[herbalviagra]

Originally posted by SlasH:
I can't see anyone actually want to see Tim Duncan play. He's so god damn boring.

I can't see why anyone would want to vote for someone like duncan or ming who would pass up a dunk for a skyhook.

I hope Duncan doesn't make it.


*...SlasH...* I actually enjoy the versatility of Tim Duncans' game. He can shoot from the outside, score on the inside or hammer home a crowd pleasing dunk. Just because he chooses not to do the latter on a consistent basis shouldn't prevent him from going to the All-Star game. You said that the All-Star game is for the fans, well, if he was so boring, and no one wants to see him play, why is he one of the leaders among FAN voting every single season? I mean I am a Laker fan and I personally find Shaq's game boring (all he really does is shoot 5-foot turnarounds and dunks). But it brought 3 titles and 4 trips to the Finals, so no matter how boring it seemed, it brought victories, which to ME at least, is all that matters when it comes for supporting a team.

[ January 28, 2005, 05:45 PM: Message edited by: Triple X ]

[WournGona]

Originally posted by Michaels Forever:
Iverson's last game against Heat: 45 points 11 assists and 1 turnover. Those are out of this world numbers. He's been putting up similar numbers most of the season now. He is top in the NBA in scoring and top 5 in assists and steals(i think). Like him or not that man deserves a spot on the All-Star team. I couldn't agree with you more. Everyone has been riding Lebron James' jock (and rightfully so). But its as if Iverson has fallen off the face of the earth. His scoring is actually down from last season, but, his field goal percentage is up (not by much, but its still up), his turnovers are down, and he is averaging over 7 assists for the first time since his rookie season. His team is currently 2 games under .500, and with a favorable schedule in the month of February, Iverson may be considered an MVP candidate by the All-Star break.

[ January 26, 2005, 05:20 PM: Message edited by: Triple X ]

[ballingham]

Originally posted by SlasH:
Excactly, I knew I listed too many, but there are sooo many players this year who are dishing out numbers deserving of the all star team. Like Q-Rich, Chauncey Billups, Ray Allan, Okafur and Mohammad and I won't be surprised if none of those guys make it, to make room for Yao "Boring" Ming and Tim Duncan...

Later oN
*...SlasH...* Well you have to look at it from both a statistical and popularity standpoint. Quentin Richardson is having an excellent season, however, how likely is it that he will get more votes than say, Tracy McGrady, Kobe Bryant, Shawn Marion and even Manu Ginobili (all guys who play guard/forward like Richardson).

But I look at a guy like Nazr Mohammed and I cannot honestly say that he's better than Zydrunas Ilgauskas. And since there can only be one back-up center, I would have to go with Z, but any other year, Mohammed would be there. But that's just my opinion.

And IMO, its not about whether a player is boring or not, its whether or not they get it done, and that's exactly what Tim Duncan does.

[boleroman]

East All Stars

PG: Dwayne Wade
SG: Lebron James
SF: Vince Carter
PF: Jermaine O'Neal
C: Shaquille O'Neal

Bench: Michael Redd, Steve Francis, Paul Pierce, Jamaal Tinsley, Ben Wallace

West All-Stars

PG: Steve Nash
SG: Ray Allen
SF: Shawn Marion
PF: Kevin Garnett
C: Amare Stoudmaire

Bench: Manu Ginobili, Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant, Tracy McGrady, Carmelo Anthony

[Afigenatjola]

West-
PG-Nash
SG-T-Mac
SF- ? (Undecided)
PF- Garnett
C- Yao

East-
PG-Wade
SG-James
SF-Hill
PF-J. O'Neil
C- Shaq

[Avaboormavoro]

Originally posted by SlasH:
I supose man you got a point,
But I've watched games this year against the Raptors with the Spurs, and my god it's so frustrating you can't even breathe on Duncan and it's a foul. The guy is so protected it's rediculous, then again every star player is in the NBA. Damn referees, the Raptors have no "Huge Stars"(other than sophomore Bosh) so they hardly ever get calls, for christ sakes they had 3 inbound calls At HOME in the same game!! Who calls an inbound pass a turnover in the NBA!? I'll tell ya who a ref giving a winning team(Miami Heat) a break on the road.

That was fuckin horendous. The raps don't even get breaks on the road.

I just wish Star players wern't so damn protected. An extra 5-15 trips to the charity stride is one hell of a boost to a players game..

Later oN
*...SlasH...* While I do agree that star players get preferential treatement, you have to be real. The Raptors are starting rafael Arujo at Center and he can't play defense to save his life. So its expected that the Duncan's and the Webbers of the world will have goo nights against them. And inbound pass is a turnover if you can't get it in in 5 seconds. Don't act as if the Raptors are world beaters here. I will admit that some of it is the refs, but a lot of it is the team itself, whether it be the Raptors or any other struggling team right now.

[actioliGalm]

Eastern AllStar Team
C: Shaquille O'Neil
PF: Chris Bosh(Biased pick cause of my love for the raps )
SF: Lebron James
SG: Alan Iverson
PG: Dwayne Wade
Bench: Jalen Rose, Paul Pierce, Vince Carter, Steve Francis, Antawn Jamison, Nazr Mohammad, Ben Wallace, Chauncy Billups and Omeka Okafur.

Western AllStar Team
C: Amare Stoudamire
PF: Kevin Garnett
SF: Dirk Nowitzki
SG: Kobe Bryant
PG: Steve Nash
Bench: Duncan(urg I hate him), Quentin Richardson, Mike Bibby, Brad Miller, Carmelo Anthony, Ray Allen, Tracy McGrady and Carlos Boozer.

[ January 27, 2005, 12:23 PM: Message edited by: SlasH ]

[FYIbiatches]

No man by inbound I mean one foot on the court and one outside, something you see about 100 times in every game.

The referees called it 3 fucking times, when the Raptors were down by like 20 points.

And hey man Araujo is not that bad, Hoffa pulls down alot of boards, and he gives hard fouls.

Most of the times I'm talking about is Bosh getting the retarded fouls, as he is T-O's best player and it usually ends up taking him out of the game early.

Bosh hardly ever gets calls in his favor. But I supose his time will come, I would expect next year things will be going in his favor like Amare Stoudamire.

Later oN
*...SlasH...*

[JackTimQSR]

West-
PG-Nash
SG-T-Mac
SF- Dirk Nowitzki
PF- Garnett
C- Amare Stoudamire

East-
PG-Wade
SG-James
SF-Hill
PF- J. O'Neal
C- Shaq

[daguy]

East
G: Steve Francis
G: Allen Iverson
F: Antawn Jamison
F: Grant Hill
C: Shaquille O'Neal

Bench: Dwayne Wade, Lebron James, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Michael Redd, Chris Bosh, Al Harrington

West
G: Steve Nash
G: Kobe Bryant
F: Kevin Garnett
F: Tim Duncan
C: Amare Stoudemire

Bench: Tracy McGrady, Ray Allen, Dirk Nowitzki, Yao Ming, Chris Webber, Shawn Marion

I would normally put Jermaine O'Neal in as a starter in the East, but he just hasn't played enough games this season to warrant an All-Star appearance. The All-Star game, at least in my opinion, is there to reward the players who have been playing well during the season up to that point.

[MeeveStesia]

Iverson's last game against Heat: 45 points 11 assists and 1 turnover. Those are out of this world numbers. He's been putting up similar numbers most of the season now. He is top in the NBA in scoring and top 5 in assists and steals(i think). Like him or not that man deserves a spot on the All-Star team.

[gugamotina]

I supose man you got a point,
But I've watched games this year against the Raptors with the Spurs, and my god it's so frustrating you can't even breathe on Duncan and it's a foul. The guy is so protected it's rediculous, then again every star player is in the NBA. Damn referees, the Raptors have no "Huge Stars"(other than sophomore Bosh) so they hardly ever get calls, for christ sakes they had 3 inbound calls At HOME in the same game!! Who calls an inbound pass a turnover in the NBA!? I'll tell ya who a ref giving a winning team(Miami Heat) a break on the road.

That was fuckin horendous. The raps don't even get breaks on the road.

I just wish Star players wern't so damn protected. An extra 5-15 trips to the charity stride is one hell of a boost to a players game..

Later oN
*...SlasH...*

[ January 31, 2005, 01:18 PM: Message edited by: SlasH ]

[Stivenslivakovishhhs]

East
G: dwayne wade
G: lebron james
F: Ron Artest (how pissed would Stern be?)
F: Jermaine O'neal
C: Shaq

West
G: Steve Nash
G: Tracy Mcgrady
F: Dirk Nowitzki
F: Tim Duncan
C: Amare Stoudemire

[AdipexAdipex]

Originally posted by Jomo Version 1.2:
Slash, Kobe is Playing and on the bench.......

I cant belive that Nash used to suck balls on Dallas but now he is the best PG in the west

nucking futs.......... An average of 16 points and 8 assists per game in his 4 years as a starter in Dallas. Yeah, he sucked big time.

Eastern AllStar Team
C: Shaquille O'Neil
PF: Chris Bosh(Biased pick cause of my love for the raps [Big Grin] )
SF: Lebron James
SG: Alan Iverson
PG: Dwayne Wade
Bench: Jalen Rose, Paul Pierce, Vince Carter, Steve Francis, Antawn Jamison, Nazr Mohammad, Ben Wallace, Chauncy Billups and Omeka Okafur.

Western AllStar Team
C: Amare Stoudamire
PF: Kevin Garnett
SF: Dirk Nowitzki
SG: Kobe Bryant
PG: Steve Nash
Bench: Duncan(urg I hate him), Quentin Richardson, Mike Bibby, Brad Miller, Carmelo Anthony, Ray Allen, Kobe Bryant, Tracy McGrady and Carlos Boozer. I believe that there can only be 11 players on the All-Star team, so a 9 man bench wouldn't be very realistic or accurate. But it is your own, personal All-Star lineup so there really are no "guidelines" when it comes to listing a team.

[interbaoui]

Originally posted by Petey:
I honestly had no idea people still cared about basketball. Well its the third most watched and attended professional sport in America, so someone must care about it.

[wrardymar]

Slash, Kobe is Playing and on the bench.......

I cant belive that Nash used to suck balls on Dallas but now he is the best PG in the west

nucking futs..........

[ZanazaKar]

Excactly, I knew I listed too many, but there are sooo many players this year who are dishing out numbers deserving of the all star team. Like Q-Rich, Chauncey Billups, Ray Allan, Okafur and Mohammad and I won't be surprised if none of those guys make it, to make room for Yao "Boring" Ming and Tim Duncan...

Later oN
*...SlasH...*

[Blaxastij]

West-
PG: Steve Nash
SG: Kobe Bryant(biased pick by me, but if he's healthy I'd like him to start)
SF: Shawn Marion
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Yao

East:
PG: Dwyane Wade
SG: Allen Iverson
SF: LeBron James
PF: Jermaine O'Neal
C: Shaq

[Civilrecordzz]

I honestly had no idea people still cared about basketball.

[Ceriopal]

Well that's where I argue man, because All Star Weekend is for the fans, or at least that is how they market it. I can't see anyone actually want to see Tim Duncan play. He's so god damn boring.

I respect Ilgauskas for his contributions(specially because he's in my fantasy pool) but he's a fan favorite in cleveland. I can't see why anyone would want to vote for someone like duncan or ming who would pass up a dunk for a skyhook.

TEAR THE HOUSE DOWN!!

A sky hook doesn't do that, I hope Duncan doesn't make it.

Later oN
*...SlasH...*