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Old 06-26-2008, 04:34 AM   #21
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1. Bollywood has made the best Shakespeare adaptations, of course they were very Indian.. And are you even aware of those
2. There were poignant movie's like dor, blue umbrella which are mainly based in a village, if you are looking for culture-preserving ( ) movies
3. Brilliant movies on real life incidents like black Friday
4. Movies in almost all genres, really good ones at that: mystery, thriller, fantasy, sport, history, children

Of course I am not an avid bolly film watcher, other hubbers can give more examples.. Bolly does not start and end with OSO...
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Old 06-26-2008, 04:47 AM   #22
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1. Bollywood has made the best Shakespeare adaptations, of course they were very Indian.. And are you even aware of those
2. There were poignant movie's like dor, blue umbrella which are mainly based in a village, if you are looking for culture-preserving ( ) movies
3. Brilliant movies on real life incidents like black Friday
4. Movies in almost all genres, really good ones at that: mystery, thriller, fantasy, sport, history, children

Of course I am not an avid bolly film watcher, other hubbers can give more examples.. Bolly does not start and end with OSO...


And the "kollywood is technically superior" is a thing of 1947.. endha kaalathula irukkeenga? We have an edge only in music and adhulayum the gap is narrowing down.

inga kora solra sagodharargal ellam Bollywood la verum scene padatha mattum paathuttu ippadi solraanga nu nenaikkaren
In fact, adhulayum avinga dhaan superior!

Their canvas is simply too wide for us to stand any chance in comparison.
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Old 06-26-2008, 04:47 AM   #23
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Ofcourse !!
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1. Bollywood has made the best Shakespeare adaptations, of course they were very Indian.. And are you even aware of those
2. There were poignant movie's like dor, blue umbrella which are mainly based in a village, if you are looking for culture-preserving ( ) movies
3. Brilliant movies on real life incidents like black Friday
4. Movies in almost all genres, really good ones at that: mystery, thriller, fantasy, sport, history, children

Of course I am not an avid bolly film watcher, other hubbers can give more examples.. Bolly does not start and end with OSO...
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Old 06-26-2008, 05:04 AM   #24
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And just talk about Hindi movie market. They have started to cover all the major movie markets across the globe
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Old 06-26-2008, 05:07 AM   #25
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IMO, though most of the Bollywood films ape Hollywood, the quality of the product is way better than Kollywood.

Most of the Kollywood films can and should be compared to Bhojpuri films (sathiyamaa ithu enna ezhvunnu theriyathu).
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:59 AM   #26
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I think the only way in which Bollywood is superior than the South Indian films is in terms of the reach and that's just because of the language and amount of North Indian population settled down in other countries. Almost every North Indian (Marathi, Gujarathi, Bengali, etc) will watch and understand Hindi movies, but this is not the case with South Indians.

Every south indian state has it's own movie culture. Some people are commenting about script and execution in Hindi films. I can bet that every Hindi film is inspired (or bluntly copied) from a hollywood film/international films. Watch the scenes closely and you'll definitely find that scene in any of the international films. I can bet on that. Music is utter useless in these films. Even the biggest hits like Dhoom have been blatantly copied ones, which was only revealed later (source: www.itwofs.com). If you probe more you can find that even BGM's were copied ones. They've completely lost the credibility. Now, only the hype is making them to survive. Sheer media hype can create real waves in people's mind. Remember the reachability of Sivaji? Do you guys think that this film was the talk of the town just because it was superior in quality? No way. It's just the mere hype that matters. What was the Dasavatharam? Why didn't it create the ripples that Sivaji created across the country? It's just because Dasa was not hyped/promoted to the extent of Sivaji.

Remember Paruthiveeran? How many hindi films that came that year matched the quality of this film? But still it was not noticed at all in India, because it was a local film with a complete Indian look. In fact this film won awards in Berlin Film Festival. How many news channels published this information? The film "Ram" won the best picture award in Cannes Film Festival. How many Indians know about it? People like, Bollywood films because they are completely non-indian. Now a days it's a fashion to go crazy behind things that are non-indian.

South Indian films need aggressive marketing strategies. If marketed properly they can easily surpass the so called "Bollywood". Sivaji and Dasa proved that language is not a barrier for a Tamil film. Actually through Sivaji many people outside India came to know that there is a larger Film Industry down the south, that produces more films than Bollywood, not only in terms of quantity but also in terms of quality.

I do not have any grudge or grievance against any industry. All I want is good work must be recognized no matter wherever in the country it came from.
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Old 06-26-2008, 10:12 AM   #27
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Originally Posted by Nerd bollywood is miles ahead of kollywood in terms of script/execution/technical excellence etc but except SRK nobody cares for IIFA
No way! In terms of technical excellence, Kollywood is miles ahead...And for script, i would say both bolly and kolly are in the same line...Bolly is only miles ahead of kollywood in terms of actress's dressing... Maybe in a year or two, sex scenes and nudity will be a normal thing in hindi movies.... IMHO, Bollywood is losing its Indian identity..Wonder why every industry is so obsessed with Hollywood.. Mahen - You are joking right?
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Old 06-26-2008, 10:20 AM   #28
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bollywood is miles ahead of kollywood in terms of script/execution/technical excellence etc but except SRK nobody cares for IIFA
First try to understand what a script is and then let's compare Bollywood and Kollywood.

Hollywood is far superior than Kollywood in terms of script, screenplay, execution etc. Agreed. Bollywood copies all these from Hollywood blatantly.

In that case, your hypothesis that Bollywood is superior in script/screenplay than Kollywood may be true.
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Old 06-26-2008, 10:36 AM   #29
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Even if Bolly copies Holly in the script - their execution is not as amateruish as Kolly of late... There were several times where Kolly was on par with Bolly (especially during the late 70's through mid-90's where Bolly knew only "boy meets girl" kind of films).

But over the past few years Bolly has sure come out of the "boy meets girl" curse and started making some meaningful, multi dimensional movies with focus more on the script than the stars.

When would Kolly come out of it's "ego massaging" hero worship with cheap intro song giving lots of free advice, kuthu dance, punch dialaak, crass needless comedy tracks, crude/cliched villains with pathetic mannerisms/dialaaks?

Even the rare, non-stupid Kolly movies like Ammuvagiya Naan, Evano Oruvan, Anjathey et al wilt somewhere halfway through in execution At this moment, let Kolly grow up first before we even start comparing it with Bolly!
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:19 AM   #30
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Even if Bolly copies Holly in the script - their execution is not as amateruish as Kolly of late... There were several times where Kolly was on par with Bolly (especially during the late 70's through mid-90's where Bolly knew only "boy meets girl" kind of films).

But over the past few years Bolly has sure come out of the "boy meets girl" curse and started making some meaningful, multi dimensional movies with focus more on the script than the stars.

When would Kolly come out of it's "ego massaging" hero worship with cheap intro song giving lots of free advice, kuthu dance, punch dialaak, crass needless comedy tracks, crude/cliched villains with pathetic mannerisms/dialaaks?

Even the rare, non-stupid Kolly movies like Ammuvagiya Naan, Evano Oruvan, Anjathey et al wilt somewhere halfway through in execution At this moment, let Kolly grow up first before we even start comparing it with Bolly!
Kollywood films have too many varieties. They produce films both for the mass and the class. You are looking at the mass alone. When you go to see a Rajni movie do you really want to see any logic/script? Of course you don't because that's the way it is. I'm not talking about Masala entertainers. Even Bollywood produces such movies with some pranks like Akshay Kumar. Why don't you talk about Paruthiveeran, Ram, Mozhi, Thavamai Thavamirundhu etc. What's not there in these films that is present in the Bollywood films?
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:20 AM   #31
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And why don't you let movies like doom/OSO pass??
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Old 06-26-2008, 04:37 PM   #32
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Even if Bolly copies Holly in the script - their execution is not as amateruish as Kolly of late... There were several times where Kolly was on par with Bolly (especially during the late 70's through mid-90's where Bolly knew only "boy meets girl" kind of films).

But over the past few years Bolly has sure come out of the "boy meets girl" curse and started making some meaningful, multi dimensional movies with focus more on the script than the stars.

When would Kolly come out of it's "ego massaging" hero worship with cheap intro song giving lots of free advice, kuthu dance, punch dialaak, crass needless comedy tracks, crude/cliched villains with pathetic mannerisms/dialaaks?

Even the rare, non-stupid Kolly movies like Ammuvagiya Naan, Evano Oruvan, Anjathey et al wilt somewhere halfway through in execution At this moment, let Kolly grow up first before we even start comparing it with Bolly!
Yeah true.... dhoom,OSO,race etc were excellent in terms of script and execution
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Old 06-26-2008, 07:25 PM   #33
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.music too, did anyone hear - tare zameen par track and BGM - piccha edakkanum namma pasanga..........
Just check itwofs.com...apparam puriyum yaar pichai edukkarangannu...
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Old 06-26-2008, 08:47 PM   #34
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did anyone hear - tare zameen par track and BGM - piccha edakkanum namma pasanga..........
naansans...

tamil m.a is enough to shut their mouth regarding music!

or should i list yuvans movies to prove that tamil music world is as good as ever!
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:03 PM   #35
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Originally Posted by MADDY did anyone hear - tare zameen par track and BGM - piccha edakkanum namma pasanga..........
naansans...

tamil m.a is enough to shut their mouth regarding music!

or should i list yuvans movies to prove that tamil music world is as good as ever!
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:05 PM   #36
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Originally Posted by Vivasaayi Originally Posted by MADDY did anyone hear - tare zameen par track and BGM - piccha edakkanum namma pasanga..........
naansans...

tamil m.a is enough to shut their mouth regarding music!

or should i list yuvans movies to prove that tamil music world is as good as ever! vaaat reeson for muttals
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:12 PM   #37
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Originally Posted by MADDY did anyone hear - tare zameen par track and BGM - piccha edakkanum namma pasanga..........
naansans...

tamil m.a is enough to shut their mouth regarding music!

or should i list yuvans movies to prove that tamil music world is as good as ever! appadi podu aruvala...idha idha idhathaan naan edhir paarthen.
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:12 PM   #38
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Tamil MA music is good in its own ways, ditto TZP. Both forms of music are different, and they were composed for different genres and themes. So, it's stupid to claim either superior over the other.
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Originally Posted by Roshan Originally Posted by Vivasaayi Originally Posted by MADDY did anyone hear - tare zameen par track and BGM - piccha edakkanum namma pasanga..........
naansans...

tamil m.a is enough to shut their mouth regarding music!

or should i list yuvans movies to prove that tamil music world is as good as ever! vaaat reeson for muttals let him do that...we can't change these people....they would have never heard any tamil song but still they would comment about it. ungala ellam intha jenmathula thirutha mudiyathu.
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:15 PM   #40
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Tamil MA music is good in its own ways, ditto TZP. Both forms of music are different, and they were composed for different genres and themes. So, it's stupid to claim either superior over the other.
i dint compare...

i said its not in the situation of pichai eduthufying and all
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