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**Apparpsmose** · 11-28-2011, 01:18 AM

Virgin team for releasing Glock with a loose wheel... Could have caused trouble had it bounced into turn one..

**VINPELA** · 11-28-2011, 01:19 AM

Agree. They will get a penalty for that, by which I mean a fine after the race

**DenisMoor** · 11-28-2011, 01:37 AM

Massa:
holding up Hamilton with his slower car as a strategy
being so slow that a back-marker passes him ( and his engineer urging him to drive faster)
and generally being nowhere near his teammate

If I were Ferrari, I would be looking to pick up the odd man out from Force India and send this guy to pasture

...and then doing donuts and nearly hitting the pitwall as if he had accomplished something
LOL

**shemadagaswer** · 11-28-2011, 01:39 AM

Massa:
holding up Hamilton with his slower car as a strategy
being so slow that a back-marker passes him ( and his engineer urging him to drive faster)
and generally being nowhere near his teammate

If I were Ferrari, I would be looking to pick up the odd man out from Force India and send this guy to pasture

Cry me a river!

If you were Ferrari, Ferrari as automotive symbol wouldn't have existed.

**DenisMoor** · 11-28-2011, 01:43 AM

Cry me a river!

If you were Ferrari, Ferrari as automotive symbol wouldn't have existed.

uhm, what are you going on about
it's the end of the season and you seem to have run out of useless puns I suppose :/

**VINPELA** · 11-28-2011, 01:43 AM

Can't agree because of Massa holding up Lewis???

Isn't that what he needed to do do make his 2 stopper work?

**DenisMoor** · 11-28-2011, 01:52 AM

Can't agree because of Massa holding up Lewis???

Isn't that what he needed to do do make his 2 stopper work?

that's one part of my argument, but I did not see him holding up Button, and at that point both button and Hamilton were separated by about 1.6 seconds and catching Massa at an alarming speed.
Button went through, and then they decided to hold up Hamilton. both mclaren drivers were on pretty much the same 3 stop strategy and both were vastly quicker. So I suppose that strategy was "reserved" for hamilton
Actually I really did not care until I heard the radio broadcast from his caretaker engineer.

**Apparpsmose** · 11-28-2011, 01:54 AM

Strange to see Felipe just pull out of the way when Jenson appeared in his mirrors only for him to fight Lewis for the same position. Not sure I'd give Felipe the donkey award though.

**kKFB1BxX** · 11-28-2011, 01:58 AM

The weather forecaster!

Other than that, the Virgin team will get a penalty.

The rest were racing incidents.

**DenisMoor** · 11-28-2011, 02:03 AM

The weather forecaster!

LOL, yes, I forgot about that
they were completely off, I mean way off

**SkHukV3N** · 11-28-2011, 02:34 AM

Stewards for giving Senna the penalty.

**Apparpsmose** · 11-28-2011, 02:39 AM

Stewards for giving Senna the penalty.

Indeed, it really wasn't needed for what was a pure racing incident IMO. This is what we have to come to expect from now on unfortunately.

**aAaBecker** · 11-28-2011, 02:39 AM

Harsh to give it to either Senna or Schumacher for tangling, it was a racing incident and a shame that the former got a penalty and the latter got a puncture.

Maybe Massa for generally being dog slow again and letting his buddy past when he'd been told to push, but that too seems harsh.

So I'll give it to Red Bull for thinking we'd believe Seb had "gearbox problems" when he was trading fastest laps with Mark

**shemadagaswer** · 11-28-2011, 03:15 AM

Can't agree because of Massa holding up Lewis???

Isn't that what he needed to do do make his 2 stopper work?

truefan is all for racing as long as it goes Lewis' way, otherwise all other are donkeys. LOL

**limpoporanique** · 11-28-2011, 03:29 AM

Harsh to give it to either Senna or Schumacher for tangling, it was a racing incident and a shame that the former got a penalty and the latter got a puncture.

Maybe Massa for generally being dog slow again and letting his buddy past when he'd been told to push, but that too seems harsh.

So I'll give it to Red Bull for thinking we'd believe Seb had "gearbox problems" when he was trading fastest laps with Mark

Seb had "hearbox" problems. They said it to him in both ears, so it must be true. Of course. And so having heard, he drove as having heard.

As for Senna, if it had been for the first contact, I agree, but look at how he drove afterwards into the second contact. For that he should have gotten the penalty. Indeed a ten second stop and go might have been more appropriate. But at least he was fighting tooth and nail.

**Apparpsmose** · 11-28-2011, 04:01 AM

truefan is all for racing as long as it goes Lewis' way, otherwise all other are donkeys. LOL

You could replace the word 'Truefan' with 'ioan' and 'Lewis' with 'Michael' and the irony would be lost on some.

**shemadagaswer** · 11-28-2011, 08:12 AM

You could replace the word 'Truefan' with 'ioan' and 'Lewis' with 'Michael' and the irony would be lost on some.

You talking about Monza where the best things since, well you know, couldn't overtake a much older driver driving a slower car until the FIA made way for him?! I guess it's a yes?

**RotsLoado** · 11-28-2011, 11:59 AM

I would also like to add DRS, of which ruined an engaging battle between Massa and I believe Button as soon as they came out of the first S-bend.

**leijggigf** · 11-28-2011, 12:15 PM

Seb gets the award from me for comparing himself to Senna! Can't believe he actually said that. What a donkey...

**Apparpsmose** · 11-28-2011, 05:47 PM

You talking about Monza where the best things since, well you know, couldn't overtake a much older driver driving a slower car until the FIA made way for him?! I guess it's a yes?

No I wasn't talking about Monza. I was talking about you excusing others of doing something you are verty guilty of yourself. Monza didn't even enter my head to be quite honest and I can't see how you made the connection? Did I even hint at a particular instance? lol

11-28-2011, 01:18 AM	#1
Apparpsmose Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 524 Senior Member	Brazil GP: Donkey of the race Virgin team for releasing Glock with a loose wheel... Could have caused trouble had it bounced into turn one.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-28-2011, 01:19 AM	#2
VINPELA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 425 Senior Member	Agree. They will get a penalty for that, by which I mean a fine after the race Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-28-2011, 01:37 AM	#3
DenisMoor Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 640 Senior Member	Massa: holding up Hamilton with his slower car as a strategy being so slow that a back-marker passes him ( and his engineer urging him to drive faster) and generally being nowhere near his teammate If I were Ferrari, I would be looking to pick up the odd man out from Force India and send this guy to pasture ...and then doing donuts and nearly hitting the pitwall as if he had accomplished something LOL Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-28-2011, 01:39 AM	#4
shemadagaswer Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 464 Senior Member	Massa: holding up Hamilton with his slower car as a strategy being so slow that a back-marker passes him ( and his engineer urging him to drive faster) and generally being nowhere near his teammate If I were Ferrari, I would be looking to pick up the odd man out from Force India and send this guy to pasture Cry me a river! If you were Ferrari, Ferrari as automotive symbol wouldn't have existed. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-28-2011, 01:43 AM	#5
DenisMoor Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 640 Senior Member	Cry me a river! If you were Ferrari, Ferrari as automotive symbol wouldn't have existed. uhm, what are you going on about it's the end of the season and you seem to have run out of useless puns I suppose :/ Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-28-2011, 01:52 AM	#7
DenisMoor Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 640 Senior Member	Can't agree because of Massa holding up Lewis??? Isn't that what he needed to do do make his 2 stopper work? that's one part of my argument, but I did not see him holding up Button, and at that point both button and Hamilton were separated by about 1.6 seconds and catching Massa at an alarming speed. Button went through, and then they decided to hold up Hamilton. both mclaren drivers were on pretty much the same 3 stop strategy and both were vastly quicker. So I suppose that strategy was "reserved" for hamilton Actually I really did not care until I heard the radio broadcast from his caretaker engineer. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-28-2011, 01:54 AM	#8
Apparpsmose Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 524 Senior Member	Strange to see Felipe just pull out of the way when Jenson appeared in his mirrors only for him to fight Lewis for the same position. Not sure I'd give Felipe the donkey award though. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-28-2011, 01:58 AM	#9
kKFB1BxX Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 510 Senior Member	The weather forecaster! Other than that, the Virgin team will get a penalty. The rest were racing incidents. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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DenisMoor Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 640 Senior Member	The weather forecaster! LOL, yes, I forgot about that they were completely off, I mean way off Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-28-2011, 02:34 AM	#11
SkHukV3N Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 455 Senior Member	Stewards for giving Senna the penalty. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-28-2011, 02:39 AM	#12
Apparpsmose Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 524 Senior Member	Stewards for giving Senna the penalty. Indeed, it really wasn't needed for what was a pure racing incident IMO. This is what we have to come to expect from now on unfortunately. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-28-2011, 02:39 AM	#13
aAaBecker Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 509 Senior Member	Harsh to give it to either Senna or Schumacher for tangling, it was a racing incident and a shame that the former got a penalty and the latter got a puncture. Maybe Massa for generally being dog slow again and letting his buddy past when he'd been told to push, but that too seems harsh. So I'll give it to Red Bull for thinking we'd believe Seb had "gearbox problems" when he was trading fastest laps with Mark Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-28-2011, 03:15 AM	#14
shemadagaswer Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 464 Senior Member	Can't agree because of Massa holding up Lewis??? Isn't that what he needed to do do make his 2 stopper work? truefan is all for racing as long as it goes Lewis' way, otherwise all other are donkeys. LOL Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-28-2011, 03:29 AM	#15
limpoporanique Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 483 Senior Member	Harsh to give it to either Senna or Schumacher for tangling, it was a racing incident and a shame that the former got a penalty and the latter got a puncture. Maybe Massa for generally being dog slow again and letting his buddy past when he'd been told to push, but that too seems harsh. So I'll give it to Red Bull for thinking we'd believe Seb had "gearbox problems" when he was trading fastest laps with Mark Seb had "hearbox" problems. They said it to him in both ears, so it must be true. Of course. And so having heard, he drove as having heard. As for Senna, if it had been for the first contact, I agree, but look at how he drove afterwards into the second contact. For that he should have gotten the penalty. Indeed a ten second stop and go might have been more appropriate. But at least he was fighting tooth and nail. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-28-2011, 04:01 AM	#16
Apparpsmose Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 524 Senior Member	truefan is all for racing as long as it goes Lewis' way, otherwise all other are donkeys. LOL You could replace the word 'Truefan' with 'ioan' and 'Lewis' with 'Michael' and the irony would be lost on some. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-28-2011, 08:12 AM	#17
shemadagaswer Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 464 Senior Member	You could replace the word 'Truefan' with 'ioan' and 'Lewis' with 'Michael' and the irony would be lost on some. You talking about Monza where the best things since, well you know, couldn't overtake a much older driver driving a slower car until the FIA made way for him?! I guess it's a yes? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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RotsLoado Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 634 Senior Member	I would also like to add DRS, of which ruined an engaging battle between Massa and I believe Button as soon as they came out of the first S-bend. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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leijggigf Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 398 Senior Member	Seb gets the award from me for comparing himself to Senna! Can't believe he actually said that. What a donkey... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-28-2011, 05:47 PM	#20
Apparpsmose Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 524 Senior Member	You talking about Monza where the best things since, well you know, couldn't overtake a much older driver driving a slower car until the FIA made way for him?! I guess it's a yes? No I wasn't talking about Monza. I was talking about you excusing others of doing something you are verty guilty of yourself. Monza didn't even enter my head to be quite honest and I can't see how you made the connection? Did I even hint at a particular instance? lol Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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