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Old 07-08-2012, 10:29 PM   #21
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Fortunately today Webber made the pass on Alonso well away from the DRS zone. He did have the advantage of DRS in some previous laps to help him close the gap, but remember that much of the time backmarkers allowed the Ferrari to also use DRS.
Didn't Mark pass him outside of Brooklands after using DRS down the Wellington Straight??
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Old 07-08-2012, 10:33 PM   #22
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Didn't Mark pass him outside of Brooklands after using DRS down the Wellington Straight??
Yes, he did. He got really close to Alonso and used DRS + Alonso's tow to overtake him.
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Old 07-08-2012, 10:34 PM   #23
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Thats my thoughts. There was no epic tension of a battle of years past. Will Webber overtake or can Alonso drive a brilliant defensive last 5 laps
? With DRS you no the answer to both.

I no I am going to be hated and given a bashing for saying that.
Was Alonso managing his tyres for that stint or was that his true pace? It was great magnificent overtake. Alonso gave breathing space and still tried to fight back.

People say how great this year's tyres are yet if you're on the wrong tyre at the wrong moment you're a sitting duck.

Piquet was in a similar situation in 1987 and yet it produced one of the all time great overatakes.
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Old 07-08-2012, 10:38 PM   #24
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Driver: Webbo
Donkey: anyone who expected this race to be exciting. I don't know about you, but I found it rather boring...
I for one have no problem what so ever to be a donkey. The race was pretty much settled until the lat 10 laps. Unless it was deemed dull because Fred didn't win, on contrary, it was one of the more exciting finishes of the season. Fred used up his rubber when he was battling Lewis and Mark took advantage of it. I'd say it's a fair result the end of the day. At least the tires didn't went off as they did in Canada if I recall correctly. Massa did a better job with the softs in a heavier fuel load eg
Hen he needed to overtake Shuey early in the race.
Drivers: Mark, Romain and Massa
Best team: Red Bull for great call on Seb's stops in the first stint
Donkeys:Mclaren, Mercedes, Pastor and Koba
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Old 07-08-2012, 10:40 PM   #25
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What the hell is going on with Rosberg?
Drivers, Webbo, Grosjean.
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Old 07-08-2012, 10:51 PM   #26
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Simples, Webber for driver, Pastor for donkey (again). If it wasn't for the spain win i think there would be calls for his head, given the number of good points scoring finishes he's thrown away now (Oz, Valencia, GB off the top of my head)

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Old 07-08-2012, 10:54 PM   #27
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Drivers: Webber, Alonso, Schumacher.

Honourable mention to Massa who should have no problems retaining a drive if he consistently performs as well as today.

Donkeys: Maldonado, honourable mention to Kobayashi.
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:11 PM   #28
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Drivers: Webber - beat Vettel and can win title if he keeps this up. Wonder how he goes towards end of season tracks though...
Schumacher - 28 sec ahead of Rosberg, > +0.5sec fastest lap. Similar gaps in Malaysia, Valencia and probably Australia. Rosberg only really really beat him in China (maybe Spain?) and yet Rosberg is destroying Michael...?
Grosjean - 7sec behind Raikkonen, 17sec behind winner. Pitted for repairs on lap 1.

Donkeys: Maldonado - not so much for another crash, but his general lack of respect, as said by Perez.
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:13 PM   #29
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I for one have no problem what so ever to be a donkey.
me neither !
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:14 PM   #30
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driver- Webber and Grosjean
donkey- Maldonado- throws it into another car again- Barcelona aside he is useless- another good haul of points down the toilet. Shame Williams need the PDVSA money
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:54 PM   #31
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Driver of the race - Webber

Donkeys: Maldonado, a special mention to Grosjean who once again made contact with other cars. A good drive afterwards but you just cannot go on hitting cars every other race.
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:10 AM   #32
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Driver of the race - Webber

Donkeys: Maldonado, a special mention to Grosjean who once again made contact with other cars. A good drive afterwards but you just cannot go on hitting cars every other race.
To be fair it wasn't really Grosjeans fault in the contact with Di Resta on this occasion. It was the slightest of touches in a crowded corner and there wasn't room for everybody. Romain was on the outside and Paul cut across his front wing and I don't see how he could have avoided it to be honest. Maldonado is a different story and his inability to give respect to fellow drivers needs addressing and soon IMO.
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:17 AM   #33
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Sucks to be Pastor right now , with everyone piling on .

So , all you guys just want him to roll over and let Sergio punk him into giving up the line ?
Pah !

Have a look at the incident again .
Neither driver gave way , and they ended up trying to take up the same space .
It's not as if Sergio didn't know he was there .
And , it should be pretty damned obvious that Sergio knew that Pastor would not give up the place easily , since he's complaining about his reputation here .

He went outside .
He knew the risk .
He knew he was going into a corner with a car beside him .
He knew who was in that car .

How do you say "Cry me a river" in Spanish ?

Maybe Pastor should get some stick over incidents in the past , but not this time .
That was a racing incident .
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:29 AM   #34
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Maybe Pastor should get some stick over incidents in the past , but not this time .
That was a racing incident .
The stewards disagree.
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:30 AM   #35
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How do you say "Cry me a river" in Spanish ?
"llórame un río", but it doesn't make much sense
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:41 AM   #36
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The stewards disagree.
Gee , that's strange .
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:43 AM   #37
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"llórame un río", but it doesn't make much sense
It's all Greek to me .
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:06 AM   #38
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Sucks to be Pastor right now , with everyone piling on .

So , all you guys just want him to roll over and let Sergio punk him into giving up the line ?
Pah !
If it was a driver you disliked, I get the impression you would have said he carried far too much speed into the inside of the corner and caused an unnecessary incident. Its two races in a row now where Pastor has forced another driver into retirement by not being able to concede when he is beaten. The stewards were right to punish him and I think the drivers will be heaping on the pressure in fridays drivers meeting as the respect for his opponents just isn't there at present.
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:46 AM   #39
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Driver: Alonso and Webber tie. Their brief wheel to wheel action never looked like ending in tears.

Donkey: The fuel/tyre/DRS rules.


The rule book gets my donkey vote because, in my opinion, the tyre rules and the fuel rules are killing the racing and DRS is killing the defending.

I was left wondering whether it was the tyre rule that defeated Alonso or if he backed off so that he would have enough fuel to guarantee second place? That just isn't right.
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:49 AM   #40
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If it was a driver you disliked, I get the impression you would have said he carried far too much speed into the inside of the corner and caused an unnecessary incident. Its two races in a row now where Pastor has forced another driver into retirement by not being able to concede when he is beaten. The stewards were right to punish him and I think the drivers will be heaping on the pressure in fridays drivers meeting as the respect for his opponents just isn't there at present.
Sergio knew Pastor was inside for that corner .
And , Pastor knew he knew .

This wasn't a lunge from way back , and they both judged the situation wrongly .

Pastor has admitted he misjudged the grip , first losing the front end , before the curbing , and then the rear , as he corrected .
And Sergio was angry that Pastor hadn't conceded the corner , when he had expected him to have done so .

Ergo , racing incident .

That's my opinion , and I'm dreadfully sorry if you're not impressed by it .
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