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Old 09-22-2010, 05:49 PM   #1
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Default Cable v Krakouer ?
There always seems to be this facination with comparing players or accomplishments along side others efforts.

I was dissapointed to read yet another one yesterday in the West... I understand Andy Krakouer's effort in the Grand Final as an incredible one... But why state it was better than Barry Cable's ?

Cable won 3 Simpson Medals in the 60's, and now we have a columnist slightly deminishing it by saying someone else's was better. Who care's ? .... Why cant both efforts be acknowledged as brilliant and leave it at that.... And who can compare when era's are so different ?

Krakouer's game was remarkable.

Cable's game's were incredible.

Just leave it as two champion footballers who did remarkable things to win their side's a premiership. Stop comparing oranges with bloody oranges....
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Old 09-22-2010, 07:34 PM   #2
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Spot on Gasman. No more to be said.
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Old 09-23-2010, 03:25 AM   #3
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Apparently Champion Data are going to watch the replay of the game and give Krakouer a rating score for the game using their AFL points system. They believe that his game might be the highest rated game since they've been keeping stats, beating Jack Darling in an Under 18s game a year or two ago
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Old 09-23-2010, 12:40 PM   #4
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Back in Cable's day the WAFL was on pretty well equal merits with the VFL or perhaps a shade under....today the WAFL is a light year away in terms of comparison with the AFL.......but hey one can only do well with the opposition they face......the proof will be next year when Krakouer plays AFL.......he has already played 100 games plus with little fan fare......can't see him changing it overnight in 2011.
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Old 09-23-2010, 03:37 PM   #5
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Krakouer's game was legendary.

So was Cable's.

Comparing them is just stupid and a way to sell papers... Nothing else.
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Old 09-23-2010, 05:55 PM   #6
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i do not follow swans or perth but get a grip people.

if you say to barry cable (for those lucky enough to have seen him play) we all have vision of greatness and how he could impact a game - that is all he is saying, that for one match no one else on the ground totally controlled the outcome of that game by their individual brilliance.

krakouer is not a barry cable, never will be but the brilliance of his performance is visually described by reference to barry cable. he could have said krakouer had a fantastic match, yeah ok lots a players do so what. by saying barry cable i immediately visualise cable playing - that's all it is.
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:08 PM   #7
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The headline read : SWANS STAR'S GRAND FINAL HEROICS BETTER THAN CABLE'S

Dunno what the hell you were reading... The headline is pretty basic english mate.
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Old 09-24-2010, 04:46 PM   #8
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i'll cop that gasman, though have not seen the article and no one said it was a headline.

it certainly is a big call if that was the headline. but i still think its a great illustration of how well he must have played. and i still do not think it denigrates barry cable in anyway.
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Old 09-24-2010, 05:47 PM   #9
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The article is trying to convey just how powerful his game was... But the headline was disrespectful and not accurate.

And those who have actually seen Cable will know its just an article headline, produced by an idiot.

Cable in his prime was a machine. Much like Krakouer is now for sure. Both champs and none neccassarily better than the other.... And how would players of today go with heavier boots that went up over their ankles ?

That is why comparing era's is pointless and an argument that will never attain an 100% answer.
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:24 PM   #10
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gasman take your point. cable is truly in a category of not too many footballers you would call a champion. unfortunately, the media and supporters are generous tagging players as a champion these days, they maybe very good or even exceptional footballers but they are not champions.

krakouer may become a truly excellent player however i doubt very much whether he will match cable.

wrt the newspaper article as i said haven't read it and did not see the game but it did give me an appreciation of how well krakouer must have played and the influence he had on the game.
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:58 PM   #11
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Its a shame you didnt get to the game rpt1au.... Like you I dont follow either team, but I was lucky enough to be present and witness one of the greatest Grand Finals and best individual efforts by a player.

The people I went with are just "casual" followers (1 had not been to a game all year). And they could not believe how much the standard of WAFL had improved from 10 or so years ago. It was a talking point all the way home in the car, and these blokes have been watching AFL at Subi all year. They were as enthralled in the game as I had ever seen and I would bet many of them will be attending a few more local games next year, just based on that great game....

This is why the WAFL simply must do more to fill the 15,000 or so empty seats on Grand Final day. It is an investment in the future of the WAFL. I cannot understand why they cant see it.... A massive opportunity was missed again, and why the hundreds of Junior footy clubs are not allocated at least 10,000 seats free of charge is beyond me. I have been saying it for years and we continually see thousands of empty seats at the City end of the ground. If they are worried about giving too many tickets away, think of the 10,000 or so kids that would not normally have gone and how much they spend when they are there.... $10 per kid (and given the prices, thats lenient) would be over $100,000 extra income for the day. And the WAFL would get a percentage of that.
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Old 09-24-2010, 10:49 PM   #12
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Champion Data have done their analysis of Krakouer's game, here's the details (how's the final quarter stats?!?!)...

Krakouer's 41 possessions and four goals earnt him 290 SuperCoach points. To put it in perspective, 150 is a massive score.

In the WAFL Grand Final, he had 41 touches, 29 of them kicks, 24 contested possessions, eight clearances, six tackles, four goals three, two score assists and 13 score involvements.

He had 13 disposals, eight contested possessions, three clearances, one goal assist, and three of Swan Districts' five goals for the term.

The biggest Supercoach game Champion Data has recorded at AFL level is Nathan Buckley's 267 points in Round 13, 2001, for 37 touches, seven tackles and and two goals.
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