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Old 08-27-2011, 01:01 AM   #1
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Default For You, “The New Comer”, A Simple and Ordinary of Dhamma
For You, “The New Comer”
A Simple and Ordinary of Dhamma


By Phra Pramote Pamojjo (Santinan)

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http://www.wimutti.net/
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Old 08-27-2011, 01:14 AM   #2
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Hi ngodngam,

Welcome to the group!

Two of our members have already posted this information, once here in this Beginners forum and also in the Theravada forum on the previous website. I'm sorry but we don't need it again a third time, so I am going to remove it. Here's the other thread.

http://www.buddhismwithoutboundaries...light=newcomer

This beginners forum is mainly meant for newcomers to ask questions to the rest of the group rather than for members to post resources that they like.

Would you like to introduce yourself to us in the New Member Welcome and Introductions forum ?

with metta,

Aloka-D
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Old 08-27-2011, 01:24 AM   #3
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My apology for any inconvenience. (My first day here.)

Please remove it.

Many thanks for the information.
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Old 08-27-2011, 01:27 AM   #4
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No problem ! Can you just leave a link in your post please rather than copying
and pasting it all ?


Thank you
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Old 08-27-2011, 01:48 AM   #5
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OK, just the link is also fine. So, I put the links of other books for additional information.

http://usa.learndhamma.com/pramote/b...Guide_book.pdf

http://usa.learndhamma.com/pramote/b...2008-04-22.pdf

http://usa.learndhamma.com/pramote/b...wcomer_eng.pdf

http://usa.learndhamma.com/pramote/b...1_20080705.pdf

http://usa.learndhamma.com/pramote/b...2.20080425.pdf

Many thanks
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Old 08-29-2011, 06:51 PM   #6
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Hi ngodngam, Welcome to BWB.
Thank you very much for your link. I didn't khow that the usa.learndhamema.com have these books.
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Old 08-29-2011, 09:49 PM   #7
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Welcome and thanks for the links, ngodngam.
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Old 08-30-2011, 01:10 AM   #8
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Nice to meet you both, Sukitlek and FBM.
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Old 08-30-2011, 01:15 AM   #9
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Nice to meet you both, Sukitlek and FBM.
Likewise. I hope to learn more about your background and experiences in Buddhism. My experience is limited and I learn something from everyone I read about.
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Old 08-31-2011, 09:20 AM   #10
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Likewise. I hope to learn more about your background and experiences in Buddhism. My experience is limited and I learn something from everyone I read about.
If we learn from outside, it will never end. The best way is to learn from inner ourself (i.e. our mind and body). Without practicing, all dhamma are uesless. What we learn outside is just to find "how to practice". Once, we know how to practice, next thing to do is just practice it and learn from inner ourself. My background and experiences are useless to you as they are not related to your body and mind. Although you know everything about me, you are still suffering for sure. But if you truely know everything about your body and mind by practicing, you can get away from suffering.
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Old 08-31-2011, 10:14 AM   #11
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If we learn from outside, it will never end. The best way is to learn from inner ourself (i.e. our mind and body). Without practicing, all dhamma are uesless. What we learn outside is just to find "how to practice". Once, we know how to practice, next thing to do is just practice it and learn from inner ourself. My background and experiences are useless to you as they are not related to your body and mind. Although you know everything about me, you are still suffering for sure. But if you truely know everything about your body and mind by practicing, you can get away from suffering.
Sure, but as we are a Buddhist community of people from around the world, its nice to relax and share a little something about ourselves with others in the group !
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Old 08-31-2011, 10:18 AM   #12
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Sure, but as we are a Buddhist community of people from around the world, its nice to relax and share a little something about ourselves with others in the group !
Thanks and agreed. (However, should not be too relax. We do not know what time we will die and it is very very difficult to be a human. And it is so more difficult to meet the Bhddha's teaching.)
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Old 08-31-2011, 10:48 AM   #13
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Thanks and agreed. (But should not be too relax. We do not know what time we will die.)
Hi ngodngam,

nice to meet you. Warmly welcome.
Following you along the other threads I can only say that having you amongst us is very valuable.
Your way of explaining the true interaction of the self, the body and the mind shows a clear experience as a Dharma teacher or what generally in this BWB is called the Dhamma.

For me they are both the accepted words for the Buddhas teachings.
However.... ordinary folks that are Buddhist by birth or want to learn about Buddhism, exchange their investigations and experiences during their first steps etc. it can be quite overwhelming to be exposed to the full power of your accomplished insight.

The demands and final consequences that come along with it to follow the path consequently is not always suitable for everyone . Many people have just a job and a family to feed and can not escape from this until their job is done and the kids stand on their own legs etc.
For them the balm of a nearby Dharma center where they can go in their free times to meditate and discuss the sudas and the pali canon texts etc. this is often the only way to learn the way. Be patient with us...even if we risk dying as hapless beginners.
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Old 08-31-2011, 03:30 PM   #14
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or what generally in this BWB is called the Dhamma.
'Dhamma' is Pali, 'Dharma' is Sanskrit, they both mean the same thing ...and our members use both.
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Old 09-02-2011, 10:27 AM   #15
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Thanks for Aloka-D for the useful clarification.

Hello Hajurba, nice to meet you and many thanks for your compliments. I have to agree with your comments. As I am also working in a private company and having a family, I understand your comments well.

Dhamma taught by the Buddha is various and wide. The Buddha did not require everyone to leave the ‘Gharavasa’ life (the household life) and enter into the ‘Pabbajjita’ life (monk life). On the contrary, the Buddha taught many ways to practice since we are still in ‘Gharavasa’ life. And practicing in ‘Gharavasa’ life could also lead us to reach the ‘Sotāpanna’ (the stream-winner)

Also the Dhamma taught by the Buddha is for various levels since the beginner to the master and until ‘Arahanta’. So, everyone could select and take any part or level of the Buddha’s teaching which is matched to his own level and his own ‘Carita’ (instrinsic nature of a person). It would not be wrong for anyone to focus on different part or level of Buddha’s teaching since everyone could have different ‘Bala’ (Dhamma strength).

There have been long arguments between two groups of followers (i.e. the first group who focus on studying theory and the second group who focus on practicing real) whether which way/group is more useful. In view of the third group (which I agree with this), both studying theory and practicing real are both important.

We should not just study theory without practicing real; otherwise we do not gain real benefits from such study. It is like we study how to swim but we do not go swimming. We should not just practicing real without studying theory; otherwise we have nothing to check whether we go to the right way or wrong way. It is like we travel without a map, so we would not know even though we are lost. So, in fact, both studying theory and practicing real support to each other.

On another issue, practicing Dhamma does not require anything special, it is normal, simple and convenient. And we can do it anywhere. There are two questions which I would share.
There was a female millionaire asking a question to a senior monk long time ago.

She asked ‘Where should I go to practice Dhamma?’
The senior monk replied ‘We practice Dhamma without mind and body. Whereever you go you have to bring your mind and body with you. So, the place does not matter. Your mind and body do.’

She further asked ‘I am very busy in my business and have no time to practice Dhamma.’
The senior monk asked ‘Do you breath?’
‘Yes, all the time’ She replied.
The senior said ‘If you have time to breath, you surely have time to practice. It is just that you do not know how to practice when you breath in your daily life.’

So, according to the two questions/answers above, if we truly understand how to practice, it does not matter whether where we are, e.g. working place, hallway, supermarket, temple, toilet, bed room, school bus, taxi etc., we can practice. Because we have our mind and body to practice at that time. In other words, practicing Dhamma and having the household life do not conflict to each other. The real question is that how could we synchronize them or how could we practice in our household life.

Some people set their own conditions that they can practice only when they go the temple on a holiday, or they can practice only when they are in a specific place or a specific atmosphere. In fact, such conditions (set by himself) deceive himself for not practicing. It is like a spider shoots its web and then it is caught by its own web and cannot move anywhere.

If we set a condition that we can practice Dhamma only at temple on Sunday, it means that we go forward on Sunday but in other six days we could go back. So, at the end, how far we would go. If we set a condition that we have to practice in our bed room, it means that when we are at other places we could go back. How much time we spend in our bed room for practicing, and how much time we spend in bed room and other places for other activities.

So, the key is that we have to synchronize practicing to our daily life. Whenever we breath if we aware of our mind and body, it is already the time which we practice. On the contrary, if we breath, and we forget that our body is breathing or moving, or our mind is thinking, or feeling, it means that our breath is just waste and we do not practice.

I do not require anyone to follow my comments (due to the reasons explained above) or tell that my comments are correct or whatsoever. Everyone can take his/her own path which he/she views that it is useful to his/her studying and practicing.

Cheers with warm regards
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