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Dear Madina-Spike,

Attachment in many instances helps people go further. If Edison did not attach himself to the lighting bulp, we were all be at the darknes at nights... So whatever Buddha has said sometimes may not be correct...

With metta,

Light bulbs, despite how dependent people are on them, causes attachments. As can be said of all modern inventions. They're not necessary. People got on fine before they were invented.

Chai yen

[Ingeborga]

Light bulbs, despite how dependent people are on them, causes attachments. As can be said of all modern inventions. They're not necessary. People got on fine before they were invented.

Chai yen

My dear,

If above is in the mind, then this mind should not have a right to use computers...

All one needs to have valuable attachments in order to go further in every way...

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The pain, say a kidney pain, or a cancer patient's pain, or any other physical pain, lets assume that is not mine, how one will let it go?...

Bothi

in cases of terminal pain, the mind "lets it go" by accepting it, by not resisting it, by letting go of the craving for the pain to be otherwise, by reflecting upon it with wisdom that sickness & death are inevitable, by understanding physical pain is of the body & of the nervous system and not "mine".

suffering is suffering. If Buddha has had distinquished this suffering dividing into two groups, thenn I would buy it...

Buddha did distinguish suffering into two groups. but buying it will not help. one must practise to learn how to let go of physical pain

kind regards

Buddha said:

When an untaught worldling is touched by a painful (bodily) feeling, he worries and grieves, he laments, beats his breast, weeps and is distraught. He thus experiences two kinds of feelings, a bodily and a mental feeling. It is as if a man were pierced by a dart and, following the first piercing, he is hit by a second dart. So that person will experience feelings caused by two darts. It is similar with an untaught worldling: when touched by a painful (bodily) feeling, he worries and grieves, he laments, beats his breast, weeps and is distraught. So he experiences two kinds of feeling: a bodily and a mental feeling.

But in the case of a well-taught noble disciple, O monks, when he is touched by a painful feeling, he will not worry nor grieve and lament, he will not beat his breast and weep, nor will he be distraught. It is one kind of feeling he experiences, a bodily one, but not a mental feeling. It is as if a man were pierced by a dart, but was not hit by a second dart following the first one. So this person experiences feelings caused by a single dart only. It is similar with a well-taught noble disciple: when touched by a painful feeling, he will no worry nor grieve and lament, he will not beat his breast and weep, nor will he be distraught. He experiences one single feeling, a bodily one.

Sallatha Sutta: The Dart

[Elaltergephah]

It has been said that "pain is inevitable, suffering is optional"

Understanding the difference between pain and suffering is essential for understanding the Buddha's teaching in my opinion.

Well spoken, well explained.

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Dear Element,

Sorrow, suffering, pain are not different. Suffering includes physical and mental pains too. No matter what you do, whether accept it or not, even if, say it is just a pain, without stating ''my pain'' pain never goes away...Pain is always there as long as the main cause of the pain stays there. So every pain has nothing to do with any attachment as stated by Buddha..For instance kidney stone is the cause of kidney pain which has no relation with attachement at all...

Actually one way dealing with a physical pain is to get into it...But kidney pains has fluctutions in its intensities very often, so no matter what you do, you will not get rid of it untill it stops itself...

Another thing related to attachment issue, some attachments are a sort of requrement, if we want to advance our lives. All the famous inventions are the result of strong attachments. So we can conclude that attachments, if are in good will, then we can harvest good result at the end of these attachments.

With metta

[JasminBerkova]

The pain, say a kidney pain, or a cancer patient's pain, or any other physical pain, lets assume that is not mine, how one will let it go?

you hit the nail

just the assumption 'that pain is not mine' is not enough to let 'it' go

you have to 'see' with wisdom 'that is not mine' then 'it' itself go or 'you let go of the pain'

to understand the difference between the 'assuming' and 'seeing' the pain, you have to meditate

meditate does not mean the concentration on breath or another object, but concentrate on 'your pain' and see what happen to it

in another post you said 'the pain is changing'

if the pain is yours, ask it to 'go away'

if it is yours, it should be listened to your orders

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Sorrow, suffering, pain are not different.

pain never goes away...

yes, there are circumstances where pain never goes away

but sorrow & suffering can go away

this is buddha's teaching

regards

[Lilji]

Attachment in many instances helps people go further. If Edison did not attach himself to the lighting bulp, we were all be at the darknes at nights... So whatever Buddha has said sometimes may not be correct...

The attachments indicted by the Buddha were much more of a personal nature, as he warned that person-to-person bonds can lead to dilluisonment -- since people are, at best, only human -- and, with that, the pain and sorow of human existence. He later attenuated his disdain for personal relationships, suggesting his "middle way," meaning, just don't overdo it.

He very likely did not intend to decry one's devotion to a project for the improvement of quality of life. Monks in Thailand, I know, avail themselves of state-of-the-art audio-visual aids in their Dharma sermonizing.

Overall, the Buddha seems to have been a pretty good observer of human nature.

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Sorrow, suffering, pain are not different. Suffering includes physical and mental pains too

Hi Bothi,

You might find this short article by Bhikkhu Bodhi helpful:

Living with pain, not with suffering

"As long as we have bodies, we will have physical pain. Buddhism promises no escape from that. What we can change is how we experience pain.

Bhikkhu Bodhi offers a technique to lessen mental suffering of pain, look at its true nature and learn its valuable lessons"

Continued at link :

http://www.dhammaweb.net/dhamma_news/view.php?id=304

with kind regards,

Aloka

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Emptiness is important in Buddhism because it explains in part the nature of mind, which is indeed the nature of everything. One cannot be a Buddha - a completely enlightened being - or even an Arhant without the realization of the nature of our own mind and thus every phenomena. One way at getting to know the nature of our mind is through emptiness. Another way is through the notion of Non-Self.

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Emptiness is so important because it is the nature of all things. Just as a reflection in a drop of water is empty of actual existence being just a reflection, so the entire ego is also empty of substantiality.

The issue of physical pain is only ended with the death of the body and preventing a rebirth. The Buddha did experience physical pain, but he endured the pain with equinimity of mind. The Buddha also lived for 80 years, an impressive feat 1000 years ago let alone 2500 years ago. So although the Dhamma includes a psychological freedom from suffering, the Dhamma also contains physical advice such as living without attachment to possessions to avoid the stress those possessions cause to our bodies. Difficult, but not impossible.