baker arrested...again... - DiscussWorldIssues - Socio-Economic Religion and Political Uncensored Debate

**houkbsdov** · 06-19-2007, 08:13 PM

the guy just can't get his shit together...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2909257

NORWICH, Conn. -- Former NBA All-Star Vin Baker, whose 14-year NBA career was marred by bouts of depression and alcoholism, was charged early Tuesday with drunken driving after leaving a casino.

Baker

The 35-year-old Baker was spotted driving erratically after leaving Foxwoods Resort Casino, according to a state police report. He failed a sobriety test and was charged with driving while impaired.
State police spokesman Lt. J. Paul Vance described Baker's demeanor as cooperative.
A four-time All-Star forward who attended the University of Hartford, Baker averaged 15.0 points and 7.4 rebounds in the NBA.
The 6-foot-11 forward was a member of the gold medal-winning Olympic team in 2000 and enjoyed his best seasons with Milwaukee and Seattle.
Baker's alcoholism forced the Boston Celtics to cut him midway through the 2003-04 season. He later admitted drinking in his hotel room after playing poorly and showing up to practice with alcohol on his breath.
He also played for New York, Houston and the Los Angeles Clippers before being released by Minnesota six games into the 2006-07 season.
Baker was released on $500 bond and was due in court June 26.

**bettingonosports** · 06-19-2007, 09:01 PM

Sad story, hes developed a disease and can't shake it...I hope one day he can get through it

**JesikaFclq** · 06-19-2007, 09:51 PM

damn alcoholics...they never learn..drinking is a choice, he likes to drinks therefore he does...

**Pyuvjzwf** · 06-19-2007, 10:16 PM

We shop at the same packy.

**Kausilwf** · 06-19-2007, 10:43 PM

damn alcoholics...they never learn..drinking is a choice, he likes to drinks therefore he does...

At the beginning it's a choice, but at the end it sure as hell isn't. At the end, there's nothing to like about drinking. At the end it's an extremely physical addiction.

**Atmotteenrift** · 06-19-2007, 10:51 PM

At the beginning it's a choice, but at the end it sure as hell isn't. At the end, there's nothing to like about drinking. At the end it's an extremely physical addiction.

Agree 100%

**famosetroie** · 06-19-2007, 10:57 PM

At the beginning it's a choice, but at the end it sure as hell isn't. At the end, there's nothing to like about drinking. At the end it's an extremely physical addiction.

it takes people over, many lives have been ruined...my uncle cant shake it and he even has seizures which he cant mix his medication and booze, he's figured out the bare minimum med's he can take to "control" his seizures and still drink...he doesnt have it to an exact science yet.

the good news is he no longer drinks inside the house, he now "hides" it by drinking in the garage or his old beat up camper

**Idorsearogele** · 06-19-2007, 11:59 PM

damn alcoholics...they never learn..drinking is a choice, he likes to drinks therefore he does...

ironic that someone named 'hoooooraybeer' has no sympathy for an alcoholic.

**Storwaytozy** · 06-20-2007, 12:01 AM

damn alcoholics...they never learn..drinking is a choice, he likes to drinks therefore he does...

You are incorrect.

Real alcoholics lost the power of choice

It is difficult to understand for a "Normal" person.

**robinthesearchmasterh** · 06-20-2007, 12:02 AM

At the beginning it's a choice, but at the end it sure as hell isn't. At the end, there's nothing to like about drinking. At the end it's an extremely physical addiction.

The physical allergy ONLY occurs when i put alcohol in my body.

Then the phenomenma of craving kicks in....

The mental obsession however is a wicked bad thing or can be,

Once the spiritual malady is overcome one can easily RECOVER from alcoholism.

**unsamiSlini** · 06-20-2007, 12:11 AM

The physical allergy ONLY occurs when i put alcohol in my body.

Then the phenomenma of craving kicks in....

The mental obsession however is a wicked bad thing or can be,

Once the spiritual malady is overcome one can easily RECOVER from alcoholism.

thats a tough thing to kick, kudos to you for being able to overcome.

**bZEUWO4F** · 06-20-2007, 12:18 AM

thats a tough thing to kick, kudos to you for being able to overcome.

I had VERY little to do with it honestly............A bit of willingness......................God is the reason....

**qzgCVHex** · 06-20-2007, 01:43 AM

You are incorrect.

Real alcoholics lost the power of choice

It is difficult to understand for a "Normal" person.

You and Ryno said it best, after time the brain begins to act differently and you can't control your impulses once you begin. I drink and am able to control it, but am very aware of the effects of continued "mis"use as its part of what i study...

Both very well put, and Hoooray has no idea what hes talking about

**Kk21pwa9** · 06-20-2007, 01:44 AM

You and Ryno said it best, after time the brain begins to act differently and you can't control your impulses once you begin. I drink and am able to control it, but am very aware of the affects of continued "mis"use as its part of what i study...

Both very well put, and Hoooray has no idea what hes talking about

It's as simple as some people HAVE the allergy and some others don't.

And then there are the people who can cross the line...

There was never a line for me.

06-19-2007, 08:13 PM	#1
houkbsdov Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 709 Senior Member	baker arrested...again... the guy just can't get his shit together... http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2909257 NORWICH, Conn. -- Former NBA All-Star Vin Baker, whose 14-year NBA career was marred by bouts of depression and alcoholism, was charged early Tuesday with drunken driving after leaving a casino. Baker The 35-year-old Baker was spotted driving erratically after leaving Foxwoods Resort Casino, according to a state police report. He failed a sobriety test and was charged with driving while impaired. State police spokesman Lt. J. Paul Vance described Baker's demeanor as cooperative. A four-time All-Star forward who attended the University of Hartford, Baker averaged 15.0 points and 7.4 rebounds in the NBA. The 6-foot-11 forward was a member of the gold medal-winning Olympic team in 2000 and enjoyed his best seasons with Milwaukee and Seattle. Baker's alcoholism forced the Boston Celtics to cut him midway through the 2003-04 season. He later admitted drinking in his hotel room after playing poorly and showing up to practice with alcohol on his breath. He also played for New York, Houston and the Los Angeles Clippers before being released by Minnesota six games into the 2006-07 season. Baker was released on $500 bond and was due in court June 26. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-19-2007, 09:01 PM	#2
bettingonosports Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 498 Senior Member	Sad story, hes developed a disease and can't shake it...I hope one day he can get through it Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-19-2007, 09:51 PM	#3
JesikaFclq Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 428 Senior Member	damn alcoholics...they never learn..drinking is a choice, he likes to drinks therefore he does... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-19-2007, 10:16 PM	#4
Pyuvjzwf Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 428 Senior Member	We shop at the same packy. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-19-2007, 10:43 PM	#5
Kausilwf Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 438 Senior Member	damn alcoholics...they never learn..drinking is a choice, he likes to drinks therefore he does... At the beginning it's a choice, but at the end it sure as hell isn't. At the end, there's nothing to like about drinking. At the end it's an extremely physical addiction. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-19-2007, 10:51 PM	#6
Atmotteenrift Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 495 Senior Member	At the beginning it's a choice, but at the end it sure as hell isn't. At the end, there's nothing to like about drinking. At the end it's an extremely physical addiction. Agree 100% Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-19-2007, 10:57 PM	#7
famosetroie Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 406 Senior Member	At the beginning it's a choice, but at the end it sure as hell isn't. At the end, there's nothing to like about drinking. At the end it's an extremely physical addiction. it takes people over, many lives have been ruined...my uncle cant shake it and he even has seizures which he cant mix his medication and booze, he's figured out the bare minimum med's he can take to "control" his seizures and still drink...he doesnt have it to an exact science yet. the good news is he no longer drinks inside the house, he now "hides" it by drinking in the garage or his old beat up camper Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-19-2007, 11:59 PM	#8
Idorsearogele Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 435 Senior Member	damn alcoholics...they never learn..drinking is a choice, he likes to drinks therefore he does... ironic that someone named 'hoooooraybeer' has no sympathy for an alcoholic. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-20-2007, 12:01 AM	#9
Storwaytozy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 480 Senior Member	damn alcoholics...they never learn..drinking is a choice, he likes to drinks therefore he does... You are incorrect. Real alcoholics lost the power of choice It is difficult to understand for a "Normal" person. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-20-2007, 12:02 AM	#10
robinthesearchmasterh Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 390 Senior Member	At the beginning it's a choice, but at the end it sure as hell isn't. At the end, there's nothing to like about drinking. At the end it's an extremely physical addiction. The physical allergy ONLY occurs when i put alcohol in my body. Then the phenomenma of craving kicks in.... The mental obsession however is a wicked bad thing or can be, Once the spiritual malady is overcome one can easily RECOVER from alcoholism. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-20-2007, 12:11 AM	#11
unsamiSlini Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 381 Senior Member	The physical allergy ONLY occurs when i put alcohol in my body. Then the phenomenma of craving kicks in.... The mental obsession however is a wicked bad thing or can be, Once the spiritual malady is overcome one can easily RECOVER from alcoholism. thats a tough thing to kick, kudos to you for being able to overcome. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-20-2007, 12:18 AM	#12
bZEUWO4F Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 489 Senior Member	thats a tough thing to kick, kudos to you for being able to overcome. I had VERY little to do with it honestly............A bit of willingness......................God is the reason.... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-20-2007, 01:43 AM	#13
qzgCVHex Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 467 Senior Member	You are incorrect. Real alcoholics lost the power of choice It is difficult to understand for a "Normal" person. You and Ryno said it best, after time the brain begins to act differently and you can't control your impulses once you begin. I drink and am able to control it, but am very aware of the effects of continued "mis"use as its part of what i study... Both very well put, and Hoooray has no idea what hes talking about Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-20-2007, 01:44 AM	#14
Kk21pwa9 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 506 Senior Member	You and Ryno said it best, after time the brain begins to act differently and you can't control your impulses once you begin. I drink and am able to control it, but am very aware of the affects of continued "mis"use as its part of what i study... Both very well put, and Hoooray has no idea what hes talking about It's as simple as some people HAVE the allergy and some others don't. And then there are the people who can cross the line... There was never a line for me. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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