[remstaling]

This is a secret of buddahs teaching they do not even enforce upon supposed buddhist, but considering it was one of his main teaching none of the people can really claim to be buddhist since they do not practice this princeipal. The prinicipal is respect for all living thing, and you lie if you say you have it, for if you eat a living being that is not respect for it. You may then pull a real non buddhist words and repeat the lies you were tought when the teaching is forget everything you were tought, and reapeat you must eat to live like they told you .

\so there with that you proved you are not a real buddhist but worry not i did not know how to forget everything i was tought at first wither and was stuck with lies as my beliefs like needing to eat to live but herer i will set you free from it with some simple facts. Think on a universe being born, a big cosmic explostion and stars and planets flying out of it growing and going on outwards. There you realized it already and can imagine it, the planets and stars as you imagine grow without any need for addition of anything.

Well we are the same materials as the planets and the stars and if within those minerals and substances exists the powers to grow without the need for anything then within us also exists the powers to grow without need of eating anything or adding anything for we are the same stuff they are. Did that brings some light to mind that is what they meant by forget what you were tought.

I early oon heard if you seek the truth you will find and i did search , i reasd all the ancient teaching and everything but they didn't give me the secrerts to immortality i was looking for the keys of life, but i did find them the same keys buddah knew to become immortal and if you truly seek with your heart and believe you will find it is true.

I am an awakened one, i am an awakened reincarnate, i lived in the time of buddah and rememebr all of his teachings, in asia i was called boo i am the ancestral god of the li clan.

[Qwjyrgij]

and by rspect for all living thigs i mean full respect, as much respect you give humans, but really since you haven't unlocked your hearts of compassion alot more respect then you give anybeing

[feroiodpiop]

Welcome babiesgame,

I have had to put spacing in your first post because I'm not able to read large blocks of text properly otherwise.

I'm not really clear what it is that you want to discuss with us in relation to Theravada Buddhism, perhaps you could clarify ?

Kind regards,

A-D

[raspirator]

Ok and relevance to Theravada is....

[StivRichardOff]

all buddhist practices are based on certain principals that buddah tought like respect for all living things, that is what i was speaking about in referance to Theravada. I was trying to state to practice Theravada or any type of buddhism truly you must truly be completely good not evil and today that the major key to be truly good today is by respecting all living beings just as buddah had tought them back then when he had made all his followers immortal.

Eating a living being is not respecting them, plus seeds and stuff like that are living babys so it is really evil to eat them and kill them. If you did know what buddahs teachings were about and their purposes were then you would know part of the point of them was to make a being immortal, and another part make the beings completely good and not evil.

I thought i should share this reminder of one of his main teachings and little explination about how we do have the power within us to grow without eating and remind these buddhist about how buddah loved all beings weather plant or animal and was trying to get everyone to do so. In truth until you do no evil you will not be able to unlock your heart of compassion or even do meditation properly.

Good actions have good results evil reactions have bad results, a good result is attaing enlightenment, a bad result is not attaining it. So you can see to get any of the good result you must practice truly and fully his teaching of respecting all living things for that is the base good action you are lacking in your life and will stop you from any real attainment, you eat living feeling babys(rice for example ) and don't even have one compassionate thought toward them and they are feeling living babies. Buddah teachings were on compassion for the people neeeded it back thenlike you do today, when you become the true you and unlock your heart of compassion you will cry for those babies you killed and ate they deserve as much respect as your own babies, i don't think you would eat them if you care for them like human babies and that what respect is and you must give them that level of respect and not eat at all.

And won last saying i like to think of is, if you yourself do not search for immortality and try to attain it then you are not like buddah and will not understand his teachings.

[Nekas48]

and i just thought i should share it since it is a base teaching of all buddhist practice and if they are really hoping to aatain anything in buddhism they must practice full respect for all living things.

Forgetting what you were tought is also forgetting thinking plants do not think witch i bet you think right now, but not to worry i am just an awakened one who found the truth while seeking the ancient secrets of immortality buddah had, i am not yet enlightened but have gone through realization and awakening. plants do think, your parents only told you they don't, rocks don't think you can tell a plant is differnt from a rock.

That and many other things you will realize when you find the truths of life the great realization they talk about, and then comes awakening and when you become the real you by pacticing the secrets of immortality or the laws of life, then you will become awakened, i have already gone through realization and awakening but now am on my journey towards enlightenment it has been hard since before i cared for all living things i smoked and was and am partially addicted but am quitting.

You were tought lies about life as a child and made them oyour main belief that is what buddah ment forget what you were tought he hopes you will then seek lifes truths and realize the truths of life witch will awaken you and with the truths of life being practiced you will become enlightened.

[luspikals]

oh and in realtion as far as wanting to discuss do you think you will achieve enligtenment awakening and realization, do you seriously plan on unlocking your heart of compassion? Do you plan on learning the secrerts of buddah and how he became immortal, do you plan on trying to become immortal yourself?

[ansarigf]

welcome BabiesGam

respect for all living things is certainly most essential for awakening (even if we end up eating those living things, so they fulfil their purpose as 'food'). as you recommended, the buddha also recommended (at this link) that when we eat, we should eat as though we are eating our own babies

when you use the word 'immortality', can you share what you mean by this?

thank you

Element

[attackDoold]

Have you heard of the famous bowl of buddah he supposedly hid magicially to seem as a normal bowl and gave to one of his followers as part of the a secret budhist group that was to look to find him reincarnated one day, buddah had a temple and they said the climb was infinitely long seemingly and when you made it to the top he would offer you a bowl, and within that bowl there would be this powdered substances, it was said if you eat from his bowl you will never go hungry again never have to eat, and live forever.

So as far as tell to eat i would say what exactly to eat and buddah knew how to make food right from dirt not of any plants or stuff as science has the power to these days and soon will be getting on doing. Plus you must remember these are other peoples writings not his own recordings therefore not his own words so saying he said that is not true it is one persons claim he said that. and as far as immortality i mean like buddah became immortal, like live forever never die.

oh and always remeber that evil is the enemy of good and their are those past the thousands of years that hated buddah and tryed making false recording of his teachings to lead his followers into sinfulness.

[shihoodiacarf]

I am a reincarnate from asia and i will tell you a little story of some of the hate for good and what they did, there was this very hated boy in tibet they called the toad prince, there was the dahli lama and his pachmen, their was war between this toad prince and the dahli. The toad price would come up with questions that he thought to use to take down the dahli and the dahli would defeat him every time, he was a evil being and had evil followers, their efforts turned to physical attacks. One day the dalhi and the pachmen left and afterwards they started a group that falsified the teachings and told everyone they were the real pachmen and made fake documents and everything and every forigner that came they told they were the pachmen, they made up fake rituals and everything and searched out real buddhist and killed and tortured them in ways to try and contact evil sprits, to this day in tibet they are still active and doing evil until the real dahli lama comes, who that guy is not.

[gactanync]

The real dahli lama is an enlightened one very powerful and very intelligent, he worte the famous unfound works today the laws of darkness the law of light and he wrote the tibetan book of the dead witch he used to travel into death become dead then come back from death meeting beings that exist in the death reals. He had magical powers that were godly, he was like really powerful, he left asia , tibet and gave them this document telling when he would be reincarnated off at a borer far off and this stuff hundreds and hundreds of years later.


He is not this man that has had no special meditation experience in his life or come to any great awakening for i lived in the time when he was seeming ruler of tibet and saw him before. When you awaken you will rememebr your past lifes, all beings have existed forever and we are all reincarnate, awakening and rememebering your past lives comes with truth, when you learn the truths of life and go through realization you will become awakened. I wasn't even a practicing buddist and didn't know what they meant by realization or awakening and didn't think it would happen for me i just search for the keys of life the keys of immortality and with findng them came realization and awakening.

Some of these texts on buddah are false recording made by groups that were evil and hate buddah and the darli, the ones that searched for him reincarnate were looking to kill him that is why he was not found he is a master of minds and led them away from him to look in the wrong place.

[h98hhYxM]

the pachmen

Ah, perhaps they were distant relatives of the Cabbage Patch kids.

Ok, well I think that's more that enough now of the material you've been posting,

babiesgame, - and its totally inappropriate for the Theravada forum. No more of it

now, thanks. Lets chat instead.


Do you know anything about the Four Noble Truths at all ?

[SkeniaInhilla]

babiesgame, welcone to BWB, but I have to say that this thread doesn't look like a sincere attempt to discuss Buddhism. Please explain what you hope to achieve, or the thread may be closed. Thanks!

[Grenader]

I am an awakened one, i am an awakened reincarnate, i lived in the time of buddah and rememebr all of his teachings, in asia i was called boo i am the ancestral god of the li clan.

Friend, there are four kinds of expression rightly proclaimed by the Blessed One who knows and sees, accomplished and fully enlightened.

What four? Telling the seen as it is seen; telling the heard as it is heard; telling the sensed as it is sensed; telling the cognized as it is cognized.

These, friend, are the four kinds of expression rightly proclaimed by the Blessed One who knows and sees, accomplished and fully enlightened.

How does the venerable one know, how does he see, regarding these four kinds of expression, so that through not clinging his mind is liberated from the taints?

[metropropuskruww]

well i just am opioned to follow buddhism properly one must follow buddahs example in caring for all living things, truly compassionate towards life you care for all living things, what i hope to achieve by my post is just try and get some buddhists out there to try and truly follow in his example like i am trying for the world need more compassionate beings that care for all the living things of the earth.

I also just wanted to help these buddhist, for if they truly hope to achieve in meditation and such and actually experience some great things they will have to be being fully moral in action to do so or karma will block them, and i don't think anybodyy else has enlightened them with that fact about how planets and suns grow to be without need of add of anything, growing without eating and we are material like them so within us exists that power to grow without need add of anything, no eating, i just hoped to enlighten them and show them their is a way to not eat aka not sin by eating baby living beings like seeds.

Listen i had trouble knowing what they meant by forget everything you were tought, when i tryed i didn't kreally know what to foeget, but that concept of needing to eat to grow or live, is one of those things i later came by after searching all my life and i just hoped to share my realization of the teaching forget what you were tought.

[FliveGell]

i just hoped to share my realization of the teaching forget what you were tought.

Its good that you're aware of a need to care for all beings but I don't really think we want to forget about the rest of the Dhamma taught by the Buddha.

Try reading this and clicking the MP3 under the title to listen as well

http://www.dhammasukha.org/Study/Tal...T-MAR03-TS.htm

[alex_loudermilk]

babiesgame, your concept of morality is based on behavior, not intent. That is characteristic of the teachings of the brahmins that the Buddha opposed. He placed morality firmly in intent, a mental function, rather than in behavior, a merely physical one.

A person with a defiled mind can go through the right motions for the wrong reasons and end up with the same defilements they started with. It is said that Napoleon's donkey accompanied him on every campaign, but in the end still knew nothing of military strategy.

We should first sincerely set out to cultivate right intent through an exacting examination of experience, particularly that of suffering, both our own and that of others. Compassion naturally follows. Merely obeying dogma such as a prohibition against eating the bodies of once-living beings does not in itself lead to compassion, nor is it reliable evidence of compassion.