[Drugmachine]

The LEGENDS are not born,

They made by PEOPLE, and followers

thats wt happends to MGR and RAJINI

as of now for this generation, YOU all know

people are behind THALA

[Peptobismol]

Ditto to Rajni. What does it take to get a megastar to do "different" themes. It's no reason why people like megastar Mammoty and Amitabh Bachchan get national awards for their acting talent. Sure they've done masalas, but not for every...freaking...movie!

I think you are basing Rajini from movies you seen from 1995 to 2006.

So far the most hardcore masala movies that rajini has done is padayappa,baasha,arunachaalam,Baba,Paayum puli. Yejaaman was family oriented. Chandramukhi was no masala and i would be amused if you count mullum malurum,kai kodukkum kai,jhonny,avargal,aval oru thodarkadhai,ilamai oonjalaadugirathu,moondram mudichu,sri raghavendra etc as one of the Freaking masala movies. Mamooty is not a mass hero in malayalam..that was mohanlal...and Amitabh Bachan did those roles because he lost his mass power..if not it would be on the same length as rajini. Besides when You compare rajini's acting skills with amitabh bachan...rajini is slightly better by purely deriving at the fact that rajini could outdo kamalhassan in some of their earlier movies while kamalhassan outdid him in the rest...but when kamalhassan did with amitabh bachan,bachan looked more like a mouse.

[PhillipHer]

@ hulkster

do u mean to say that rajini , just because of his mass power should do only crap movies, in the name of so called "mass movies" ?????

[Drugmachine]

Originally Posted by nickraman
Ditto to Rajni. What does it take to get a megastar to do "different" themes. It's no reason why people like megastar Mammoty and Amitabh Bachchan get national awards for their acting talent. Sure they've done masalas, but not for every...freaking...movie!

I think you are basing Rajini from movies you seen from 1995 to 2006.

So far the most hardcore masala movies that rajini has done is padayappa,baasha,arunachaalam,Baba,Paayum puli. Yejaaman was family oriented. Chandramukhi was no masala and i would be amused if you count mullum malurum,kai kodukkum kai,jhonny,avargal,aval oru thodarkadhai,ilamai oonjalaadugirathu,moondram mudichu,sri raghavendra etc as one of the Freaking masala movies. Mamooty is not a mass hero in malayalam..that was mohanlal...and Amitabh Bachan did those roles because he lost his mass power..if not it would be on the same length as rajini. Besides when You compare rajini's acting skills with amitabh bachan...rajini is slightly better by purely deriving at the fact that rajini could outdo kamalhassan in some of their earlier movies while kamalhassan outdid him in the rest...but when kamalhassan did with amitabh bachan,bachan looked more like a mouse. out-doing?

what does it mean.....because both rajni and kamal dint get award winning roles with balachander...rajni got comic roles which attracts people....is that called out-doing?

[Ifroham4]

Movies in those days when rajini and kamal paired together..if kamal outdid rajini in pathinaaru vayathiniley rajini outdid him in moondru mudichu..i dunt mean the movies they did spearately..

[softy54534]

Movies in those days when rajini and kamal paired together..if kamal outdid rajini in pathinaaru vayathiniley rajini outdid him in moondru mudichu..i dunt mean the movies they did spearately..

moondru mudichu?..i dont think kamal occupies screen in that movie...just a guest role type

[Peptobismol]

Hmms if i were to mention another movie there would be stark protest against and then this will overflow into kamal vs rajini fight no 62..so better avoid it....as for Nickraman i hope you dunt just base ur criticism with your own opinion..you must see rajini's earlier movies as well and you will notice they are not all freaking mass masala

[tgs]

The LEGENDS are not born,

They made by PEOPLE, and followers

thats wt happends to MGR and RAJINI

as of now for this generation, YOU all know

people are behind THALA

truly said....waiting for kireedom....on thala day....

[9mm_fan]

what does it mean.....because both rajni and kamal dint get award winning roles with balachander...rajni got comic roles which attracts people....is that called out-doing?

Know of a movie called avargaL ??

You can agree for once that Rajini was better than Kamal in that movie though they both had equal screen presence.

[9mm_fan]

And thanks to Nick this thread has also become a vijay/Rajini bashing thread

Give it a break guys.

[Lillie_Steins]

The LEGENDS are not born,

They made by PEOPLE, and followers

This is the kind of FEEDBACK this thread is looking for!!! Thanks Rocky ....

PS: Guys, I think I mentioned this in my first post ... This thread is not abt WHO'S BETTER THAN WHO at all ... I just gave a few examples to set the stage for the discussion ... In case some of the details I gave were wrong, pls disregard those, and let's focus on the subject in hand!

[Ifroham4]

As leo put it... AJith doesnt need publicity but publicity needs Ajith

Thaai Illamal Sei Ilai... THALA illamal Thamizh Cinema Ilai

he isn ot next superstar or universal star he is first THALA .. he is AJITH

[S.T.D.]

AFTER RAJINI AND MGR PEOPLE BELONGS TO VIJAY.

NO MATTER VIJAY HAVE SUPPORT OF MEDIA OR OTHER PERSON.

THEEDI POONA THAAN ASIGAM
THAANA THEEDI VANTHA MARIYAATHA

I LOVE KAMAL AND VIKRAM FOR ACTING
KAMAL AND VIKRAM BETTER THAN RAJINI AND VIJAY IN ACTING

ALL ROUNDER WAY RAJINI AND VIJAY BETTER THAN KAMAL AND VIKRAM.

BOTH RAJINI AND VIJAY ARE ATTRACT ALL KIND OF PEOPLE.BUT ONE VIJAY IS NOT SUPER STAR.
SUPER STAR IS RAJINI THAAN.

BUT AFTER RAJINI AND KAMAL,VIJAY AND VIKRAM SURE.

[LottiFurmann]

Why is it so hard to see your favorites being written off as time moves forward? Or why is it so hard when your seniors rule out your favorites saying they are not there yet, and have a long way to go!





Hubbers can try giving their opinion on this instead of declaring who is best /worst and making this thread as a fight thread.

[S.T.D.]

Why is it so hard to see your favorites being written off as time moves forward? Or why is it so hard when your seniors rule out your favorites saying they are not there yet, and have a long way to go!





Hubbers can try giving their opinion on this instead of declaring who is best /worst and making this thread as a fight thread.

Great subject for thread, bay. You are right, Thiru, we are going back to those silly debates.

I think we are blind loyalists sometimes. It hurts me when someone bashes NT for doing crap movies in the eighties. But I can't fight that...because it's the truth. But if I am a fanatic, I'd even say that film like Thirusoolam is an Oscar material.

I have once sat with an older guy (way older) who dismissed NT saying that he copied KR Ramasamy. But I consoled myself, saying that the whole world knows NT's acting prowess. But if I were a fanatic, I'd clobbered him saying that even VK Ramasamy is better than KR Ramasamy.

It's all in attitude. Vittu kodukka mudiyavillai. How often have NT fans encountered NT vs Kamal debate. I recall saying elsewhere that Kamal is the best product to come out of NT/MGR era. So, the debate is baseless.

But I think people of that time did not have problem moving on from MGR/NT/MSV era to Rajini/Kamal/IR era. It was a smooth transition. Very few grumbled. It was not until late eighties or early nineties that suddenly a bunch of people stood up and said, hey look they are the next MGR (Rajini) and NT (Kamal) when actually, when you look carefully, there are lot more MGR in Kamal and a heavy presence of NT in Rajini.

As for music, there were no issues. MSV even made a few films with Ilayaraja (no guessing whose influence is more). Very little comparison made. A few grumbles here and there.

And when ARR entered the field suddenly the comparison game began. And now, right when both Kamal and Rajini are at the peak, there are talking about the next superstar.

Funny thing is the debate on next superstar is heavier than the next Kamal or NT. That boggles my mind. Very few wants a great actor, most want a great entertainer, which is fine...but is not going to help with putting Tamil film in the international map.

And giving titles. Oru ellaiyee illai. But I am not complaining. But why all surrounding superstar. Ilaya thalabathi. Little Superstar. Come on. Come out with something original. Those days (with exception of a few greats) most title were related to their talent...like Nadippissai pulavar (yes, KRR again) or Nadigar Vel (MRR), or what they brought to the screen like Puratchi Talaivar (you know who) or
Ilatchiya Nadigar (SSR).

Now, I am becoming like the man who talked about K.R. Ramasamy. Can't help it.

What we old-timers had at that time was originality in talent. Individuality in look, especially the power of the actor's voice at that time. Or in case of music, a unique signature that can tell us that this is MSV or this is KVM or Vedha, then later, IR or SG or others.

Now? This is where the plot thickens. But there are some who moves on. My own parents are lot more open-minded than me, when accepting younger generation talents. It's just the ego in me sometimes that make me go all out to protect the older talents.

I am rambling. Oh yeah, I was talking about comparison and how people are more eager about superstar than a superactor.

I'd be a lot happier for the stars if they dream bigger. To reach for the stars...the goal that Kamal is struggling for. To bring the best of Tamil film out and reach people from all over the world. To destroy the imagined preconception that all Indian films are Bollywood.

I wish the debate could be pushed towards that direction, instead of who's the next superstar, so on, so forth. They should aim for their stars to be better than Rajini and Kamal, the way Rajini and Kamal aimed to bring the film industry higher than it was during MGR and NT's time.

Your question is tough, Bay. That is why you get this rambling response. But I hope you see my point.

[MannoFr]

But I hope you see my point.

Yeah,I can see the point ,since almost all you wrote fit to me also.

[radikal]

ALL ROUNDER WAY RAJINI AND VIJAY BETTER THAN KAMAL

I think,even most of the Rajini fans won't agree with this.

[brraverishhh]

what do u mean by all rounder way?

fight,dance,comedy,sentiment,versatility,direction ,production,script writing indha maadhiriya!

adengappa ...vijay evlo periya aalu idhula

[Lt_Apple]

what do u mean by all rounder way?

fight,dance,comedy,sentiment,versatility,direction ,production,script writing indha maadhiriya!

adengappa ...vijay evlo periya aalu idhula

Vutta Prasanth ellam listle settruvangappa

[PhillipHer]

what do u mean by all rounder way?

fight,dance,comedy,sentiment,versatility,direction ,production,script writing indha maadhiriya!

adengappa ...vijay evlo periya aalu idhula

The best quack ive ever read in my life n the way you exposed that was just