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**Bvghbopz** · 11-08-2005, 02:45 PM

One week after the new terrorist laws were presented in parliament, laws that will give virtually unlimited powers to the police and government, among them shoot to kill on suspicion, being put in jail for 12 months for talking against the government, etc, etc, last night state and federal police raid, arrest and shoot terrorist suspects, on what looked like mass operations on homes in Melbourne and Sydney.

Is it just me, but what they showed on TV that was 'evidence' was bullshit, and things that you would generally find in a persons home anyway?
And in one case, they arrested the 'suspects' because they bought laboratory equipment, and they happened to ask the sellers if they had chemicals too? So because of that question, and of course because they looked like arabs, they get arrested?
I hope that they will have or fabricate better evidence than that in court, otherwise watch the outcry!

It is just a bit 'convenient' how the government has trouble passing the new terrorism act, and this largest ever anti terorism operation happens just as the act is being debated in parliament!

Oh yes, and how funny was the list of the people that they arrested?
The list read something like 15 names all sounding like Ahmed Hamdullah, Hassan Achmat, etc, and the last name was Shane Kent? What the hell was that last one doing on that list? Or did they put him there to show that the police is not racist and not just arresting arabs?
Kind of reminded me of Robin Williams in his stand up show describing the suspect passenger lists on planes - multiple arabic names followed by one english name.

**sherrferris** · 11-12-2005, 07:21 AM

That is never good for anyone. The government should exist with the consent of the people. Once a government begins to violate the freedoms of the people I believe we have the right to remove it.

**surefireinvest** · 11-12-2005, 10:41 AM

That is never good for anyone. The government should exist with the consent of the people. Once a government begins to violate the freedoms of the people I believe we have the right to remove it.

Originally Posted by STRYFE

The problem is that in countries like Australia, the Goverment has slowly been removing all weapons from the citizens, so now, unless you have a security firm, are a cop or are in the army, you don't even know what a gun looks like.

**CDCL7WKJ** · 11-12-2005, 05:11 PM

I love to practice shooting and own many firearms. I'll bet you'd be nearly as enthusiastic about going to the range as you would the highway in the FAST, FAST, lane!

**Wluwsdtn** · 11-13-2005, 01:52 AM

I love to practice shooting and own many firearms. I'll bet you'd be nearly as enthusiastic about going to the range as you would the highway in the FAST, FAST, lane!

Originally Posted by STRYFE

Oh, I love the range

I have a CZ75 Compact 9mm, .357 S&W chromed, .38Special Colt and a Browning Vest Pocket .25 S/A (you don't have those in the US as they are banned there - it's so small, it fits in the pocket of a suit vest! or in your jocks if you prefer)
Concealed handgun licence due to the bodyguarding company I have.

**untostaronaf** · 11-13-2005, 07:54 AM

Someone close to me teaches those classes! So, if I visit Aussie I suppose I'll have to apply for a temporary? I am not sure how that will work or if it will.

**excivaamome** · 11-14-2005, 12:07 AM

Someone close to me teaches those classes! So, if I visit Aussie I suppose I'll have to apply for a temporary? I am not sure how that will work or if it will.

Originally Posted by STRYFE

Temporary gun licence? They dont' exist. And you will have no hope getting one unless you have been here for quite a long time, etc.

**Misiotoagodia** · 11-14-2005, 12:18 AM

I'll bet that would be a no no as well!

**goctorsurger** · 11-14-2005, 02:20 AM

I'll bet that would be a no no as well!

Originally Posted by STRYFE

Hell no. The only people that can have those are bodyguards and owners of security companies. Theory is the owner can carry one as if he gets called to an emergency that one of his workers is in.
Workers, can only carry during work hours. Workers being security guards/bodyguards. And that's only in certain states.

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11-08-2005, 02:45 PM	#1
Bvghbopz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 528 Senior Member	Oh dear One week after the new terrorist laws were presented in parliament, laws that will give virtually unlimited powers to the police and government, among them shoot to kill on suspicion, being put in jail for 12 months for talking against the government, etc, etc, last night state and federal police raid, arrest and shoot terrorist suspects, on what looked like mass operations on homes in Melbourne and Sydney. Is it just me, but what they showed on TV that was 'evidence' was bullshit, and things that you would generally find in a persons home anyway? And in one case, they arrested the 'suspects' because they bought laboratory equipment, and they happened to ask the sellers if they had chemicals too? So because of that question, and of course because they looked like arabs, they get arrested? I hope that they will have or fabricate better evidence than that in court, otherwise watch the outcry! It is just a bit 'convenient' how the government has trouble passing the new terrorism act, and this largest ever anti terorism operation happens just as the act is being debated in parliament! Oh yes, and how funny was the list of the people that they arrested? The list read something like 15 names all sounding like Ahmed Hamdullah, Hassan Achmat, etc, and the last name was Shane Kent? What the hell was that last one doing on that list? Or did they put him there to show that the police is not racist and not just arresting arabs? Kind of reminded me of Robin Williams in his stand up show describing the suspect passenger lists on planes - multiple arabic names followed by one english name. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-12-2005, 07:21 AM	#2
sherrferris Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 605 Senior Member	It scares me when government has too much power. That is never good for anyone. The government should exist with the consent of the people. Once a government begins to violate the freedoms of the people I believe we have the right to remove it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-12-2005, 10:41 AM	#3
surefireinvest Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 392 Senior Member	That is never good for anyone. The government should exist with the consent of the people. Once a government begins to violate the freedoms of the people I believe we have the right to remove it. Originally Posted by STRYFE The problem is that in countries like Australia, the Goverment has slowly been removing all weapons from the citizens, so now, unless you have a security firm, are a cop or are in the army, you don't even know what a gun looks like. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-12-2005, 05:11 PM	#4
CDCL7WKJ Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 472 Senior Member	That must suck! I love to practice shooting and own many firearms. I'll bet you'd be nearly as enthusiastic about going to the range as you would the highway in the FAST, FAST, lane! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-13-2005, 01:52 AM	#5
Wluwsdtn Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 596 Senior Member	I love to practice shooting and own many firearms. I'll bet you'd be nearly as enthusiastic about going to the range as you would the highway in the FAST, FAST, lane! Originally Posted by STRYFE Oh, I love the range I have a CZ75 Compact 9mm, .357 S&W chromed, .38Special Colt and a Browning Vest Pocket .25 S/A (you don't have those in the US as they are banned there - it's so small, it fits in the pocket of a suit vest! or in your jocks if you prefer) Concealed handgun licence due to the bodyguarding company I have. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-13-2005, 07:54 AM	#6
untostaronaf Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 448 Senior Member	Cool! Someone close to me teaches those classes! So, if I visit Aussie I suppose I'll have to apply for a temporary? I am not sure how that will work or if it will. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-14-2005, 12:07 AM	#7
excivaamome Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 381 Senior Member	Someone close to me teaches those classes! So, if I visit Aussie I suppose I'll have to apply for a temporary? I am not sure how that will work or if it will. Originally Posted by STRYFE Temporary gun licence? They dont' exist. And you will have no hope getting one unless you have been here for quite a long time, etc. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-14-2005, 12:18 AM	#8
Misiotoagodia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 610 Senior Member	A temporary concealed carry permit. I'll bet that would be a no no as well! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-14-2005, 02:20 AM	#9
goctorsurger Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 425 Senior Member	I'll bet that would be a no no as well! Originally Posted by STRYFE Hell no. The only people that can have those are bodyguards and owners of security companies. Theory is the owner can carry one as if he gets called to an emergency that one of his workers is in. Workers, can only carry during work hours. Workers being security guards/bodyguards. And that's only in certain states. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-27-2018, 05:27 PM	#11
paugom Join Date Sep 2018 Posts 6 Junior Member	This is a very interesting post and I have learned so much by going through it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Préstamos rápidos
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