion, but I wouldn't necessarily say it is my favorite alcoholic beverage (for hard spirits I would say that is a high quality tequila or a good vodka, but I also like beer and red wines). I also like shochu. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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