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**MineOffedOvex** · 08-01-2010, 09:46 PM

For trying to run former team mate Rubens into the wall

**bestonline** · 08-01-2010, 09:52 PM

So he should be, that was as dangerous driving as I've ever seen in F1. I'm all for a bit of hard racing, but he crossed a line by pushing Rubens so close to the pitwall.

No point penalising him today, he was out of the points anyway, but hopefully a grid penalty when we eventually get to Spa.

**GroosteFoessy** · 08-01-2010, 10:00 PM

once a cheat always a cheat i`m glad he came back to mercedes where he has a decent teammate that is beating him up like a redheaded stepson where he doesnt get special treatment and the myth of the winningest drivers is being dissipated race by race.

**bestonline** · 08-01-2010, 10:03 PM

He's just told the BBC that he went so far to the right to make it obvious to Rubens that he was leaving a gap to the left

**Andromino** · 08-01-2010, 10:04 PM

Cheatmacher completely unapologetic too.

**viagsjicguara** · 08-01-2010, 10:07 PM

A bit too close there.

**VonErmad4** · 08-01-2010, 10:07 PM

Maybe a race ban is what is needed this time.
It would also give Heidfeld a chance to shine, hopefully.

**eCw56dzY** · 08-01-2010, 10:13 PM

Maybe a race ban is what is needed this time.
It would also give Heidfeld a chance to shine, hopefully.

He's always been this hard on the track, but now no one is scared of him anymore. I have to say its time for him to go - he's a danger to himself and everyone else.

**blodwarttufla** · 08-01-2010, 10:18 PM

I agree with all here, it was a terrible move.

If once he had exited the last corner he had defended on that line, then fine but to turn so late once Rubens had started the move.

I don't think a Grid Penalty is enough, I think like ioan and Sonic he should recieve a race ban and Heidfeld will show some form, that Michael hasn't got this year.

**clubcughSheet** · 08-01-2010, 10:20 PM

I am a fan of hard racing but this defensive move by Michael Schumacher went well beyond that. The only reason Rubens Barrichello did not end up in the wall was because it ended allowing him to a little more right into the pitlane exit (I don't want to imagine if someone had been exiting the pits at the time) and avoid a collision that Schumacher almost seemed intent on causing. Rubens still had to take partially to the grass. Bad move by Schumacher.

**bestonline** · 08-01-2010, 10:22 PM

He's just told Italian TV "I think I left him too much room because he passed" (my italics).

Seriously.

**Arkadiyas** · 08-01-2010, 10:28 PM

So he made an error and knew Rubens was coming. He moved one way to indicate to Rubens to go the other, and yet he kept moving across

That was seriously close to the wall.

I don't think a time or grid penalty is enough. The FIA stewards need to clearly indicate this kind of driving is not acceptable. Whether it's Schumacher doing it or anyone else.

**blodwarttufla** · 08-01-2010, 10:29 PM

He's just told Italian TV "I think I left him too much room because he passed" (my italics).

Seriously.

He said same on Beeb.

I obviously left him plenty of room, as he passed no problem.

**lymnCymment** · 08-01-2010, 10:29 PM

Well, he did ask for it.

Who was in the wrong, Rubens or Michael?

Poll Please!!!

**snova** · 08-01-2010, 10:30 PM

He's just told Italian TV "I think I left him too much room because he passed" (my italics).

Seriously.

Yah, Mike still Master Chopper, and not even Webber can out chop him....

but actually, I think he thought he had blocked him and RB would go to the left, but he went for the gap to the right....when MS saw it, finally, he immediately gave him room and let him have the corner....he could have kept him boxed in...

so while it looked crazy, I am not so sure it was intended to be as mean as it appears, and no worse than Kubica's move into the pits by slashing across the nose in Canada

BTW, it appears that rubens gained an advantage by going off the racing surface???maybe he should be required to give it back??????

**blodwarttufla** · 08-01-2010, 10:30 PM

Surley no need for a Poll.

Rubens brilliant.

Schumacher a disgrace.

**Andromino** · 08-01-2010, 10:31 PM

Good on Rubens

Schumacher completely in the wrong!

**snova** · 08-01-2010, 10:32 PM

look again....
poll needs to have a neither

**Andromino** · 08-01-2010, 10:32 PM

Surley no need for a Poll.

Rubens said on the BBC that the fans should vote on who was at fault

**Arkadiyas** · 08-01-2010, 10:32 PM

If anyone doesn't think this kind of move can be dangerous take a look at the accident that happened to Chris Van Der Drift in the Superleague race today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je71qzTdzx0

08-01-2010, 09:46 PM	#1
MineOffedOvex Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 446 Senior Member	SchM is under investigation For trying to run former team mate Rubens into the wall Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-01-2010, 09:52 PM	#2
bestonline Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 476 Senior Member	So he should be, that was as dangerous driving as I've ever seen in F1. I'm all for a bit of hard racing, but he crossed a line by pushing Rubens so close to the pitwall. No point penalising him today, he was out of the points anyway, but hopefully a grid penalty when we eventually get to Spa. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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GroosteFoessy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 540 Senior Member	once a cheat always a cheat i`m glad he came back to mercedes where he has a decent teammate that is beating him up like a redheaded stepson where he doesnt get special treatment and the myth of the winningest drivers is being dissipated race by race. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-01-2010, 10:03 PM	#4
bestonline Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 476 Senior Member	He's just told the BBC that he went so far to the right to make it obvious to Rubens that he was leaving a gap to the left Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Andromino Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 540 Senior Member	Cheatmacher completely unapologetic too. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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viagsjicguara Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 458 Senior Member	A bit too close there. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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VonErmad4 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 543 Senior Member	Maybe a race ban is what is needed this time. It would also give Heidfeld a chance to shine, hopefully. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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eCw56dzY Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 400 Senior Member	Maybe a race ban is what is needed this time. It would also give Heidfeld a chance to shine, hopefully. He's always been this hard on the track, but now no one is scared of him anymore. I have to say its time for him to go - he's a danger to himself and everyone else. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-01-2010, 10:18 PM	#9
blodwarttufla Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 430 Senior Member	I agree with all here, it was a terrible move. If once he had exited the last corner he had defended on that line, then fine but to turn so late once Rubens had started the move. I don't think a Grid Penalty is enough, I think like ioan and Sonic he should recieve a race ban and Heidfeld will show some form, that Michael hasn't got this year. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-01-2010, 10:20 PM	#10
clubcughSheet Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 490 Senior Member	I am a fan of hard racing but this defensive move by Michael Schumacher went well beyond that. The only reason Rubens Barrichello did not end up in the wall was because it ended allowing him to a little more right into the pitlane exit (I don't want to imagine if someone had been exiting the pits at the time) and avoid a collision that Schumacher almost seemed intent on causing. Rubens still had to take partially to the grass. Bad move by Schumacher. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-01-2010, 10:22 PM	#11
bestonline Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 476 Senior Member	He's just told Italian TV "I think I left him too much room because he passed" (my italics). Seriously. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-01-2010, 10:28 PM	#12
Arkadiyas Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 692 Senior Member	So he made an error and knew Rubens was coming. He moved one way to indicate to Rubens to go the other, and yet he kept moving across That was *seriously* close to the wall. I don't think a time or grid penalty is enough. The FIA stewards need to clearly indicate this kind of driving is not acceptable. Whether it's Schumacher doing it or anyone else. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-01-2010, 10:29 PM	#13
blodwarttufla Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 430 Senior Member	He's just told Italian TV "I think I left him too much room because he passed" (my italics). Seriously. He said same on Beeb. I obviously left him plenty of room, as he passed no problem. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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lymnCymment Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 395 Senior Member	Well, he did ask for it. Who was in the wrong, Rubens or Michael? Poll Please!!! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-01-2010, 10:30 PM	#15
snova Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 432 Senior Member	He's just told Italian TV "I think I left him too much room because he passed" (my italics). Seriously. Yah, Mike still Master Chopper, and not even Webber can out chop him.... but actually, I think he thought he had blocked him and RB would go to the left, but he went for the gap to the right....when MS saw it, finally, he immediately gave him room and let him have the corner....he could have kept him boxed in... so while it looked crazy, I am not so sure it was intended to be as mean as it appears, and no worse than Kubica's move into the pits by slashing across the nose in Canada BTW, it appears that rubens gained an advantage by going off the racing surface???maybe he should be required to give it back?????? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Andromino Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 540 Senior Member	Good on Rubens Schumacher completely in the wrong! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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snova Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 432 Senior Member	look again.... poll needs to have a neither Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Andromino Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 540 Senior Member	Surley no need for a Poll. Rubens said on the BBC that the fans should vote on who was at fault Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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