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Old 08-31-2011, 11:46 AM   #21
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[...]...be patient with this old goat here...[...]
That was sweet hajurba! I love goats. I had one as a pet. It was a beautiful female Töggenburg breed.

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Old 08-31-2011, 12:08 PM   #22
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your pet goat must have had a very good life. Here in Nepal....you don't want to know about it. By the way...who knows the Folk Tale about

The Goat Who Saved the Priest ?
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Old 08-31-2011, 04:01 PM   #23
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your pet goat must have had a very good life. Here in Nepal....you don't want to know about it. By the way...who knows the Folk Tale about

The Goat Who Saved the Priest ?
It's from the Jataka Tales - which may have originated and been adapted from Hindu stories.
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Old 08-31-2011, 05:53 PM   #24
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I used to love Monkey too, Kris, I just wish I'd paid more attention to the philosophical bits and not the punch ups when I was a kid!
Same here
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Old 08-31-2011, 05:56 PM   #25
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Thanks hajurba, I didn't know about that.
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Old 08-31-2011, 06:42 PM   #26
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Thanks hajurba, I didn't know about that.
You are welcome srivijaya .....

me neither...I just run into it when I searched this morning (KTM Eastern Time) for Buddhist Myths and lore
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Old 09-01-2011, 10:08 AM   #27
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your pet goat must have had a very good life. Here in Nepal....you don't want to know about it. By the way...who knows the Folk Tale about

The Goat Who Saved the Priest ?
Thanks hajurba,

I am not good at tales, but this one remembered me the "Golden Rule" of Buddha at SN 55.7 here:

"I am one who wishes to live, who does not wishes to die. I desire happiness and disilike suffering. Since I am one who wishes to live... and dislike suffering, if someone were to take my life, that would not be pleasing and agreeable to me.
Now, if I were to take the life of another -of one who wishes to live, who does not wish to die, who desires happiness and dislikes suffering- that would not be desirable and agreeable to him, too.
What is undesirable and disagreeable to me is undesirable and disagreeable to others, too. How can I inflict upon another what is undesirable and disagreeable to me?
Having reflected thus, he himself refrains from harming life, exhorts others to refrain from harming life, and speaks in praise of refraining from harming life.
Thus his bodily conduct is purified in three respects.
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Old 09-18-2011, 12:59 PM   #28
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Found this article today on BBC World Service....the issue about Religion, Myths and Metaphors keeps the world forever busy.
Its a long article and it is getting more to the (non) point near the end. The upper part I see as mere "bla blah" stuff.
Still it is an interesting read.

A Point of View: Can religion tell us more than science?
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Old 09-18-2011, 09:56 PM   #29
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Hajurba, what do you make about the folklore surrounding the Yeti? Do many people in Nepal believe in it?
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Old 09-18-2011, 10:17 PM   #30
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Hajurba, what do you make about the folklore surrounding the Yeti? Do many people in Nepal believe in it?
Most Nepalese believe that the Yeti exists. It gos so far that there is a law that forbids to chase or capture one. Furthermore the Dalai Lama also has given orders to the monasteries in Nepal and Tibet to protect the Mingu (Tibetan word for Yeti...which is the local Nepalese Sherpa language).

One would never meet any ethnic Sherpa who does not believe in his existence. The American oil-millionaire To Slik from Texas who died in an air crash under mysterious circumstances had done an extended expedition in search of the Yeti about 65 years ago and he claims to have found true evidence. He was an investigator of the American Cryptology Society and his family was angry with him for wasting so much money on this issue. There is a conspiracy theory that the family ordered to killed him by tampering with his private aircraft. His files are property of the society and they seem to be open for study now...yet no one in the US seem to take that society serious enough.

Tom Slick and the Search for the Yeti
I have this book in our library. Myself ? Yes I believe it because I had a many strange encounters when I was the leader of search and rescue parties for missing people at forests in high altitude areas about 15 years ago. But that is an other story.
I only can tell this: The creature is far stronger than humans and can get away at high speed before humans reach a spot where it has being dwelling. Perhaps the Yeti is as intelligent as a simple local human and does not want to spend time in a Zoo!
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Old 09-18-2011, 10:26 PM   #31
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Found this article today on BBC World Service....the issue about Religion, Myths and Metaphors keeps the world forever busy.
Its a long article and it is getting more to the (non) point near the end. The upper part I see as mere "bla blah" stuff.
Still it is an interesting read.

A Point of View: Can religion tell us more than science?
Thanks for posting that. I didn't see anything indicating who the author was.

The author clearly doesn't understand science and doesn't understand that atheism and science are not belief systems.

I found this claim to be particularly preposterous:

In most religions - polytheism, Hinduism and Buddhism, Daoism and Shinto, many strands of Judaism and some Christian and Muslim traditions - belief has never been particularly important. Practice - ritual, meditation, a way of life - is what counts. What practitioners believe is secondary, if it matters at all.

The idea that religions are essentially creeds, lists of propositions that you have to accept, doesn't come from religion. It's an inheritance from Greek philosophy, which shaped much of western Christianity and led to practitioners trying to defend their way of life as an expression of what they believe.

This is where Frazer and the new atheists today come in. When they attack religion they are assuming that religion is what this western tradition says it is - a body of beliefs that needs to be given a rational justification.
Of course, if it were all about practice and not beliefs, there would have been no wars and inquisitions throughout history over those beliefs, ever. And religions would not bother to push beliefs and myths as "true" like they do.

Myths and metaphors are fine teaching tools. The problem lies in the reification of these myths and the claim that they are truths that must be believed in their own right.
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:15 PM   #32
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Most Nepalese believe that the Yeti exists.
Thanks for the information hajurba. It looks like a Russian ex-boxing champion is the latest to try to track the elusive beast down:
here
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