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Old 08-27-2011, 04:57 AM   #1
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Default The tortoise and the hare symtom
Greed is a great stimules in suffering .But i beleive you are better off at the bottom of
mountian than at the top .Millions of people suffer in world where Greed outways
peoples needs .If we get rid of this primitve belief of suvival of the fitess .The world
will become one .Like the tortoise i believe watching the fools waste there time
trying to achieve happyness by greed is the best way to win the race .
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Old 08-27-2011, 05:14 AM   #2
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To me i have tried my best to find love in a world where it is not alloud to exsist .
Because in a world dominated by the suvival of the fitess rule it is seen as weakness.
And now find find that in my comuinity everyone is becomeing more and
more isolated and more fearfull of each other .Ulless someone like me is willing to change
people idoligy on there values things will only get worse .
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Old 08-27-2011, 05:21 AM   #3
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Hi Luv22,

As you are not asking the group separate questions in your posts but are just expressing some thoughts, I have put them together in one thread.

with kind wishes,

Aloka-D
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Old 08-27-2011, 08:58 AM   #4
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I was not sure how to work this forum i did not no it was one way i would perfer a multy consepsial
exspresive system .mind you i believe the esence of Budhism is to allow greative thought that is based
on truth, commen sense and harmony.Thanks Any body who want to know me call
me by my name
Darren .I want to learn about Budhisim But all faiths have one importent flor
witch makes them hipercritical they break the thal thalt not kill rule .I believe
this rule is only exceptable when it comes to food .
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Old 08-27-2011, 09:48 AM   #5
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Dear Luv22 - the way for a person to enter into Dhamma is to study and understand himself/herself.
If the Buddha spent his life time to find loves in the world, but does not spend time on study himself,
he would not be successful to be the Buddha.

The esence of Budhism is not "allowing greative thought that is based on truth, commen sense and harmony".
The essence of Budhism is to 'understand the truth' of our body and mind so that we could walk away from the sufferings,
and we can get out of the indefinite transmigration.

Different people could have 'different' greative thought or like.
For example, pasta may be delicious for ones but not for the others. Ones may like cold weather but the others may not.
So, 'thought' is not real, and Adhipanna-sikkha is not 'thinking'. The wisdom has to come from practicing real.
For example, a person can think or dream that he is a president or a miss universe but it is not real.

The praticing is to focus on something real. For example, happiness, unhappiness, angriness,
greed, suffering of ones and the others would be the same and is more real than thinking.
These books may be useful to you on the way of practing.
http://usa.learndhamma.com/pramote/b...wcomer_eng.pdf
http://usa.learndhamma.com/pramote/b...Guide_book.pdf

Cheers
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Old 08-27-2011, 11:47 AM   #6
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I understand to be enlightend one must focus on ones iner self thats all i ever do because no one else
unstands me i believe i should start to put others first and break this vicious cycle where no one cares .
It,s because were all so self encroced about perfection that nothing is perfect .Jesus said lead by example.
But we all have differnt example that we live by how can you teach the world to all sing the same song.
I believe the world has allways sang the same song but no one can hear it .Only
now is it making it self herd .I am the lord of the dance said he . I have never
stopped dacing to this song .I will have to leave this site soon it distracting me
away from the truth But if you think you can help i will read your response
This is a poem i thought years ago .I AM FOOL OF FOOLS THE KING THAT
NEVER RULES THE STONE UPON THE GROUND THAT IS NEVER FOUND .
THE STONE IS ME AND IT IS LOVE .A world without love is a world wthout meaning to escape from it is like a life without meaning .Being a one man band
in this world is like be stuck between a rock and hard place .I just wish everyone
would stop throwing stones at each other and find love true love in there hearts
instead .That is the only real way to escape from suffering .
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Old 08-27-2011, 01:11 PM   #7
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I realise you can,t walk away from god Yet you do not have to be a slave to god we are free and he has
allways had my best intrest had heart because he has read heart like he reads the hearts of world .We
are tested to learn we learn to live we live to love .Everything is sacrificed for one truth and that truth
is love without it there is nothing .I belive i could be all things to all of mankind
but i will not be a light or some one who willing to take the blame .The
sacrifice was made 2000 year ago little did he know that it was not the world
that was blind it was the other way round that is why the the power of love is
so great . Everything i know is right This is a world where the blind lead the blind
and those in control pretend to lead the blind .
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Old 08-27-2011, 01:40 PM   #8
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Mankind climed the ladder of truth a long time ago in differnt place and time this life is a just final perfomance .
And we are all takeing part wether we like it or not .some of us watch it and some are actors .
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Old 08-27-2011, 05:55 PM   #9
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I understand to be enlightend one must focus on ones iner self thats all i ever do because no one else
unstands me i believe i should start to put others first and break this vicious cycle where no one cares .
It,s because were all so self encroced about perfection that nothing is perfect .Jesus said lead by example.
But we all have differnt example that we live by how can you teach the world to all sing the same song.
I believe the world has allways sang the same song but no one can hear it .Only
now is it making it self herd .I am the lord of the dance said he . I have never
stopped dacing to this song .I will have to leave this site soon it distracting me
away from the truth But if you think you can help i will read your response
This is a poem i thought years ago .I AM FOOL OF FOOLS THE KING THAT
NEVER RULES THE STONE UPON THE GROUND THAT IS NEVER FOUND .
THE STONE IS ME AND IT IS LOVE .A world without love is a world wthout meaning to escape from it is like a life without meaning .Being a one man band
in this world is like be stuck between a rock and hard place .I just wish everyone
would stop throwing stones at each other and find love true love in there hearts
instead .That is the only real way to escape from suffering .
If you will love, there must be something or someone for you to love. So, your escape way will have to rely on something or someone outside which you could not control.

If in this world, there are only two of you and your girlfriend. Both of you are in love with each other. If one of you is sick or die, would the other suffer? If you love your dog so much and it loves you so, and it dies by any reason, would you feel suffering? There is only love and no hate in my examples, but there is also suffering.
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Old 08-27-2011, 11:47 PM   #10
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Every faith says good things. Rule and laws i try to live by .But the world sets it,s own rules witch stops
me the one true perfection wicth is real love .The only good thing i have in my life is music and my pet cat .
To me my only hope in obtaining truth and perfection is with the power of music . Beyond that there is no hope
and love .To want to escape from life is to have a life that is meaningless .I do feel like my life is fixed
but with my love for music and my hope fore love life may still count for something .Have you ever herd of
sods law it where you made to live a life where everthing that can go wrong does go wrong .
It seems to me that the worst sin you can comit is to disire real love .No wonder i am a sucker for punishment.
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Old 08-28-2011, 01:12 AM   #11
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From now on i will become anti everthing ecsept love Because there are to many floors and things that are
out to make life impossible to live .If i have to bend the rules to get a life i will but will allways stay true to my
values based on true love .If this world wants to be stupid let it . Supertramp said it,s me for me and you
for you WITHOUT LOVE IT WILL ALLWAYS BE THAT WAY .
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Old 08-28-2011, 01:49 AM   #12
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in Buddhism, there are four ways of developing liberation & freedom of the heart

one of the ways is by infinite love
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Old 08-28-2011, 03:56 AM   #13
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hi darren, i've been reading your posts with interest. You express your thinking and your suffering in each post. some of the replies have been helpful, but there is no sign you have noticed what has been posted to you. Honestly you are not alone in feeling the way that you do, but if you want anything to change you need to make a connection with others too.

the world would be a better place with more love in it, for sure. you cannot change the world but you can change your self. We have a word for it, in buddhism, it's metta.

It involves putting out loving-kindness, first to yourself, then to those near you, then to others, and finally to the whole world. it's not easy to do this genuinely and honestly. There's no one to judge you but yourself, so you can't fake it.

You seem to have very good intentions, and almost everyone in the world wants to receive love, so you really can make a difference by giving out love to everyone in your life, expecting nothing in return. The more love you give, the more you may find.
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Old 08-28-2011, 06:53 AM   #14
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hi darren, i've been reading your posts with interest. You express your thinking and your suffering in each post. some of the replies have been helpful, but there is no sign you have noticed what has been posted to you. Honestly you are not alone in feeling the way that you do, but if you want anything to change you need to make a connection with others too.

the world would be a better place with more love in it, for sure. you cannot change the world but you can change your self. We have a word for it, in buddhism, it's metta.

It involves putting out loving-kindness, first to yourself, then to those near you, then to others, and finally to the whole world. it's not easy to do this genuinely and honestly. There's no one to judge you but yourself, so you can't fake it.

You seem to have very good intentions, and almost everyone in the world wants to receive love, so you really can make a difference by giving out love to everyone in your life, expecting nothing in return. The more love you give, the more you may find.
Beautiful post for Darren Woodscooter,

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Old 08-28-2011, 09:52 AM   #15
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Beautiful post for Darren Woodscooter,

Hi Darren, Namaste!

do not give up onto your ordeal. Start with a small thing. Find a flower and put it into a vase. Then place it on your desk! Give yourself something that cheers you up. Just a little first step. Then send a flower to others. Maybe to our forum members . We all really care about you.
I am SURE!

Here I send you a flower picture from my own garden. It was given to me by my granddaughter and now I want to pass this picture onward to you!
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Old 08-30-2011, 01:08 AM   #16
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Every faith says good things. Rule and laws i try to live by .But the world sets it,s own rules witch stops
me the one true perfection wicth is real love .The only good thing i have in my life is music and my pet cat .
To me my only hope in obtaining truth and perfection is with the power of music . Beyond that there is no hope
and love .To want to escape from life is to have a life that is meaningless .I do feel like my life is fixed
but with my love for music and my hope fore love life may still count for something .Have you ever herd of
sods law it where you made to live a life where everthing that can go wrong does go wrong .
It seems to me that the worst sin you can comit is to disire real love .No wonder i am a sucker for punishment.
The loudest music in the universe is 'silence'. All songs are temporary, they start and end, and return to silence.
Shall we put our final hope on something temporary?
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Old 08-31-2011, 10:05 AM   #17
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