[Fegasderty]

app, input vEra output vEra

puriyalai...MR / editor sadhi'nnu solreengaLA?

[HedgeYourBets]

Vipranarayana - in Telugu, that is. Nageshwara Rao was the hero. Sivaji Ganesan played the same role in Tamil, but not in a remake of this film.

There is another discussion waiting to be spawned off from this - some heroines who were over-prudish in Tamil, actually loosened up in telugu. Bhanumathy and Suhasini are examples. Even for relatively looser ones, the degree is always greater in Telugu. Money is usually quoted as the reason for this but thats being so cynical, I guess there is some hint of Victorian england in Tamilnadu in the last century.

But anyway, Vipranarayana shouldnt excuse Bhanumathy - Prabhu Ram, I must find and post your comment on azhagana ponnu naan here. Or, you can repost it.

[Fegasderty]

alaipayuthe song parthale adi vizhuma

appo intha kaalathula vara paattellam paatha kolaye panniduvaangalaa?

ஹூம்..பிள்ளை குட்டிக்காரன் நிலைமை உங்களுக்குப்புரியுமோ என்னமோ...

'பச்சை நிறமே'க்கு அனுமதி உண்டு...my 3 yr old's fav during meal times...

[Slonopotam845]

Otherwise it's the most family friendly video songs of MR's (post 90's) films.

எப்படிப்பார்த்தாலும் சாலினியை இந்தத்தேர்தலிலிருந்தாவது விடுவிக்க அலை பாயுதே பயன்படும் என்று நினைக்கிறேன்...

[Slonopotam845]

எப்படிப்பார்த்தாலும் சாலினி naditha Alaipayuthe has some of the most family friendly video songs of MR's (post 90's) films. So I request not to use Alaipayuthe against Shalini

[9mm_fan]

கார்த்திகா (பிரபலமான 'அவனை நிறுத்தச்சொல்லு, நான் நிறுத்துறேன்' காட்சியில் வரும் வாய்ப்பைப்பெற்றவர்) இந்த ரகம்..அதிகம் தமிழில் நடிக்கவில்லையென்றாலும், மலையாளத்திலும் இதே ரெபுடேஷன் உள்ளவர்...

[Lt_Apple]

What other movies did she act in? Poovizhi vaasalilE, then? Very expressive eyes, I like.. :P

[PhillipHer]

Umm... nAyagan! kArthikA was a fixture in MalayALam - ThALavattom, Gandhinagar 2nd street (remade as Annanagar muthal theru), SanmanasuLLavarkku SamAthAnAm (remade with Sivakumar, Amala, Chandrasekar and the multilinguistic wife possessing YGM) etc... She is in 2 PadmarAjan movies - kariyila kAttu pOlE and DeshAdanakkiLi karayariyillA.

[Ifroham4]

Predominant-a mallu-la nadicha heroines kondu vandha kashtam dhaan - parvathy, manju, samyuktha - none of them look like they are going to go to any lenghts to avoid touching. Parametersla cleara irukku.

Note; the winner of the poll is not the most dignified victorianengland-approved actress - it is about unwillingness to aid the film in showing permissible levels of intimacy.

[radikal]

I think Tamil mags wrote a lot those days about Karthika disallowing co-actors' touching etc, so she is kind of different from the likes of Parvathy who weren't thootrified by tabloids...

[Slonopotam845]

"அத்துமீறிய நடிகருக்குக்கார்த்திகா அடி" என்கிற மாதிரி ஏதோ வாசித்த ஞாபகம்...

[HedgeYourBets]

Originally Posted by jaaze alaipayuthe song parthale adi vizhuma

appo intha kaalathula vara paattellam paatha kolaye panniduvaangalaa?

ஹூம்..பிள்ளை குட்டிக்காரன் நிலைமை உங்களுக்குப்புரியுமோ என்னமோ...

'பச்சை நிறமே'க்கு அனுமதி உண்டு...my 3 yr old's fav during meal times... naansense.. my mom didnt allow me to see heyram, bcos the trailer had a kissing scene..




the same parents will ask us after the "first night", "enna santhosamaa irunthiyaa"

thuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.. kevalam..



who will bridge the bloody info gap ??

[Lt_Apple]

Plum - Daivame room pootu yooceechi.. thread per veakerengala??

[9mm_fan]

groucho, neengallam observernu thappikka mudiyadhu. Theme innum sariya form aagalai.

Yeah, waiting for that. Contenders are too few. Most actresses has transcended that "dignity" circle. Take Padhmini for example, we have always known her for kudumba paanggaana nadippu. But can anyone remember Sangam? Plus, at the time when heroines embrace their heroes with their arms strategically positioned above their err...what is scientifically known as gazoombas, Padhmini just embraced they with her arms around the hero (lucky bugger).

Then you have KRV...who appeared (urgh!) in Swimsuit in one of MGR's film (Tozhilaali-nu nenekkiren). So, Suhasini oda wet-saree romp mathiri ipadi parpala "undignified" moments irunthirukku in these "saivam"istic actresses career.

So, I need clear definition on what exactly we are discussing here.

[Raj_Copi_Jin]

Groucho, padmini in jis desh mein and mera naam joker; vyjayanthi in sangam - varalaaru miga mukkiyam amaichare
Theme, I thought I wrote down as much as I could without going outright into risque territory. Like the previous threads, the simplistic poll is to give a strand around which to discuss _ the larger interest is to discuss the victorian morality, the double standards and hypocrisies allowed with the focus on tamil society. So, the qualification criteria for candidates is quite wide
1) Suhasini types who, till date take care to maintain the sati image in TN but 'freed' up in other languages. Especially, if yo see her discography in 80's, gummidipoondi thandinavudane, there was a transformation in her. I have included her here precisely to kickstart that discussion. Why the pressure to maintain dignity here but loosen up there? What role did tamil society play in it? Is it that we are tighter than the telugus? Like that...
2)Take bhanumathy - strictly speaking, people can argue for her exclusion given vipranarayana but my interest is what made her make that exception? We don't have definitive answers ofcourse, but that's precisely why I am calling this psychoanalysis, howsoever amateur. Incidentally, a plausible reason I thought of for suhasini's case is contradicted here. So, this is another different mind to analyse...
3. Then the points you brought out - the defence mechanism these poor girls used against marauding heroes bringing in arms as first line of defence, and how a few felt free to break it. If those who broke it were accepted - padmini retained her image inspite of that didn't she - then why and how? Why didn't the tamizh samoogam stamp padmini etc as not chamarthu despite jdmgbh or mnj? What factors went into that acceptance?
4. Then anban cut to an orthogonal but important point - that is also a fascinating discussion to take forward.I am okay with that discussion here.
5.Some heroines start off with that image and then cut loose - amala for instance. What goes into those decisions? Some others actually calculatively - maybe guided by experienced agents - start off with a chamarthu image, and then steadily increase the stakes, which could actually be strategy - in that, your attraction increases depending on how slowly you kind of 'reveal' yourself. Ok, this is a bit crossing the line. But think rambha, she actually started off pothi pothi in uzhavan but exploded later.Well, I find her unattractive anyway, that's a different discussion but at some level, all of us fall prey to the pothi vecha malligai mottu being more attractive. Some actresses actually enhance their appeal by that decision not to reveal - I am sure we all have examples of that at various levels. Playing difficult to get, if you may.
6. Even as I am typing, I got another candidate and a prototype, will type in next post.

[9mm_fan]

Ok, that candidate is a person who went full hog in her first few movies, then had a hit as the archetypal tamil sati savitri, and maintains the latter image to date. So, what forced this transformation - the sheer force of imagination of the electorate, which wishes to see her only in that image, and she is playing along, though she cares two hoots for the moral codes as indicated by the first few movies? Or the first few movies were an aberration forced on her by a greedy agent and/or mother/father etc? Which is the real person here? Note the transformation was extreme which is why it attracts attention.

[9mm_fan]

Hmm...Savithiri, Savithiri....

Plum, I can see Star Dignity Pt2: The Wrath Of Joe, so watch out.

I have seen her, and remember mostly of her collaboration with NT, so subject matter the characters played require her to have that "dignity". But she was pretty intimate with her roles with Gemini wasn't she. I mean, intimate enough for that time. I can't be sure of these, I've seen too little films with our Sambaar as sole hero. Joe can come in here and fight for Savithiri. In real life, though...Savithiri...whoa!

She was pre-Meryl Streep, when Streep herself at many times reminded me how Savithiri could have been if the moral codes, cultural rigidity, societal pressures were different than.

Hey, waidaminute, Observer romba peesuran. Where are the others?

[9mm_fan]

Anjanenjan Karthi,
You make an arumayana point

[9mm_fan]

Groucho, excellent. Neenga observer listleye illai. Participants list dhaan.
Wrath of joe -
Paravaillai - avariyum offend panna vendaama?
Savithri is up for discussion, folks!

[Lt_Apple]

Anjanenjan Karthi,
You make an arumayana point

i have more complaints abt all our parents..

neengalum poruppaa nadanthukkonga..