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**orison** · 04-06-2010, 02:56 PM

When a driver won the WDC/team winning the WCC without actually winning a race?

**leacturavar** · 04-06-2010, 03:00 PM

Nope.

Hawthorn in 1958 and Rosberg in 1982 both had 1-win championships, and that is the lowest to date.

Not sure what the lowest number of wins that secured a WCC is though.

**cristmiff** · 04-06-2010, 03:41 PM

ferrari won just 3 races in 1982 and won the constructors championship.

I doubt there is one with less than that.

edit: ferrari did the same in 1964 as well!

**scoussysows** · 04-07-2010, 01:46 AM

Rosberg's '82 season arguably comes closest because the race he won was the Swiss Grand Prix - in France! So technically he won the World Championship by winning a Grand Prix from a country where the sport had been banned for 27 years...

**Seerseraxlils** · 04-07-2010, 08:53 AM

Rosberg's '82 season arguably comes closest because the race he won was the Swiss Grand Prix - in France! So technically he won the World Championship by winning a Grand Prix from a country where the sport had been banned for 27 years...

Thats true but it was an inspired idea because Switzerland is only a few miles away and close to Zurich.

**standaman** · 04-07-2010, 09:06 AM

Thats true but it was an inspired idea because Switzerland is only a few miles away and close to Zurich.

Really? And me thinking that Zurich is in Switzerland!

**Seerseraxlils** · 04-07-2010, 09:20 AM

Really? And me thinking that Zurich is in Switzerland!

That is good thinking, congratulations, because it is also close to the Dijon-Prenois circuit - a few miles.

**replicamuse** · 04-07-2010, 04:14 PM

Really? And me thinking that Zurich is in Switzerland!

As I'm going there in June. I can confirm it is indeed in Switzerland

**Innockcroff** · 04-07-2010, 04:43 PM

Really? And me thinking that Zurich is in Switzerland!

I think St.D meant the circuit was fairly close to the Swiss border to be considered near.

**replicamuse** · 04-07-2010, 05:09 PM

Well for years we had a supposed race at San Marino too...

At least the Monaco Grand Prix is actually in Monaco!

**Seerseraxlils** · 04-08-2010, 09:50 AM

Personally I would be disappointed if Jenson won a championship with one win only.

As a fan I would rather watch "my" driver win half a dozen races and NOT win the championship given these choices.

The championship is somewhat esoteric compared to races - albeit a charming incidental accrual :-]

**orison** · 04-08-2010, 10:30 AM

I'd love to see a season where we have a lot of race winners and the WDC didn't win a single race, but still takes it home!

Go Massa!

**zCLadw3R** · 04-09-2010, 02:54 AM

And Rosberg's WDC had a couple of extenuating circumstances, with both Ferrari drivers who started the season failing to finish the season.

**Seerseraxlils** · 04-09-2010, 11:18 AM

I'd love to see a season where we have a lot of race winners and the WDC didn't win a single race, but still takes it home!

Go Massa!

I think Bernie would then have to be placed on suicide watch!!

It would also be extremely embarassing for the driver as the press would taunt him.

Could any driver even WANT that. I do not think so.

**mloversia** · 04-09-2010, 02:41 PM

It would also be extremely embarassing for the driver as the press would taunt him.

Who would feel embarrassed about winning a World Drivers Championship?

**replicamuse** · 04-09-2010, 04:26 PM

Could any driver even WANT that. I do not think so.

They would have rather won races, of course. But would they take it, of course. Most drivers would kill their own gran for a WDC, wins or no wins.

History records that you were champion, how you got it is not important.

**Mambattedge** · 04-10-2010, 09:41 PM

I'd love to see a season where we have a lot of race winners and the WDC didn't win a single race, but still takes it home!

If that ever happened it would happen to Nick Heidfeld...

So not this year then....

Unless a certain German's neck takes a turn for the worse imminently....

**Seerseraxlils** · 04-11-2010, 11:15 AM

........ Most drivers would kill their own gran for a WDC, wins or no wins.

History records that you were champion, how you got it is not important.

I disagree with you on both counts above. Further - the ends justify the means? Never. It never can and never will - that is the core description of evil.

**Seerseraxlils** · 04-11-2010, 11:22 AM

If that ever happened it would happen to Nick Heidfeld...

So not this year then....

Unless a certain German's neck takes a turn for the worse imminently....

You imply Schumi will quit? Why would he quit?

It is a credit to who he is that too many people consider him a superman. We know that there is no such concept, yet such expectation is irrational and demonstrates a total lack of understanding what happened from 1995 until 2006.

Unless there is a valid reason, Heidfeld is not likely to not drive an F1 car in a grand prix.

04-06-2010, 02:56 PM	#1
orison Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 455 Senior Member	Was there ever a season... When a driver won the WDC/team winning the WCC without actually winning a race? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-06-2010, 03:00 PM	#2
leacturavar Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 488 Senior Member	Nope. Hawthorn in 1958 and Rosberg in 1982 both had 1-win championships, and that is the lowest to date. Not sure what the lowest number of wins that secured a WCC is though. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-06-2010, 03:41 PM	#3
cristmiff Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 561 Senior Member	ferrari won just 3 races in 1982 and won the constructors championship. I doubt there is one with less than that. edit: ferrari did the same in 1964 as well! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-07-2010, 01:46 AM	#4
scoussysows Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 441 Senior Member	Rosberg's '82 season arguably comes closest because the race he won was the Swiss Grand Prix - in France! So technically he won the World Championship by winning a Grand Prix from a country where the sport had been banned for 27 years... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-07-2010, 08:53 AM	#5
Seerseraxlils Join Date Jan 2006 Posts 562 Senior Member	Rosberg's '82 season arguably comes closest because the race he won was the Swiss Grand Prix - in France! So technically he won the World Championship by winning a Grand Prix from a country where the sport had been banned for 27 years... Thats true but it was an inspired idea because Switzerland is only a few miles away and close to Zurich. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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standaman Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 870 Senior Member	Thats true but it was an inspired idea because Switzerland is only a few miles away and close to Zurich. Really? And me thinking that Zurich is in Switzerland! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Seerseraxlils Join Date Jan 2006 Posts 562 Senior Member	Really? And me thinking that Zurich is in Switzerland! That is good thinking, congratulations, because it is also close to the Dijon-Prenois circuit - a few miles. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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replicamuse Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 476 Senior Member	Really? And me thinking that Zurich is in Switzerland! As I'm going there in June. I can confirm it is indeed in Switzerland Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Innockcroff Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 445 Senior Member	Really? And me thinking that Zurich is in Switzerland! I think St.D meant the circuit was fairly close to the Swiss border to be considered near. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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replicamuse Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 476 Senior Member	Well for years we had a supposed race at San Marino too... At least the Monaco Grand Prix is actually in Monaco! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-08-2010, 09:50 AM	#11
Seerseraxlils Join Date Jan 2006 Posts 562 Senior Member	Personally I would be disappointed if Jenson won a championship with one win only. As a fan I would rather watch "my" driver win half a dozen races and NOT win the championship given these choices. The championship is somewhat esoteric compared to races - albeit a charming incidental accrual :-] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-08-2010, 10:30 AM	#12
orison Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 455 Senior Member	I'd love to see a season where we have a lot of race winners and the WDC didn't win a single race, but still takes it home! Go Massa! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-09-2010, 02:54 AM	#13
zCLadw3R Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 553 Senior Member	And Rosberg's WDC had a couple of extenuating circumstances, with both Ferrari drivers who started the season failing to finish the season. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-09-2010, 11:18 AM	#14
Seerseraxlils Join Date Jan 2006 Posts 562 Senior Member	I'd love to see a season where we have a lot of race winners and the WDC didn't win a single race, but still takes it home! Go Massa! I think Bernie would then have to be placed on suicide watch!! It would also be extremely embarassing for the driver as the press would taunt him. Could any driver even WANT that. I do not think so. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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mloversia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 531 Senior Member	It would also be extremely embarassing for the driver as the press would taunt him. Who would feel embarrassed about winning a World Drivers Championship? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-09-2010, 04:26 PM	#16
replicamuse Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 476 Senior Member	Could any driver even WANT that. I do not think so. They would have rather won races, of course. But would they take it, of course. Most drivers would kill their own gran for a WDC, wins or no wins. History records that you were champion, how you got it is not important. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Mambattedge Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 460 Senior Member	I'd love to see a season where we have a lot of race winners and the WDC didn't win a single race, but still takes it home! If that ever happened it would happen to Nick Heidfeld... So not this year then.... Unless a certain German's neck takes a turn for the worse imminently.... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-11-2010, 11:15 AM	#18
Seerseraxlils Join Date Jan 2006 Posts 562 Senior Member	........ Most drivers would kill their own gran for a WDC, wins or no wins. History records that you were champion, how you got it is not important. I disagree with you on both counts above. Further - the ends justify the means? Never. It never can and never will - that is the core description of evil. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-11-2010, 11:22 AM	#19
Seerseraxlils Join Date Jan 2006 Posts 562 Senior Member	If that ever happened it would happen to Nick Heidfeld... So not this year then.... Unless a certain German's neck takes a turn for the worse imminently.... You imply Schumi will quit? Why would he quit? It is a credit to who he is that too many people consider him a superman. We know that there is no such concept, yet such expectation is irrational and demonstrates a total lack of understanding what happened from 1995 until 2006. Unless there is a valid reason, Heidfeld is not likely to not drive an F1 car in a grand prix. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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