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03-03-2012, 12:25 AM | #2 |
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I agree with her that we need to try and end the physical suffering of people as well as I'm sure Eckhart Tolle does. I think she may misunderstand the idea of surrendering to the present moment. It doesn't mean you accept things as they are and therefore make no attempt to change the world. Just because you accept things as they are in the present moment does not mean you cannot try to change what is wrong with the world. Thich Nhat Hanh (an enlightened monk) had ideas for world peace which caused Martin Luther King Jr. to nominate him for a nobel peace prize.
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03-03-2012, 03:22 AM | #3 |
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Nice video. Very interesting. I'm sure many look at things this way.
Personally I would say that the living in the moment and surrendering of such thoughts and relieving self of suffering in this way is good. It's a step. Then I would say that when people do this and then use their found 'wisdom' to become a 'guru' which only the rich can afford and thus build up wealth for themselves withoutany apparent desire to help others outside of that clique then I would say they still have far to go. On the other hand if their teachings are reaching out and benefitting others in their lives then they are doing well. To approach the world situations wanting to provide better solutions is a field in itself, almost a different subject. I say this from the view of life can be looked at in various parts ie: how you relate to yourself, how you relate to others and vice versa, how others relate to each other and how all these things affect the whole. So how to help self is one step from which you may then look into the broader field. Peace.G. |
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03-03-2012, 04:55 AM | #4 |
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I can see where she's coming from and I have heard this a lot from people when the subject of suffering comes up. Yet, there is very little that can be done to end external suffering once and for all. If all wars ceased and all were fed, then there would still be terminal illnesses and other nasty stuff. We'd still all age and die in the very best case.
Not saying that compassion and pro-active aid doesn't make any difference, rather it will always have its limits. Even Buddha couldn't stop himself getting old, sick and dying. We are feasting on this state. It's what brought us here and will continue to do so, unless we drop it. As a mechanism - a process - we're designed to. Suffering is hard-wired to the whole proposition. I don't know anything about Tolle and (like the lady) I'm non too fond myself of slick modern celebrity gurus with their wealthy entourages. I agree with Trilaksana about her misunderstanding being in the present moment though. We can't carpet the world but by wearing shoes we have a workable alternative. |
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03-03-2012, 09:52 AM | #5 |
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Any speech that encourages people to do something to improve the quality of life of others mostly in social, economic, health, education skills disadvantage is welcome. Also this approach is needed for the wealth of everybody.
This current capitalist system is collapsing. Using the analogy of massive extinctions like the one of the dinosaurs, little simple ways of living are developing here and there taking knowledge from ancient indigenous cultures brought into the present in organized social systems using regional resources, like those small primitive mammals that developed successfully after the demise of dinosaurs. About Tolle, I have never read about him or any of his teachings. However, it seems that this young woman has a different approach about living the present moment. In my understanding, the present moment happens in a peaceful mind, in a still mind, open, sensible and mindful. To live the present moment is not a singularity or a stagnation aloof from our surroundings. On the contrary. The present moment, due to a peaceful mind, is a dynamic dimension where deep understanding of things is happening all the time -while the present moment endures- without the taints of mental fabrication, without the delusion of the self. So, I acknowledge the commitment she is asking to improve the live of others but I can't tell about Tolle or what she has understood from his writings. |
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