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**Lillie_Steins** · 05-03-2007, 07:56 PM

>>digr. except for the frnship with baasha part

**NeroASERCH** · 05-03-2007, 09:28 PM

Correct PR. The flashback within the flashback slow things down.

I have this opinion about remakes. I was referring to Hollywood when I wrote this in my website:

"Remakes are expensive and effective way to educate the audience the greatness of the original"

But in the context of Tamil film, not only it reminds the youngsters and the amnesiac audiences of the good old films; sometimes one can improve on it.

Take Billa for example. The only saving grace in Billa was Rajini and some good songs. Other than that the film is terrible (I have discussed this in Billa 2007 thread); and I am sure the new version can take care of the part that is bad.

Nan avanillai is quite apt for times like this but comparison with Gemini is inevitable because the film is noted mainly for Gemini's daringness to exploit his own off-screen romantic image. Plus a risky role, considering his on-screen romantic image.

**Slonopotam845** · 05-03-2007, 09:52 PM

Its surprising not to see vijay's name in this thread

**Ifroham4** · 05-03-2007, 10:19 PM

Is it Shanti, Joe?

**doctorzlo** · 05-03-2007, 10:22 PM

thulla manamun thullam is a straight lift of a NT movie ... joe, i am sure you know the title of the movie with NT ....

Do you mean Paarthaal Pasi Theerum?

**HedgeYourBets** · 05-03-2007, 10:27 PM

Its surprising not to see vijay's name in this thread

Then we need to talk about all his movies.better leave it

**softy54534** · 05-03-2007, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by Pras thulla manamun thullam is a straight lift of a NT movie ... joe, i am sure you know the title of the movie with NT ....

Do you mean Paarthaal Pasi Theerum?

Definitely not. It's the one with VijayaKumari. She'd be blind. And not know NT (responsible, in a way, for her blindness) but NT is always around. Crikey, I am confused.

**Big A** · 05-03-2007, 11:04 PM

Onething that surprised me is You've Got A Mail which seems to have released after agathiyan's KAADHAL KOATAI has same storyline as that i mena same concept ! athey love through letter but have seen each other n dunno that they r the ones

Hollywood Kollywood paarthu copy adichidha coz kaadhal koatai won national award for agathiyan!

Ilaina idhu rendume romba palaya padam paaarthu panadha

**Lillie_Steins** · 05-04-2007, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by joe Originally Posted by Pras thulla manamun thullam is a straight lift of a NT movie ... joe, i am sure you know the title of the movie with NT ....

Do you mean Paarthaal Pasi Theerum?

Definitely not. It's the one with VijayaKumari. She'd be blind. And not know NT (responsible, in a way, for her blindness) but NT is always around. Crikey, I am confused. and her brother has written her a letter before his death saying that NT is not responsible ? ... ya that's it

**HedgeYourBets** · 05-04-2007, 12:28 AM

movies that are better than the original!

can somebody list them?

**Fegasderty** · 05-04-2007, 12:54 AM

movies that are better than the original!

can somebody list them?

i dunno whether i can say this film here - Doli saja ke rakhna is better than Kaadhalukku Mariyadhai........

.........everything was better than the original (maybe it was taken directly from Malayalam, thats y)

Vijay - Akshay Khanna - AK was so natural whereas vijay with the same poove unakaaga hangover shedding a bit too much of tears.....

Shalini - Jyothika - Jyothika was very beautiful and suited that silent girl role better than Shalini

ARR - IR - i'll give it to ARR here............the songs have come in 3 languages in different scripts and was requested by 3 different guys - talks volumes abt the quality......

priyadarshan - Fazil - again, i give it to Priyadarshan for making it less melodramatic than Fazil.......

this is one film where i really felt remake was better than original.....

.....yea, DSKR was a colossal flop and KM was a blockbuster.....

Lavanya, infact, i was tempted to talk abt vijay as soon as this thread opened..........Vijay is someone who has disappointed me a lot in this aspect.........

......i dunno, y s'one who can pull off a "Priyamudan" has to do telugu remakes???

.....after Priyamudan, iwas so happy that we have a actor of SRK's style/villainity in tamil but he has disappointed since then

**radikal** · 05-04-2007, 12:57 AM

movies that are better than the original!

can somebody list them?

Nayagan
Avvai shanmugi

**TorryJens** · 05-04-2007, 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by thimuru movies that are better than the original!

can somebody list them?

i dunno whether i can say this film here - Doli saja ke rakhna is better than Kaadhalukku Mariyadhai........

.........everything was better than the original (maybe it was taken directly from Malayalam, thats y)

Vijay - Akshay Khanna - AK was so natural whereas vijay with the same poove unakaaga hangover shedding a bit too much of tears.....

Shalini - Jyothika - Jyothika was very beautiful and suited that silent girl role better than Shalini

ARR - IR - i'll give it to ARR here............the songs have come in 3 languages in different scripts and was requested by 3 different guys - talks volumes abt the quality......

priyadarshan - Fazil - again, i give it to Priyadarshan for making it less melodramatic than Fazil.......

this is one film where i really felt remake was better than original.....

.....yea, DSKR was a colossal flop and KM was a blockbuster.....

Lavanya, infact, i was tempted to talk abt vijay as soon as this thread opened..........Vijay is someone who has disappointed me a lot in this aspect.........

......i dunno, y s'one who can pull off a "Priyamudan" has to do telugu remakes???

.....after Priyamudan, iwas so happy that we have a actor of SRK's style/villainity in tamil but he has disappointed since then

good to hear that your movie is a colossal flop

**Ifroham4** · 05-04-2007, 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by thimuru movies that are better than the original!

can somebody list them?

Nayagan
Avvai shanmugi

u mean nayagan is better than Godfather?

interesting...first of all i wont call it a remake

**9mm_fan** · 05-04-2007, 04:08 AM

Originally Posted by Nerd Originally Posted by MADDY Hindi padam continous paakaravangalakku, endha Rajinikanth padamume pudhusu illa........infact, the biggest hit of his career - Baasha is a blatant lift of HUM

Now this is a blatant lie. batsha sure has shades of hum bit it is NOT a blatant lift

Baasha - HUM -> storyline is exactly similar.........except for the frnship with baasha part, all other twists/turns are the same......

...... There are lots of subtle differences. Billa, Thee, vELaikkAran are blatant lifts mind you. But all said, they LEGALLY purchased the rights of hum and made it as bAtshA. So no question of plagiarism here

**Lillie_Steins** · 05-04-2007, 06:27 AM

Guys vivek used one of his comedy tracks again in some movie! OR did the producer use it instead of re-shooting

I dont remember both film names but the comedy is like fan falling on the head of the owner of a hotel!

**Raj_Copi_Jin** · 05-04-2007, 12:28 PM

Would anyone consider Imsai Arasan a remake/copy of Uthamaputhiran (which is a remake of Man in the Iron Mask)?

I also think that most Vijayakanth movies are inspired by the Adventures of Tom and Jerry.

**Lillie_Steins** · 05-04-2007, 12:57 PM

I also think that most Vijayakanth movies are inspired by the Adventures of Tom and Jerry.

yengada, romba naal aache, innum neenga Gaptun pathi post pannaliyennu parthen. Correcta vandhuttenga.

**Beerinkol** · 05-04-2007, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Kumar I also think that most Vijayakanth movies are inspired by the Adventures of Tom and Jerry.

yengada, romba naal aache, innum neenga Gaptun pathi post pannaliyennu parthen. Correcta vandhuttenga.

Eeee heee heee....
Viduvenaa?!?

**Beerinkol** · 05-04-2007, 01:12 PM

I also think that most Vijayakanth movies are inspired by the Adventures of Tom and Jerry.

05-03-2007, 07:56 PM	#21
Lillie_Steins Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 4,508 Senior Member	>>digr. except for the frnship with baasha part Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-03-2007, 09:28 PM	#22
NeroASERCH Join Date Jul 2006 Posts 5,147 Senior Member	Correct PR. The flashback within the flashback slow things down. I have this opinion about remakes. I was referring to Hollywood when I wrote this in my website: "Remakes are expensive and effective way to educate the audience the greatness of the original" But in the context of Tamil film, not only it reminds the youngsters and the amnesiac audiences of the good old films; sometimes one can improve on it. Take Billa for example. The only saving grace in Billa was Rajini and some good songs. Other than that the film is terrible (I have discussed this in Billa 2007 thread); and I am sure the new version can take care of the part that is bad. Nan avanillai is quite apt for times like this but comparison with Gemini is inevitable because the film is noted mainly for Gemini's daringness to exploit his own off-screen romantic image. Plus a risky role, considering his on-screen romantic image. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Slonopotam845 Join Date Jan 2006 Posts 5,251 Senior Member	Its surprising not to see vijay's name in this thread Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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doctorzlo Join Date Jun 2006 Posts 4,488 Senior Member	thulla manamun thullam is a straight lift of a NT movie ... joe, i am sure you know the title of the movie with NT .... Do you mean Paarthaal Pasi Theerum? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-03-2007, 10:27 PM	#26
HedgeYourBets Join Date Aug 2008 Posts 4,655 Senior Member	Its surprising not to see vijay's name in this thread Then we need to talk about all his movies.better leave it Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-03-2007, 10:31 PM	#27
softy54534 Join Date Apr 2007 Posts 5,457 Senior Member	Originally Posted by Pras thulla manamun thullam is a straight lift of a NT movie ... joe, i am sure you know the title of the movie with NT .... Do you mean Paarthaal Pasi Theerum? Definitely not. It's the one with VijayaKumari. She'd be blind. And not know NT (responsible, in a way, for her blindness) but NT is always around. Crikey, I am confused. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Big A Join Date Oct 2005 Age 50 Posts 4,148 Administrator	Onething that surprised me is You've Got A Mail which seems to have released after agathiyan's KAADHAL KOATAI has same storyline as that i mena same concept ! athey love through letter but have seen each other n dunno that they r the ones Hollywood Kollywood paarthu copy adichidha coz kaadhal koatai won national award for agathiyan! Ilaina idhu rendume romba palaya padam paaarthu panadha Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Lillie_Steins Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 4,508 Senior Member	Originally Posted by joe Originally Posted by Pras thulla manamun thullam is a straight lift of a NT movie ... joe, i am sure you know the title of the movie with NT .... Do you mean Paarthaal Pasi Theerum? Definitely not. It's the one with VijayaKumari. She'd be blind. And not know NT (responsible, in a way, for her blindness) but NT is always around. Crikey, I am confused. and her brother has written her a letter before his death saying that NT is not responsible ? ... ya that's it Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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HedgeYourBets Join Date Aug 2008 Posts 4,655 Senior Member	movies that are better than the original! can somebody list them? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-04-2007, 12:54 AM	#31
Fegasderty Join Date Mar 2008 Posts 5,023 Senior Member	movies that are better than the original! can somebody list them? i dunno whether i can say this film here - Doli saja ke rakhna is better than Kaadhalukku Mariyadhai........ .........everything was better than the original (maybe it was taken directly from Malayalam, thats y) Vijay - Akshay Khanna - AK was so natural whereas vijay with the same poove unakaaga hangover shedding a bit too much of tears..... Shalini - Jyothika - Jyothika was very beautiful and suited that silent girl role better than Shalini ARR - IR - i'll give it to ARR here............the songs have come in 3 languages in different scripts and was requested by 3 different guys - talks volumes abt the quality...... priyadarshan - Fazil - again, i give it to Priyadarshan for making it less melodramatic than Fazil....... this is one film where i really felt remake was better than original..... .....yea, DSKR was a colossal flop and KM was a blockbuster..... Lavanya, infact, i was tempted to talk abt vijay as soon as this thread opened..........Vijay is someone who has disappointed me a lot in this aspect......... ......i dunno, y s'one who can pull off a "Priyamudan" has to do telugu remakes??? .....after Priyamudan, iwas so happy that we have a actor of SRK's style/villainity in tamil but he has disappointed since then Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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radikal Join Date Oct 2005 Age 54 Posts 4,523 Senior Member	movies that are better than the original! can somebody list them? Nayagan Avvai shanmugi Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-04-2007, 01:30 AM	#33
TorryJens Join Date Nov 2008 Posts 4,494 Senior Member	Originally Posted by thimuru movies that are better than the original! can somebody list them? i dunno whether i can say this film here - Doli saja ke rakhna is better than Kaadhalukku Mariyadhai........ .........everything was better than the original (maybe it was taken directly from Malayalam, thats y) Vijay - Akshay Khanna - AK was so natural whereas vijay with the same poove unakaaga hangover shedding a bit too much of tears..... Shalini - Jyothika - Jyothika was very beautiful and suited that silent girl role better than Shalini ARR - IR - i'll give it to ARR here............the songs have come in 3 languages in different scripts and was requested by 3 different guys - talks volumes abt the quality...... priyadarshan - Fazil - again, i give it to Priyadarshan for making it less melodramatic than Fazil....... this is one film where i really felt remake was better than original..... .....yea, DSKR was a colossal flop and KM was a blockbuster..... Lavanya, infact, i was tempted to talk abt vijay as soon as this thread opened..........Vijay is someone who has disappointed me a lot in this aspect......... ......i dunno, y s'one who can pull off a "Priyamudan" has to do telugu remakes??? .....after Priyamudan, iwas so happy that we have a actor of SRK's style/villainity in tamil but he has disappointed since then good to hear that your movie is a colossal flop Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Ifroham4 Join Date Apr 2007 Posts 5,196 Senior Member	Originally Posted by thimuru movies that are better than the original! can somebody list them? Nayagan Avvai shanmugi u mean nayagan is better than Godfather? interesting...first of all i wont call it a remake Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-04-2007, 04:08 AM	#35
9mm_fan Join Date May 2007 Age 53 Posts 5,191 Senior Member	Originally Posted by Nerd Originally Posted by MADDY Hindi padam continous paakaravangalakku, endha Rajinikanth padamume pudhusu illa........infact, the biggest hit of his career - Baasha is a blatant lift of HUM Now this is a blatant lie. batsha sure has shades of hum bit it is NOT a blatant lift Baasha - HUM -> storyline is exactly similar.........except for the frnship with baasha part, all other twists/turns are the same...... ...... There are lots of subtle differences. Billa, Thee, vELaikkAran are blatant lifts mind you. But all said, they LEGALLY purchased the rights of hum and made it as bAtshA. So no question of plagiarism here Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-04-2007, 06:27 AM	#36
Lillie_Steins Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 4,508 Senior Member	Guys vivek used one of his comedy tracks again in some movie! OR did the producer use it instead of re-shooting I dont remember both film names but the comedy is like fan falling on the head of the owner of a hotel! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Raj_Copi_Jin Join Date Oct 2005 Age 48 Posts 4,533 Senior Member	Would anyone consider Imsai Arasan a remake/copy of Uthamaputhiran (which is a remake of Man in the Iron Mask)? I also think that most Vijayakanth movies are inspired by the Adventures of Tom and Jerry. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-04-2007, 12:57 PM	#38
Lillie_Steins Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 4,508 Senior Member	I also think that most Vijayakanth movies are inspired by the Adventures of Tom and Jerry. yengada, romba naal aache, innum neenga Gaptun pathi post pannaliyennu parthen. Correcta vandhuttenga. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-04-2007, 01:12 PM	#39
Beerinkol Join Date Dec 2006 Posts 5,268 Senior Member	Originally Posted by Kumar I also think that most Vijayakanth movies are inspired by the Adventures of Tom and Jerry. yengada, romba naal aache, innum neenga Gaptun pathi post pannaliyennu parthen. Correcta vandhuttenga. Eeee heee heee.... Viduvenaa?!? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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