[limpoporanique]

What's wrong with regular fencing?

[ONLINEPHARMACYCHEAPILLS]

By the way, it appears that the cheapest men (the "mask") on ebogu.com is priced at $120, which is approximately 50% more than the sabre fencing mask listed on fencing.net. That's hardly extensive research, but it makes the point that you may be better served by using fencing gear, from the perspective of economies of scale.

[ROYMANgo]

1. If I were you I would first of all begin with learning seriously a "highly accepted martial art" in lack of an other word. Because it could teach you swords basics and it might convince you that there is no need inventing a new sport. But if you are still convinced of your idea after say four years in for example kendo, iaido or olympic fencing, go for your freaky idea.

2. DON`T USE KENDO-MEN! At least if those fancy sabres you are talking about are are the ones that I'm thinking of: smaller than the grill in the kendo mask. Its extemely dangerous. You could even kill someone, I imagine, if you hit the eye.

3. Why do you need a "super fashionable star wars kind of swords fight"??? Why do you have to fight in the dark? How can you instruct in the dark? Are you that skilled to teach somebody? Do you belive that there would be someone to teach?

4. If there was any rule that would have to be changed, I would say you should be allowed to do kendo "both-sided" so you can train your body equally on both side. But seriously I wouldn't change anything. (just my noobish opinion)

5. If you are still absolutely into your ehm fencing-style, please send us some youtube links with your training

I am a high school and usfa sabre coach teaching for 25 years.
I have taught fencing to people in wheelchairs and blind fencers you just have to be creative. so fencing in the dark is just more of the same. I will try to fence both sides
it's kinda of fun like the movie with princes"s bride. I am not left handed.!!!
so yes I have that skill, glow in the dark tape on head chest and arms and the glowing led light sword
why ask any kid if he would like to fight with a lightsabre in the dark. look on you tube for glow in the dark shows it's fun.!!
and no pressure to be the grand champ just fun.

[fissasste]

Hi yes I have seen the price of the head gear in kendo, but the kendo mask gives better protection than a fencing mask in a fight. stronger bar not wire like a fencing mask. we fight with kendo masks train with fencing masks so it's slower and I have a lot of fencing gear I can outfit 50 kids with fencing gear and only need to buy 8 set of kendo gear and hockey chest protectors. just for fighting bouts. money is not mine concern safe kids are. we are starting 4 or 5 clubs around the same time as i Get more kids we will fence each club vs the other. I know of no sport that is taking off as fast as this one but I still have a few months to get it set up i have my highest students helping me.
My high school sabre team has taken the midwest high school championship for 5 years in a row.
so if you have any ideas from your bouts and think they might help us thank you.
I am not very good with videos but I am sure my high school kids are when they have some I will ask them to post them on you tube and let you know. also how do you feel about your judges in your bouts and matches are they fair what do they judge just the hit or style or both, is a rep that a high rank fencer has help him win because the judge thinks he should get the point because your sloppy or not as good even if you hit first.
have you been robbed of a point from the judge do you have to fence the judge and the fencer. what could you change
to make it better. I will alway respect kendo so please do not take this game as something to replace kendo. this is for fun and mostly kids. not for honor, rank, peace of mind or zen or any of that, just fun.
who would not fight in the dark with glowing swords, only people with no fun in them.
may the smiles be with you.

[Assungusa]

I saw the video you posted and no it is nothing like that, it looks more like kendo than sabre fencing but you can fight with one or two hands it's up to you. I don't think that video was very good.
he looked funny to me. kind of like a geek.
thanks.
but did you see how many people were in his class. there is a hugh group of people who want to fence
with lightsabres. And people who fence can bring that skill to the lightsabre fight and win with ease.
that class would be cannon fodder or banta fo do vs a fencer

[SusanSazzios]

not a thing I teach and am a high school sabre coach. this is not about replacing fencing just a fun class.

[huedaanydrax]

thank you we are testing that now i am hittin the kendo mask every day 30 time after work and seeing what happens.
so far no shattering just small bend still looks straight just a small bend hard to see. this is my 3 week doing that.

[JoZertekAdv]

kendo and usfa fencing comes with baggage, like each coach and club and country has a ego and my ball my game mind set. there are stiff necks in each, most have lost the fun for fun sake. I want to teach fencing but lose the got to be the best and tell every one about it stuff. yea at this point to beat you to it I am pretty good at sabre fencing and my high school team has won the midwest high school fencing championship 5 years in a row so yea I do it too. but
this can be about fencing for fun it's got good stuff. so we will take sabre stuuf and kendo stuff and maybe stuff i have not see yet, but yea we are going to do it. I am qualified to teach fencing.
got the certs to prove it. 25 years of it. and hundreds of students over the years.

[Sadsidioribre]

Thank you for your input. yes I am a sabre coach Olympic sabre for 25 years. as far as your straight sword fight turning into a epee contest I find epee like watching paint dry. I fence epee and foil some times and some time we cross fence for fun and I win most of the time because foil fencers leave their arms open and I can disengage or beat to the arm and win and keep my distance for defense. as for epee I can cut over the top of their guard and hit with a cut as they are not use to a cut, they block a point moving at them so do not raise their guard and i can hit at will most of the time on them. and as for cutting being slow we use push cuts not baseball bat swing so I do not know what your talking about. a cut from a trained fencer is very fast. yes we have waviers and insurances and judgies to keep control.

[Intockatt]

sorry for the spelling typed too fast. each type of arena be it strip, square, or round arena. each comes with good and bad points. the mask has a opening in the back. so you have to keep your face foward. square and round arena have more room but there is more risk in that. and they take up more room so less arenas to fence in a gym

[berdyanskdotsu]

there are now so many arts and some of them off shoots from others.
in kendo there are Etiquettes and words you have to learn.
so there are other sports that came from others.
so why not light sabre sport with real skill.

[prowsnobswend]

also how do you feel about your judges in your bouts and matches are they fair

Yes.

what do they judge just the hit or style or both,

You might find this useful.

is a rep that a high rank fencer has help him win because the judge thinks he should get the point because your sloppy or not as good even if you hit first.

Can you please punctuate your sentences? I'm having difficulty understanding your question without commas and question marks, but based on a first reading, the answer would be 'no'.

have you been robbed of a point from the judge

I have not, personally.

do you have to fence the judge and the fencer.

No. You could possibly look for some kendo shiai videos on Youtube to see what it's like.

what could you change to make it better.

The rules of kendo will probably not apply to what you intend to do, since - among other things - they are closely linked to how we practise kendo. So, this question isn't particularly relevant.

[HitAttetlyTek]

so why not light sabre sport with real skill.

On a different note, probably the first time I've seen 'light sabre' and 'real' in the same sentence.

[larentont]

I am starting a lightsabre fighting club.
We use kendo masks and gloves and hockey chestprotectors pads.
The blade is made from ploycarbon plastic unbreakable.
we will use us sabre rules and change some of them just for this sport.
so they do glow and have many colors red, blue, green, yellow, orange and many others.
we can fight in the dark. it's a blast. the swords are lighter than your bamboo swords.
so if you could change any rule in your sport what would it be?
what rule do you think we would need.
thankyou for any help you can give.

You will need permission in advance from the Dark Lord of the Sith, his assistant Galen Marek or one of the other Sith Lords.

Accreditation, this is tricky, but you will need it for professional liability insurance cover. Some travel may be involved for instruction and testing of your Podracer and light sabre skills, Force Sensitivity and Sense training, all possibly confirmed by assessors using scanning devices.

Kendo gloves are not suitable, you will need gloves made from micronised iron. other wise you or your students may get injured.

I also recommend that you do not use kendo masks, because the shaft of pure energy emitted by the light sabre (or for US readers - saber) will actually get between the horizontal rungs on the mask. Of course, this may not be an issue for you if the light sabre's energy has been switched to vertical polarization. That has to be done at an authorised workship or at a Volkswagen dealer who has access to VAG-COM.

Another recommendation is to make sure that your Jedi Padawan (beginners) get a light sabre of the correct size for their body shape and skill. Many Padawan want to spend up and get a Jidai style light sabre, but they'd be better off with a Nyumon and upgrade later

You will also need a supply of Lightsaber Crystals to recharge the light sabers when they go flat. And of course, don't allow the newbies to use a light sabre of the wrong colour for their role, as that may confuse others and even offend more senior jedi.

As for fighting in the dark, that's OK for beginners and people watching, but the jedi can only see the Force, so if your students aren't practicing effectively, it won't look as good as you hope.

The rules and Jedi Code are best explained to you by Cin Dralling, Master Yoda or a jedi sensei, such as Darth Bane. Best contact them at the Galactic Republic HQ, but of course, you already know that.

To become a Jedi requires the deepest commitment and most serious mind. It is not a venture to be undertaken lightly. As such, Jedi instruction is rigidly structured and codified to enforce discipline and hinder transgression.

Good luck with your new venture into this activity, the origins of which, unlike kendo, are lost in time.

[hieklyintinee]

OH so you only can have skill with wood swords,!!!!!!

[hjyAMqqT]

LOL very good you have a wit.
Now do you have any skill in fighting with a sword. can you tell me what fighting rules you might change in your sport if any, or is your sport perfect. if it is then ok what rules when you fight with your sword do you use the most. kendo have right of way or can both fencers get points at the same time? do you have any standing at a nat level.
have you ever fenced oversea. do you have any skill vs any other sword form. do you teach kendo?
have your taught kids? how long have you been teaching. what ages have you in your class.
ok! i guess you have not a thing to share, all you got is nothing you do not know your sport very well to be able to give advice. so I guess I can just read a book and get more than any of you can share.
too bad. I am disapointed in your sport. I guess I just treat your guys when they walk in to my gym as you have treated me. funny how you get treated like you treat others.

[Enladalusange]

LOL very good you have a wit.

Thank you, I'm glad that you too enjoyed the mirth.

Now do you have any skill in fighting with a sword.

Yes, some, I have done kendo since 1988.

can you tell me what fighting rules you might change in your sport if any, or is your sport perfect. if it is then ok what rules when you fight with your sword do you use the most.

Kendo shiai and shinpan rules are quite complex, but I can't think of any rule that I would change.

kendo have right of way or can both fencers get points at the same time?

Senior kendo sensei say that (in competition) there is no "points at the same time", it is difficult to judge, very, but one sword/shinai would have landed before the other.

do you have any standing at a nat level.

Not in competion any more. Have a few medals for Au comps and for Oceania region comp.

have you ever fenced oversea.

Yes.

do you have any skill vs any other sword form.

Yes, iaido since 1996 and some jodo.

do you teach kendo?

Can and have, but currently have some very good teachers, senior to me, who are my guides.

have your taught kids?

Yes.

how long have you been teaching.

About 15 years.

what ages have you in your class.

N/a. BUt in the kendo dojo that I train in, ages are 14 to 62.

ok! i guess you have not a thing to share, all you got is nothing you do not know your sport very well to be able to give advice.

I've got plenty to share, but please don't confuse some humour with a reluctance to assist with sensible questions.

so I guess I can just read a book and get more than any of you can share.

I doubt that a book, will really give you much understanding of how to actually do kendo. That might be OK for fighting with light sabres though.

too bad. I am disapointed in your sport.

Pity, it's quite a mature, challenging and satisfying activity.

I guess I just treat your guys when they walk in to my gym as you have treated me. funny how you get treated like you treat others.

Fair enough.

But asking a question about a fictional activity that uses light sabres on a kendo forum was bound to create some humour. You said you LOL, good. So did I.

[NEronchik]

Coach Gandy, no-one doubts your ability to teach fencing and the certification that backs you up. A short Google of you confirmed you ain't just some daft kid with aspirations of jedi-ness.

However, in my humble opinion, this is a daft idea. If you disagree, then that's fine. However, budoka ain't the best people to talk to as they take their activities very serious and have little time for play-sword games. Hell, even Chanbara is chuckled at, and that is semi-recognised as legit, albeit once again, a bit daft.

Now do you have any skill in fighting with a sword.

No, people here have skill in kendo/iaido/other JSA. That isn't the same as fighting with a sword. It is nigh on impossible to practice our arts in the proper manner and gain said experience without killing or putting yourself in harms' way where you could be killed.

do you teach kendo? have your taught kids? how long have you been teaching. what ages have you in your class. ok! i guess you have not a thing to share, all you got is nothing you do not know your sport very well to be able to give advice. so I guess I can just read a book and get more than any of you can share.
too bad. I am disapointed in your sport. I guess I just treat your guys when they walk in to my gym as you have treated me. funny how you get treated like you treat others.

This is not the behaviour of a grown man who teaches others. It is the behaviour of a 13 year old samurai that we get here all the time who can't take the criticism that gets dished out when he puts his head above the parapet. Perhaps if you were less defensive and not so quick to get the hump over some barbed humour, then perhaps you need to grow thicker skin. And stop playing with toys.

[RgtrsKfR]

Thank you for your comment. I am a u.sf.a sabre coach. teaching sabre for a long time 25 Years!
We are trying out all the gear now changing it as we see what works and what will not.
We have a insurance program (They send a rep down to watch us.) Kinda high price but what you going do?
The lightsabres are pretty strong they bend a little just, a little.
Why do I think we should do it, We have 180 kids signed up at our club for may starting class.
It's fun, why do you do kendo? it's fun right?
we have spinning classes going on now. 55 kids in that class. Kids love starwars. and they get to play jedi with glowing swords. I am a very good coach, I know how to train sabre, I was hoping some of you would give me some ideas, but thats ok. I have 6 places that want to see what it's about after we get up and going.
It will catch the eye of the news papers and maybe TV. The biggest thing is where ever we have put a demo on we get a big crowd.
Olympic sabre is what I teach the lightsabres are very light they can be used with one or two hand and you can do both.
I am not sure what kinda of arena to use yet strip, square, or round.

each typy of arena strip,square or round come with good and bad points. strip amkes the movement just forward and back. but the mask has a open area in the back so we we fecne on a strip not so much for a head in the back of the head. square its more open, more room you can circle good or bad. ( the head thing.) you can hide in the corners- good or bad. round open ( the head thing again) no corners to hide in, less room in a gym to put more arenas to fence in.
we could put 5 or 6 strips in the space of 4 square or two round arenas. rules will change with the size and shape of the arena.

Hi yes I have seen the price of the head gear in kendo, but the kendo mask gives better protection than a fencing mask in a fight. stronger bar not wire like a fencing mask. we fight with kendo masks train with fencing masks so it's slower and I have a lot of fencing gear I can outfit 50 kids with fencing gear and only need to buy 8 set of kendo gear and hockey chest protectors. just for fighting bouts. money is not mine concern safe kids are. we are starting 4 or 5 clubs around the same time as i Get more kids we will fence each club vs the other. I know of no sport that is taking off as fast as this one but I still have a few months to get it set up i have my highest students helping me.
My high school sabre team has taken the midwest high school championship for 5 years in a row.
so if you have any ideas from your bouts and think they might help us thank you.
I am not very good with videos but I am sure my high school kids are when they have some I will ask them to post them on you tube and let you know. also how do you feel about your judges in your bouts and matches are they fair what do they judge just the hit or style or both, is a rep that a high rank fencer has help him win because the judge thinks he should get the point because your sloppy or not as good even if you hit first.
have you been robbed of a point from the judge do you have to fence the judge and the fencer. what could you change
to make it better. I will alway respect kendo so please do not take this game as something to replace kendo. this is for fun and mostly kids. not for honor, rank, peace of mind or zen or any of that, just fun.
who would not fight in the dark with glowing swords, only people with no fun in them.
may the smiles be with you.

These three examples - -especially the second one - - imply that this person really is imbued with the spirit of Yoda;
It is to be hoped that he [?] is better with his sabre than he is with the English language.

Perhaps he should have spent a little more time in the library [or ecen English classes] rather than the gymnasium/sports hall.

[acceraStoof]

From my experiences of Episodes 1,2 and 3 of the Star Wars trilogy I'd have thought you would have had more success regarding light sabre skills if you asked on a baseball forum. A great deal of the Jedi sword arts revolved around one's ability to hit/deflect blaster bolts. Of course being able to hit such small bolts of energy moving at massive speed also requires jedi skills that only those blessed with high midichlorian counts can achieve, however hitting them like you would a baseball seems the accepted form. Although I guess if they're aimed at your leg you may have to adopt a cricket stance.

Meanwhile did anyone ever wonder why, in tsuba-zerai, did a jedi not just turn the light sabre on and off really quickly, thus bypassing the sith defence and then splitting them in half? Star Wars Force Unleashed 2 is out next month and it looks awesome!