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**hopertveyk** · 11-13-2011, 11:40 PM

Donkey of the race today: Maldonado for getting in everybody's way and picking up a drive through for his troubles - plus he's being investigated (along with Alguersuari) after the race for another block.

Honourable mention for Donkey goes to Massa, he's getting totally destroyed by Alonso and his spin put pay to any chance of fighting with Webber.

**imawlBoli** · 11-13-2011, 11:52 PM

Close between Maldanado (for the worst ignoring of cllue fas I've seen in a while) and Massa for being trashed by Alonso and spinning when finally trying to do some decent times in order to stave off Webber.

**ionitiesk** · 11-14-2011, 12:11 AM

That Pirelli rear tyre, which was fitted on Vettel's car. Both fresh world champions with the name of Seb had a very weird retirement today.

**Hervams** · 11-14-2011, 01:05 AM

Maldonado for getting investigated twice in one race for ignoring blue flags.

**StampNews** · 11-14-2011, 01:20 AM

Maldonado by a country mile.

I don't think Massa would have been able to finish in front of better even without his spin. Even though Alonso has outperformed him during the whole season, Massa made a single mistake in a tricky turn where both Ferrari drivers have had problems during the weekend. So I'm not even giving him an (dis)honorable mention.

**FetMiddle** · 11-14-2011, 03:17 AM

MAldonado for me. He was a wreck. Do we see two driver changes at Williams for 2012?

**ionitiesk** · 11-14-2011, 03:48 AM

MAldonado for me. He was a wreck. Do we see two driver changes at Williams for 2012?

I think the pace of Maldonado is good and IMO he is worthy of another year regardless of the sponsorship support. He has outraced Barrichello for much of the second half of 2011. The manners have been a bit of a problem though and have earned him some penalties before too (Belgium, Korea). Perhaps he will learn.

**uMG6uOSo** · 11-14-2011, 04:15 AM

Maldonado...

**kKFB1BxX** · 11-14-2011, 04:33 PM

Two penalties in the same race for the same thing is pretty damn ordinary.

**italertb** · 11-14-2011, 04:33 PM

Maldonado. Personally I feel a race ban is in order for being so stupid. It was complete and total ****wittery and nothing more.

Massa also for spinning and proving once again that he is an average driver at best.

**forebirdo** · 11-14-2011, 04:36 PM

The whole race was the donkey. I wouldn't give it to Massa, in fact a half a decent job from a number two driver that gets the leftovers of the team.

**StitlyDute** · 11-14-2011, 04:42 PM

Maldonkado

**italertb** · 11-14-2011, 05:17 PM

Hilariously, Massa blames his spin on medium tyres and an old friend wing. Nothing to do with the fact that he's just ****e of course.

**huerta** · 11-14-2011, 05:49 PM

Hilariously, Massa blames his spin on medium tyres and an old friend wing. Nothing to do with the fact that he's just ****e of course.

I think he ran out of talent mid-corner.......

Back to the Massa of old methinks - oh dear. Ferrari have successfully fubar'd their own driver!

**byncnombmub** · 11-14-2011, 06:55 PM

Obviously Maldonado for pathetic driving. I agree with TBK that a race ban is deserved.

As for Massa, what more can be said? Alonso proved that the car is competitive but Massa makes it look a POS. Lacklustre qualifying, poor race pace and a spin to boot. However, I'm not going to give him a Donkey award because this was one of his better performances of the year.

Imagine Webber and Massa in the Ferrari. We would really be slating the team for providing an awful car but actually it a pretty good car. Put a decent driver in the seat and Ferrari would be 2nd in the championship.

**ionitiesk** · 11-14-2011, 07:44 PM

Imagine Webber and Massa in the Ferrari. We would really be slating the team for providing an awful car but actually it a pretty good car.

Or imagine Webber and Massa were in the Red Bull.

We would be saying modern F1 is so competitive that no-one is able to design a car that can dominate the championship...

I have to say that if Massa is considered as a donkey of the race, then Webber isn't far from it either. He was nowhere all race in a car that was supposed to win in Vettel's hands.

**byncnombmub** · 11-15-2011, 01:07 AM

Yep. I like Webber but you must say he has been woeful this year.

**Biassasecumma** · 11-15-2011, 03:02 AM

Button for being trashed like that by Hamilton. Looks like Alonso's pre-race comments got into his head.

**Hervams** · 11-15-2011, 03:29 AM

Button for being trashed like that by Hamilton. Looks like Alonso's pre-race comments got into his head.

Button was off the pace all weekend by his own admission, but when you read the autosport article about what he had to put up with during the race with loss of KERS, brake bias needing to be changed constantly and him not knowing how the car would react from corner to corner, then I'm sure you'd probably put him as one of the drivers of the race. If I were Jenson I'd be nothing but proud after yesterday's performance.

"Early in the race he had a KERS failure and he spent about 20 laps without it, so for the rest of the race we were trying to reset it to get it going. But then it would fail again.

"During all that time, and these were times when he was trying to keep rhythm, trying to keep pace, trying to defend position, trying to get through traffic - his brake balance was swinging wildly with the failure of KERS or not.
McLaren amazed by KERS-less Jenson Button's Abu Dhabi drive - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

Cheers Knockie for the article..

**imawlBoli** · 11-15-2011, 04:56 AM

Henners, you should know better than to let the truth get in the way of a good trolling

11-13-2011, 11:40 PM	#1
hopertveyk Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 406 Senior Member	Abu Donkey Doo! Donkey of the race today: Maldonado for getting in everybody's way and picking up a drive through for his troubles - plus he's being investigated (along with Alguersuari) after the race for another block. Honourable mention for Donkey goes to Massa, he's getting totally destroyed by Alonso and his spin put pay to any chance of fighting with Webber. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-13-2011, 11:52 PM	#2
imawlBoli Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 528 Senior Member	Close between Maldanado (for the worst ignoring of cllue fas I've seen in a while) and Massa for being trashed by Alonso and spinning when finally trying to do some decent times in order to stave off Webber. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-14-2011, 12:11 AM	#3
ionitiesk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 438 Senior Member	That Pirelli rear tyre, which was fitted on Vettel's car. Both fresh world champions with the name of Seb had a very weird retirement today. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-14-2011, 01:05 AM	#4
Hervams Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 511 Senior Member	Maldonado for getting investigated twice in one race for ignoring blue flags. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-14-2011, 01:20 AM	#5
StampNews Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 458 Senior Member	Maldonado by a country mile. I don't think Massa would have been able to finish in front of better even without his spin. Even though Alonso has outperformed him during the whole season, Massa made a single mistake in a tricky turn where both Ferrari drivers have had problems during the weekend. So I'm not even giving him an (dis)honorable mention. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-14-2011, 03:17 AM	#6
FetMiddle Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 441 Senior Member	MAldonado for me. He was a wreck. Do we see two driver changes at Williams for 2012? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-14-2011, 03:48 AM	#7
ionitiesk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 438 Senior Member	MAldonado for me. He was a wreck. Do we see two driver changes at Williams for 2012? I think the pace of Maldonado is good and IMO he is worthy of another year regardless of the sponsorship support. He has outraced Barrichello for much of the second half of 2011. The manners have been a bit of a problem though and have earned him some penalties before too (Belgium, Korea). Perhaps he will learn. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-14-2011, 04:15 AM	#8
uMG6uOSo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 450 Senior Member	Maldonado... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-14-2011, 04:33 PM	#9
kKFB1BxX Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 510 Senior Member	Two penalties in the same race for the same thing is pretty damn ordinary. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-14-2011, 04:33 PM	#10
italertb Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 419 Senior Member	Maldonado. Personally I feel a race ban is in order for being so stupid. It was complete and total ****wittery and nothing more. Massa also for spinning and proving once again that he is an average driver at best. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-14-2011, 04:36 PM	#11
forebirdo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 584 Senior Member	The whole race was the donkey. I wouldn't give it to Massa, in fact a half a decent job from a number two driver that gets the leftovers of the team. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-14-2011, 04:42 PM	#12
StitlyDute Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 485 Senior Member	Maldonkado Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-14-2011, 05:17 PM	#13
italertb Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 419 Senior Member	Hilariously, Massa blames his spin on medium tyres and an old friend wing. Nothing to do with the fact that he's just ****e of course. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-14-2011, 05:49 PM	#14
huerta Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 579 Senior Member	Hilariously, Massa blames his spin on medium tyres and an old friend wing. Nothing to do with the fact that he's just ****e of course. I think he ran out of talent mid-corner....... Back to the Massa of old methinks - oh dear. Ferrari have successfully fubar'd their own driver! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-14-2011, 06:55 PM	#15
byncnombmub Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 489 Senior Member	Obviously Maldonado for pathetic driving. I agree with TBK that a race ban is deserved. As for Massa, what more can be said? Alonso proved that the car is competitive but Massa makes it look a POS. Lacklustre qualifying, poor race pace and a spin to boot. However, I'm not going to give him a Donkey award because this was one of his better performances of the year. Imagine Webber and Massa in the Ferrari. We would really be slating the team for providing an awful car but actually it a pretty good car. Put a decent driver in the seat and Ferrari would be 2nd in the championship. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-14-2011, 07:44 PM	#16
ionitiesk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 438 Senior Member	Imagine Webber and Massa in the Ferrari. We would really be slating the team for providing an awful car but actually it a pretty good car. Or imagine Webber and Massa were in the Red Bull. We would be saying modern F1 is so competitive that no-one is able to design a car that can dominate the championship... I have to say that if Massa is considered as a donkey of the race, then Webber isn't far from it either. He was nowhere all race in a car that was supposed to win in Vettel's hands. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-15-2011, 01:07 AM	#17
byncnombmub Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 489 Senior Member	Yep. I like Webber but you must say he has been woeful this year. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-15-2011, 03:02 AM	#18
Biassasecumma Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 740 Senior Member	Button for being trashed like that by Hamilton. Looks like Alonso's pre-race comments got into his head. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-15-2011, 03:29 AM	#19
Hervams Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 511 Senior Member	Button for being trashed like that by Hamilton. Looks like Alonso's pre-race comments got into his head. Button was off the pace all weekend by his own admission, but when you read the autosport article about what he had to put up with during the race with loss of KERS, brake bias needing to be changed constantly and him not knowing how the car would react from corner to corner, then I'm sure you'd probably put him as one of the drivers of the race. If I were Jenson I'd be nothing but proud after yesterday's performance. "Early in the race he had a KERS failure and he spent about 20 laps without it, so for the rest of the race we were trying to reset it to get it going. But then it would fail again. "During all that time, and these were times when he was trying to keep rhythm, trying to keep pace, trying to defend position, trying to get through traffic - his brake balance was swinging wildly with the failure of KERS or not. McLaren amazed by KERS-less Jenson Button's Abu Dhabi drive - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com Cheers Knockie for the article.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-15-2011, 04:56 AM	#20
imawlBoli Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 528 Senior Member	Henners, you should know better than to let the truth get in the way of a good trolling Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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