[BronUVT]

Hey there,
I am in an relationship with a very eager practitioner of Buddhism. Now my question ! Should my partner also listen to the statements of her master in regards of our relationship, as he says that we are not good for each other and that she will suffer a bad disease in the next couple of years in case we stay together.

Now she wants to take that one as reason to stop our relationship although we had a very deep partnership so far. Is it common that Masters interact in those kind of matters.

As for me it is a real struggle to understand those kind of things.

[hictchewisa]

That is not common at all. In fact, very disgusting. What kind of Master is that? Did he give reasons? How does he know? How long has she been going to him? How does he know she will suffer a bad disease? (Not a single Buddhist alive today can give premonitions like that)

[GenManagerS]

Hey there,
I am in an relationship with a very eager practitioner of Buddhism. Now my question ! Should my partner also listen to the statements of her master in regards of our relationship, as he says that we are not good for each other and that she will suffer a bad disease in the next couple of years in case we stay together.

Now she wants to take that one as reason to stop our relationship although we had a very deep partnership so far. Is it common that Masters interact in those kind of matters.

As for me it is a real struggle to understand those kind of things.

Hi funnysneezer and welcome,

I think I would need to have more details about this before presuming to give an opinion about someone I don't know.

You haven't said what kind of a Buddhist group your partner belongs to, or why she would be talking about her relationship with you to the teacher.

Are there any reasons why her teacher would say she might suffer a disease ? It seems like a very odd thing to say. I will try to make a guess until you provide more details....are you sleeping with other women for example?

Kind wishes

Aloka

[Fegemiembendy]

I am in an relationship with a very eager practitioner of Buddhism. Now my question ! Should my partner also listen to the statements of her master in regards of our relationship, as he says that we are not good for each other and that she will suffer a bad disease in the next couple of years in case we stay together.

Some forms of Buddhism give great importance to the master student relationship, others don't. I belong to one that doesn't but even if I belonged to one that does I'd find the above highly inappropriate. Unless the master has your medical records what right does he have to predict the relationship will lead to your partner contracting a disease?

I don't think Buddhist teachers shouldn't be meddling in the relationships of their students, nor predicting the future. Your partner may be involved in a cult, if she doesn't want to listen to reason it may be better for you to move on.

[mikeydesignzinc]

Not a single Buddhist alive today can give premonitions like that

Though I don't know the teacher in question so I cannot comment on this teacher specifically, all I can say is you would be surprised at the abilities of a realized Master

A true Bodhisattva has no agenda's of their own and they do not live through the limited view that we do.

Terma

[PriernPayorse]

Not really. I understand what you are saying. But then again, anyone who deeply looks at something, from all views, seeing it for what it really is, they can make very educated guesses as to what might happen. Like a high ranking General in a military organisation would, after having read the histories of many battles and wars, the techniques and strategies used, after having experienced battle on many different grounds and against many different enemies/weapons. That General can go into a battle with a good 'premonition' as to how well the war will fare.

For example, this mans premonition of her suffering a bad disease in the next couple of years. Science and logic shows that the only way this would happen, would be the result of her environment and lifestyle, her genetics and biology, not her 'just being with a man', unless he has aides, HIV, Herpes, anything contagious, etc. She would not suffer the disease simply for staying in a relationship.


Premonitions suggest 'Pre-Destination' in themselves, when that is utterly illogical and impossible, because as Buddhists, we believe in Karma, cause and effect, and the environment/surroundings/society is the effect from many, many, many different causes, brought on by many, many, many different people, animals, insects, weather influences, etc, etc. That is the only way a person can truly make a premonition of sorts, one that 'will' happen no matter what, is by taking a look at the many causes being created in a particular situation every day, and 'tracing ahead of time' where the effects might lead.


From what it sounds like from the OP, the Master and him do not even know eachother, so that Master cannot make any educated guesses at all as to what will happen, because he does not know the 'other half' of the equation.

[bingookenoo]

I would say that the both of you together should meet with this master. If he truly is a master the he will provide truth to the both of you together instead of just a one sided view.

[hereiamguy]

Hello funnysneezer,

I agree with Goofaholix and Aloka. In my experience, that sounds very odd

[NikkitaZ]

I don't see how the master could possibly know that she's going to have a bad disease. Also how much does he know about your relationship where he can say that you're bad for each other. I don't like the sound of the whole thing.

[viagra-kaufen]

To answer your question directly, i dont think a student should listen to whatever the Master's advice all the time. In fact, i dont think we need a master at all!

In my opinion, practitioners who choose to follow others, and allow them to control and interfer in their personal lives (such as relationships) are partly to blame.

[U5pz6B71]

To answer your question directly, i dont think a student should listen to whatever the Master's advice all the time. In fact, i dont think we need a master at all!

In my opinion, practitioners who choose to follow others, and allow them to control and interfer in their personal lives (such as relationships) are partly to blame.

I Agree. Use your own rationality and intellect, your logic, to decide anything at all. A Master is only their to guide and give advice, to share his own personal experience and wisdom, not to impose on anything too personal.

[gregmcal]

Hey there,
I am in an relationship with a very eager practitioner of Buddhism. Now my question ! Should my partner also listen to the statements of her master in regards of our relationship, as he says that we are not good for each other and that she will suffer a bad disease in the next couple of years in case we stay together.

First things first. Who has decided this teacher is a "master"? And how did they reach this conclusion?

If lots of smart, happy people know this teacher well, trust and respect him, there's probably a good reason. On the other hand, if the master has pronounced himself a master, that's a possible problem. If he's remote, mysterious, controlling, extremist, or has a small following of apparently misguided people, that's another possible problem.

Cultural differences can make a difference. A really wise Tibetan master, for example, might admit he does not understand Western ways and might wisely withhold advice on certain topics. Some other well-qualified teachers from non-Western cultures might give seriously bad advice, arising from cultural misunderstandings.

Also, keep in mind, your partner might have confided in her teacher, might have expressed serious doubts about her future happiness with you. Perhaps the "master" has really only been a good listener. In that case, the master is not the source of the problem. Maybe you need to listen more carefully to her concerns.

I'm only guessing here. It's easy to guess wrong.

Hope this helps.


Bopshi

[MizzDaizzy]

Hi Bundokji.

I intuitively affirm your comments.

I do not think all professed Masters are infallible by a long shot.

Even a professed Buddhist Bhikku could be going on an ego trip like Osho.....................

[SeLvesTr]

Perhaps funnysneezer will return to give us some feedback and a few more details about the situation.