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Old 06-29-2006, 03:30 PM   #1
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With the Magic now I'd have to say over 10 a game easily.
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Old 06-29-2006, 03:33 PM   #2
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This is funny. JJ isn't going to average 3 made 3 pointers per game? Not to mention him getting to the line and being automatic from there. Most people can't shoot in the NBA...he'll have a good long career and will average over 15 points for his career. I'd bet a lot of money on that.
I'm not particularly a JJ fan, but I agree with this post pretty much 100%.
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Old 06-29-2006, 03:33 PM   #3
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With the Magic now I'd have to say over 10 a game easily.
If his back and bottle don't become an issue
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Old 06-29-2006, 03:37 PM   #4
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Ben Gordon doesn't D up shit. Redick was pretty clutch last night...and always the one teams defend against having to foul at the end of the game...that's just a weapon for any NBA team expecially these days. Oh yeah...Ben Gordon averages 16 points per game.
JJ Redick has about 1/8 the athleticism Ben Gordon does. JJ can't separate from defenders, and unless someone starts drawing constant double teams to open up the court, he won't be getting many set shots. He isn't quick enough and sure isn't strong enough. If JJ is forced to put the ball on the floor (like he will be) I promise you he'll get stifled quickly. If JJ averages 15 ppg for his career I'd be incredibly surprised. I don't see any chance of it.
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Old 06-29-2006, 03:39 PM   #5
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I'm not particularly a JJ fan, but I agree with this post pretty much 100%.
I think it's hard to say he'll average 3 treys a game. The only player in the NBA to do it last year was Ray Allen and as we all know, he got game.
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Old 06-29-2006, 03:41 PM   #6
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JJ Redick has about 1/8 the athleticism Ben Gordon does. JJ can't separate from defenders, and unless someone starts drawing constant double teams to open up the court, he won't be getting many set shots. He isn't quick enough and sure isn't strong enough. If JJ is forced to put the ball on the floor (like he will be) I promise you he'll get stifled quickly. If JJ averages 15 ppg for his career I'd be incredibly surprised. I don't see any chance of it.
Note: He got drafted by the Magic, Jameer can drive and kick to him and Howard is a player that in time will be commanding double teams.
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Old 06-29-2006, 03:43 PM   #7
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I think it's hard to say he'll average 3 treys a game. The only player in the NBA to do it last year was Ray Allen and as we all know, he got game.
Maybe, maybe not. We know he can shoot. He'd only have to average 3 treys per game to match the topic question of 10.0ppg. There's no doubt he'll average at least a couple J's per game too. Add in foul line opportunities, and I really think he'll average over 15.0 for his career and over 10.0 in his first season.

Raw talent. I'm sorry, but you just can't under estimate his. The kid can shoot the ball better than 80% of those in the NBA already. If he averages 15 mpg in his rookie season, he'll average 10 ppg.
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Old 06-29-2006, 03:44 PM   #8
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Maybe, maybe not. We know he can shoot. He'd only have to average 3 treys per game to match the topic question of 10.0ppg. There's no doubt he'll average at least a couple J's per game too. Add in foul line opportunities, and I really think he'll average over 15.0 for his career and over 10.0 in his first season.

Raw talent. I'm sorry, but you just can't under estimate his. The kid can shoot the ball better than 80% of those in the NBA already. If he averages 15 mpg in his rookie season, he'll average 10 ppg.
I disputed none of that...
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Old 06-29-2006, 04:03 PM   #9
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anyone remember danny ferry when he played for spurs, camped out and when left open he'd a hit shot, but that was ALL he could do

yeah, thats JJ
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Old 06-29-2006, 04:03 PM   #10
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Note: He got drafted by the Magic, Jameer can drive and kick to him and Howard is a player that in time will be commanding double teams.
Howard is not going to get constant double teams at all. Bosh doesn't even draw doubles and he's far more advanced offensively. Nelson is a good point guard, but he can't make up for a lack of athleticism. I don't even think JJ will be as good as Steve Kerr, both being similar players, because JJ's shot can falter. I saw him in the tourney in Atlanta, and he looked bad. You put a taller defender on him and you can easily throw off his shot, you put a quick defender on him and you'll make him force up bad shots. Put a guy like Iguodala (just that type of player, not necessarily him) and JJ doesn't have a prayer unless the game gets into a frenzied pace and defense is at a minimum. IMO there's not a chance he spends his career as a regular starter.
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Old 06-29-2006, 04:07 PM   #11
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trajan langdon, the alaskan assasasin, drafted 11th overall by cavs, known for his shooting

is he still in the leauge?
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Old 06-29-2006, 04:10 PM   #12
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trajan langdon, the alaskan assasasin, drafted 11th overall by cavs, known for his shooting

is he still in the leauge?
Can't say he is.

Kyle Korver - drafted 52nd overall by the New Jersey Nets, known for his shooting.

Is he still in the league?
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Old 06-29-2006, 04:13 PM   #13
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Can't say he is.

Kyle Korver - drafted 52nd overall by the New Jersey Nets, known for his shooting.

Is he still in the league?
Barely.
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Old 06-29-2006, 04:13 PM   #14
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korver wasnt a duke player.

creighton rules...
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Old 06-29-2006, 04:13 PM   #15
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If he goes to the right team he could average 15 points as a 6th man or starting SG. He will have to be hidden on D since he isn't athletic enough to guard pretty much everybody in the NBA.
Zone defense and the no touch rules will greatly help players like Reddick.
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Old 06-29-2006, 04:15 PM   #16
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korver wasnt a duke player.

creighton rules...
Sorry, didn't know the comparisons were only supposed to be limited to showing one side of something.
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Old 06-29-2006, 04:18 PM   #17
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shouldnt this be on the NBA board?
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Old 06-29-2006, 04:29 PM   #18
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Sorry, didn't know the comparisons were only supposed to be limited to showing one side of something.
how tall is korver?
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Old 06-29-2006, 05:38 PM   #19
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Howard is not going to get constant double teams at all. Bosh doesn't even draw doubles and he's far more advanced offensively. Nelson is a good point guard, but he can't make up for a lack of athleticism. I don't even think JJ will be as good as Steve Kerr, both being similar players, because JJ's shot can falter. I saw him in the tourney in Atlanta, and he looked bad. You put a taller defender on him and you can easily throw off his shot, you put a quick defender on him and you'll make him force up bad shots. Put a guy like Iguodala (just that type of player, not necessarily him) and JJ doesn't have a prayer unless the game gets into a frenzied pace and defense is at a minimum. IMO there's not a chance he spends his career as a regular starter.
JJ will rarely be guarded by the best defender on the court -- unless he really breaks out and is better than any of us imagine. And sure, he goes through some slumps, but they are few and far between.

My best comparison would be Wally Szczerbiak. Wally is a couple inches taller, but he too is nothing more than a shooter. Can't handle the ball and can't really defend. But he does well for himself when put in the right positions. JJ has a great midrange jumper and gives great ball fakes.

As for Steve Kerr , it isn't out of the possibility that he'll be nothing more than a 3-point shooter who comes off the bench, but he is taller, more physical and faster than Kerr ever was. I think he'll be a little more than that.

I don't think JJ is going to be a superstar by any means, but I think he'll be a productive player in the NBA. There are a ton of players who can't play a lick of defense, so that doesn't necessarily worry me, although he'll have to work his tail off to prove he can at least stay with guys. But look at our reigning MVP -- terrible defender.

Lastly, no one can deny that the kid has heart and is one tough cookie. From all accounts, including commentators, opposing coaches (Gary Williams and Roy Williams to name a couple) and opposing players, it has been said that he took the worst abuse of anyone they had ever seen. Roy Williams is even quoted as saying that he has never admired or respected anyone more than JJ because of all the crap he takes, yet keeps on playing his rear off. At least you know he won't buckle under the pressure because he won't be asked to do anything nearly as much as he was asked to do at Duke.
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Old 06-29-2006, 05:46 PM   #20
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JJ will rarely be guarded by the best defender on the court -- unless he really breaks out and is better than any of us imagine. And sure, he goes through some slumps, but they are few and far between.

My best comparison would be Wally Szczerbiak. Wally is a couple inches taller, but he too is nothing more than a shooter. Can't handle the ball and can't really defend. But he does well for himself when put in the right positions. JJ has a great midrange jumper and gives great ball fakes.

As for Steve Kerr , it isn't out of the possibility that he'll be nothing more than a 3-point shooter who comes off the bench, but he is taller, more physical and faster than Kerr ever was. I think he'll be a little more than that.

I don't think JJ is going to be a superstar by any means, but I think he'll be a productive player in the NBA. There are a ton of players who can't play a lick of defense, so that doesn't necessarily worry me, although he'll have to work his tail off to prove he can at least stay with guys. But look at our reigning MVP -- terrible defender.

Lastly, no one can deny that the kid has heart and is one tough cookie. From all accounts, including commentators, opposing coaches (Gary Williams and Roy Williams to name a couple) and opposing players, it has been said that he took the worst abuse of anyone they had ever seen. Roy Williams is even quoted as saying that he has never admired or respected anyone more than JJ because of all the crap he takes, yet keeps on playing his rear off. At least you know he won't buckle under the pressure because he won't be asked to do anything nearly as much as he was asked to do at Duke.
Most of the NBA's mediocre defenders could easily wrap up JJ. He can work as hard as he wants, but the level of athleticism in the NBA is so incredible that he'll always be many steps behind the competition. Set shots are all he'll have, and when he's on the court, teams will be very aware of them. I don't see him averaging more than 6-9 ppg for his career.
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