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**baritkello** · 11-13-2009, 03:38 PM

1 & 2 - Brawn
3 & 4 - Red Bull
5 & 6 - Williams (It works, Mansell's Red 5 and the memories it brings with it)
7 & 8 - McLaren (these were their traditional numbers from 1978 onwards bar the odd world championship year and running Ferrari's 27 & 28 in 1990)
9 & 10 - USF1 (The current numbers of the most successful open wheeled team of recent years in the states, Target Chip Ganassi)
11 & 12 - Lotus (Their old numbers from 1980-1994, bar 1988)
15 & 16 - Renault (their traditional numbers, i think they used them when they competed at Le Mans as well)
19 & 20 - Campos (When Senna made his F1 debut, for Toleman, he raced in number 19, would be fitting for Bruno Senna to do the same)
21 & 22 - Manor (If renamed Virgin, they would get to keep Jenson's number that they sponsored last season)
23 & 24 - Toro Rosso (Using Minardi's old traditional numbers)
27 & 28 - Ferrari (When you think Ferrari, you think 27 and 28)
29 & 30 - Qadbak / Sauber (The old Sauber F1 numbers from 1993-95)
31 & 32 - Force India (Jordan's old numbers from 1991)

What numbers do you propose for Brawn when they are no longer running the world champion? Is this what 17&18 was left open for?

**Fainnamoony** · 11-13-2009, 05:16 PM

Renault's numbers were 15 & 16.

Close enough.

27 is more a Williams number though, it was them who brought it to the fore and their 1980 championship victory is the reason why Gilles Villenueve had the 27 on his car.

Before that, the number 27 had no relevance to Ferrari.

Ask most Formula 1 fans which numbers belong to Ferrari and they'll say 27 and 28. I know Alan Jones won more races with that number than any other driver but it doesn't really matter. Gilles started the afinity for it and Alesi cemented the bond. For me, 27 belongs on a scarlet Ferrari and no other car.

7 & 8 were the numbers of the early Ron Dennis era, so do have a Mclaren link.

I agree there's a link there but they don't seem as linked to McLaren as 27 does to Ferrari or 5 does to Williams. If anything, 1 & 2 feel more like McLaren numbers to me, much as it pains me to admit it.

11 & 12 were only really Lotus numbers after 1979....the least successful period in the history of the team.

Senna in the JPS Lotus and then the Camel-yellow cars that followed are why I think of those numbers when I think of Lotus.

All of the above come from the fact that I started watching F1 in the '80s. The numbers bounced around too much prior to that gain a link to any driver or team. Once they stopped swapping numbers they started being an identifiable part of the teams. I will always associate 3 and 4 with Tyrrell even though the team was a shadow of it's former self when it carried those numbers.

**lomonel** · 11-13-2009, 07:37 PM

I guess that's it, isn't it? The numbers the teams held when each of us first started watching F1 are the ones we'd like to see re-established. I became really interested in the early 90's, so Williams 5 & 6 seems natural to me, as does Ferrari 27 & 28 and McLaren 7 & 8.

**Usogwdkb** · 11-13-2009, 08:04 PM

I would have:

Manor - 3 & 4
Williams - 5 & 6 (1980's numeration)
McLaren - 7 & 8 (1980's numbers when they weren't winning everything else)
Force India - 9 & 10
Lotus - 11 & 12 (1980's again)
Red Bull - 14 & 15 (Red Bull have had these numbers four out of the five years they've competed)
STR - 17 & 18
Renault - 19 & 20 (From Benetton numbers)
Brawn - 21 & 22 (As long as they had #22 I suppose)
USF1 - 23 & 24
Campos - 25 & 26
Ferrari - 27 & 28 (Obvious)

**lopaayd** · 11-13-2009, 09:38 PM

I'd like them, with the influx of teams for next season, to set the numbers the way they normally do (Drivers Champion team, then Constructors Championship order, then all the new teams in whatever order they see fit), then stick to those apart from the various swaps for champion.

Yes it's nice to think of Williams 5/6, McLaren 7/8, Lotus 11/12, Ferrari 27/28 etc. but those numbers were the result of a chain reaction of events that started in 1974, when the numbers were set from 1973 championship order: Lotus, Tyrrell, McLaren, Brabham, March, Ferrari, BRM, Shadow, Surtees, Williams, Ensign. With new constructors like Hesketh and Hill next up.

That chain was broken in 1996 and there's nothing we can do about it now, it's time to make some new numerological history

**lopaayd** · 11-13-2009, 09:50 PM

OK, just for a bit of fun, I'm going to see how the numbers would have turned out (with a bit of artistic licence), if the order of merit system for 1996 was never adopted:

*s indicate where I've decided to arbitrarily fill in the gaps a bit with teams from the end.

1996:
1 2 Ferrari
3 4 Tyrrell
5 6 Williams
7 8 McLaren
9 10 Footwork
14 15 Jordan
16 17 Sauber*
21 22 Forti
23 24 Minardi
25 26 Ligier
27 28 Benetton

1997:
1 2 Arrows
3 4 Tyrrell
5 6 Williams
7 8 McLaren
9 10 Ferrari
11 12 Benetton*
14 15 Jordan
16 17 Sauber
23 24 Minardi
25 26 Prost
27 28 Stewart
29 30 Lola

1998:
1 2 Williams
3 4 Tyrrell
5 6 Arrows
7 8 McLaren
9 10 Ferrari
11 12 Benetton
14 15 Jordan
16 17 Sauber
19 20 Minardi*
21 22 Stewart*
25 26 Prost

1999:
1 2 McLaren
3 4 BAR
5 6 Arrows
7 8 Williams
9 10 Ferrari
11 12 Benetton
14 15 Jordan
16 17 Sauber
19 20 Minardi
21 22 Stewart
25 26 Prost

2000:
1 2 McLaren
3 4 BAR
5 6 Arrows
7 8 Williams
9 10 Ferrari
11 12 Benetton
14 15 Jordan
16 17 Sauber
19 20 Minardi
21 22 Jaguar
25 26 Prost

2001:
1 2 Ferrari
3 4 BAR
5 6 Arrows
7 8 Williams
9 10 McLaren
11 12 Benetton
14 15 Jordan
16 17 Sauber
19 20 Minardi
21 22 Jaguar
25 26 Prost

2002:
1 2 Ferrari
3 4 BAR
5 6 Arrows
7 8 Williams
9 10 McLaren
11 12 Renault
14 15 Jordan
16 17 Sauber
19 20 Minardi
21 22 Jaguar
23 24 Toyota

2003:
1 2 Ferrari
3 4 BAR
5 6 Toyota*
7 8 Williams
9 10 McLaren
11 12 Renault
14 15 Jordan
16 17 Sauber
19 20 Minardi
21 22 Jaguar

2004:
1 2 Ferrari
3 4 BAR
5 6 Toyota
7 8 Williams
9 10 McLaren
11 12 Renault
14 15 Jordan
16 17 Sauber
19 20 Minardi
21 22 Jaguar

2005:
1 2 Ferrari
3 4 BAR
5 6 Toyota
7 8 Williams
9 10 McLaren
11 12 Renault
14 15 Jordan
16 17 Sauber
19 20 Minardi
21 22 Red Bull

2006:
1 2 Renault
3 4 Honda
5 6 Toyota
7 8 Williams
9 10 McLaren
11 12 Ferrari
14 15 Midland
16 17 BMW
19 20 Toro Rosso
21 22 Red Bull
23 24 Super Aguri

2007:
1 2 McLaren
3 4 Honda
5 6 Toyota
7 8 Williams
9 10 Renault
11 12 Ferrari
14 15 Spyker
16 17 BMW
19 20 Toro Rosso
21 22 Red Bull
23 24 Super Aguri

2008:
1 2 Ferrari
3 4 Honda
5 6 Toyota
7 8 Williams
9 10 Renault
11 12 McLaren
14 15 Force India
16 17 BMW
19 20 Toro Rosso
21 22 Red Bull
23 24 Super Aguri

2009:
1 2 McLaren
3 4 Brawn
5 6 Toyota
7 8 Williams
9 10 Renault
11 12 Ferrari
14 15 Force India
16 17 BMW
19 20 Toro Rosso
21 22 Red Bull

2010:
1 2 Brawn
3 4 McLaren
5 6 Red Bull*
7 8 Williams
9 10 Renault
11 12 Ferrari
14 15 Force India
16 17 Sauber
19 20 Toro Rosso
21 22 Campos
23 24 Manor
25 26 USF1
27 28 Lotus

There we go

If only I could make a way to swap Ferrari and Lotus hey

**lomonel** · 11-13-2009, 11:37 PM

Seriously V12, do you not have job?!

**TimEricsson** · 11-14-2009, 12:46 AM

wow V12, you have ALOT of time on your hands. have you ever visited that place called 'the outside world'?

although, very well constructed all the same, and intriging for sure!

**lopaayd** · 11-14-2009, 02:13 AM

Slow day in the office

**TimEricsson** · 11-14-2009, 02:54 PM

Slow day in the office

that explains all!

**Moupponge** · 11-17-2009, 05:00 AM

hence if I was Mercedes I'd want the Brawns to be numbered 658 and 722.

... addenda:

If I was Mercedes I'd want the Mercedes to be numbered 658 and 722.

If Button goes to McLaren next year, then the teams will be entitled to:

1 2 - McLaren
3 4 - Red Bull Racing
5 6 - Ferrari
11 12 - Williams
14 15 - Renault (maybe?)
16 17 - Force India
18 19 - Toro Rosso
20 21 - US F1
22 23 - Campos
24 25 - Manor
26 27 - Lotus
28 29 - Qadbak
30 31 - Mercedes

Mercedes would be considered a new entrant and therefore be shuffled to the end of the queue. I also suspect that the FIA are looking to extract another $48 million in entrance fees from MB if they possibly can.

**baritkello** · 11-17-2009, 04:10 PM

Mercedes would be considered a new entrant and therefore be shuffled to the end of the queue. I also suspect that the FIA are looking to extract another $48 million in entrance fees from MB if they possibly can.

Is Mercedes a new entrant? I would have thought it would just be a change of name? Hence Mercedes would be running 3 & 4.

**lopaayd** · 11-17-2009, 04:31 PM

Brawn being moved to the back last year was an exceptional circumstance due to the lateness of the change and all the ugly politics that were swilling round at the time. For instance when Jaguar took over Stewart they kept 7 and 8, when Red Bull took over Jaguar they kept the 14 and 15. Mercedes will 99% certain have 3 and 4 next year, unless by some miracle Button stays and they will have 1 and 2.

And the numbers were retained as Jordan went through god knows how many changes of name before becoming Force India

The only thing that might happen next year is Sauber being shunted to the back rather than getting BMW's numbers because of the whole not signing Concorde Agreement/getting in as a reserve thing. Again, politics.

I also suspect that the FIA are looking to extract another $48 million in entrance fees from MB if they possibly can.

I thought that ridiculous rule was (thankfully) dropped for this year? If not, how did the new teams afford that? The whole craze of buying existing teams rather than setting up their own was (partly) because of the need to avoid paying this bond. I may be wrong but I think only Toyota ever did. Oh and Super Aguri probably, via Honda.

**Usogwdkb** · 11-17-2009, 05:54 PM

OK take two...

McLaren:
1. Button
2. Hamilton

Mercedes:
3. Rosberg
4. Heidfeld

Red Bull:
5. Vettel
6. Webber

Ferrari:
7. Alonso
8. Massa

Williams:
9. Barrichello
10. Hulkenberg

Renault:
11. Kubica
12. ???

Force India:
14. Sutil
15. Liuzzi

STR:
16. Buemi
17. Alguersuari

USF1:
18. ???
19. ???

Campos:
20. Senna
21. ???

Manor:
22. Glock
23. ???

Lotus:
24. Trulli?
25.

**DrunkMans** · 11-17-2009, 05:57 PM

If Alguersuari doesn't improve I wouldn't be surprised if STR shoved Ricciardo in the seat after halfway through the season.

**nithhysfusy** · 11-17-2009, 08:57 PM

If Alguersuari doesn't improve I wouldn't be surprised if STR shoved Ricciardo in the seat after halfway through the season.

MUCH better choice! The kid has 100 times more talent than Algaeboy. No need to wait for halfway during the season, do it NOW!

**Buyemae** · 11-17-2009, 10:30 PM

MUCH better choice! The kid has 100 times more talent than Algaeboy. No need to wait for halfway during the season, do it NOW!

Jaime did a good job, do't see what people are complaining about. He's so young, like Buemi. Give him a couple of years and he'll be pretty useful.

11-13-2009, 03:38 PM	#21
baritkello Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 437 Senior Member	1 & 2 - Brawn 3 & 4 - Red Bull 5 & 6 - Williams (It works, Mansell's Red 5 and the memories it brings with it) 7 & 8 - McLaren (these were their traditional numbers from 1978 onwards bar the odd world championship year and running Ferrari's 27 & 28 in 1990) 9 & 10 - USF1 (The current numbers of the most successful open wheeled team of recent years in the states, Target Chip Ganassi) 11 & 12 - Lotus (Their old numbers from 1980-1994, bar 1988) 15 & 16 - Renault (their traditional numbers, i think they used them when they competed at Le Mans as well) 19 & 20 - Campos (When Senna made his F1 debut, for Toleman, he raced in number 19, would be fitting for Bruno Senna to do the same) 21 & 22 - Manor (If renamed Virgin, they would get to keep Jenson's number that they sponsored last season) 23 & 24 - Toro Rosso (Using Minardi's old traditional numbers) 27 & 28 - Ferrari (When you think Ferrari, you think 27 and 28) 29 & 30 - Qadbak / Sauber (The old Sauber F1 numbers from 1993-95) 31 & 32 - Force India (Jordan's old numbers from 1991) What numbers do you propose for Brawn when they are no longer running the world champion? Is this what 17&18 was left open for? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Fainnamoony Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 513 Senior Member	Renault's numbers were 15 & 16. Close enough. 27 is more a Williams number though, it was them who brought it to the fore and their 1980 championship victory is the reason why Gilles Villenueve had the 27 on his car. Before that, the number 27 had no relevance to Ferrari. Ask most Formula 1 fans which numbers belong to Ferrari and they'll say 27 and 28. I know Alan Jones won more races with that number than any other driver but it doesn't really matter. Gilles started the afinity for it and Alesi cemented the bond. For me, 27 belongs on a scarlet Ferrari and no other car. 7 & 8 were the numbers of the early Ron Dennis era, so do have a Mclaren link. I agree there's a link there but they don't seem as linked to McLaren as 27 does to Ferrari or 5 does to Williams. If anything, 1 & 2 feel more like McLaren numbers to me, much as it pains me to admit it. 11 & 12 were only really Lotus numbers after 1979....the least successful period in the history of the team. Senna in the JPS Lotus and then the Camel-yellow cars that followed are why I think of those numbers when I think of Lotus. All of the above come from the fact that I started watching F1 in the '80s. The numbers bounced around too much prior to that gain a link to any driver or team. Once they stopped swapping numbers they started being an identifiable part of the teams. I will always associate 3 and 4 with Tyrrell even though the team was a shadow of it's former self when it carried those numbers. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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lomonel Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 648 Senior Member	I guess that's it, isn't it? The numbers the teams held when each of us first started watching F1 are the ones we'd like to see re-established. I became really interested in the early 90's, so Williams 5 & 6 seems natural to me, as does Ferrari 27 & 28 and McLaren 7 & 8. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-13-2009, 08:04 PM	#24
Usogwdkb Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 420 Senior Member	I would have: Manor - 3 & 4 Williams - 5 & 6 (1980's numeration) McLaren - 7 & 8 (1980's numbers when they weren't winning everything else) Force India - 9 & 10 Lotus - 11 & 12 (1980's again) Red Bull - 14 & 15 (Red Bull have had these numbers four out of the five years they've competed) STR - 17 & 18 Renault - 19 & 20 (From Benetton numbers) Brawn - 21 & 22 (As long as they had #22 I suppose) USF1 - 23 & 24 Campos - 25 & 26 Ferrari - 27 & 28 (Obvious) Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-13-2009, 09:38 PM	#25
lopaayd Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 511 Senior Member	I'd like them, with the influx of teams for next season, to set the numbers the way they normally do (Drivers Champion team, then Constructors Championship order, then all the new teams in whatever order they see fit), then stick to those apart from the various swaps for champion. Yes it's nice to think of Williams 5/6, McLaren 7/8, Lotus 11/12, Ferrari 27/28 etc. but those numbers were the result of a chain reaction of events that started in 1974, when the numbers were set from 1973 championship order: Lotus, Tyrrell, McLaren, Brabham, March, Ferrari, BRM, Shadow, Surtees, Williams, Ensign. With new constructors like Hesketh and Hill next up. That chain was broken in 1996 and there's nothing we can do about it now, it's time to make some new numerological history Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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lopaayd Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 511 Senior Member	OK, just for a bit of fun, I'm going to see how the numbers would have turned out (with a bit of artistic licence), if the order of merit system for 1996 was never adopted: s indicate where I've decided to arbitrarily fill in the gaps a bit with teams from the end. 1996: 1 2 Ferrari 3 4 Tyrrell 5 6 Williams 7 8 McLaren 9 10 Footwork 14 15 Jordan 16 17 Sauber 21 22 Forti 23 24 Minardi 25 26 Ligier 27 28 Benetton 1997: 1 2 Arrows 3 4 Tyrrell 5 6 Williams 7 8 McLaren 9 10 Ferrari 11 12 Benetton* 14 15 Jordan 16 17 Sauber 23 24 Minardi 25 26 Prost 27 28 Stewart 29 30 Lola 1998: 1 2 Williams 3 4 Tyrrell 5 6 Arrows 7 8 McLaren 9 10 Ferrari 11 12 Benetton 14 15 Jordan 16 17 Sauber 19 20 Minardi* 21 22 Stewart* 25 26 Prost 1999: 1 2 McLaren 3 4 BAR 5 6 Arrows 7 8 Williams 9 10 Ferrari 11 12 Benetton 14 15 Jordan 16 17 Sauber 19 20 Minardi 21 22 Stewart 25 26 Prost 2000: 1 2 McLaren 3 4 BAR 5 6 Arrows 7 8 Williams 9 10 Ferrari 11 12 Benetton 14 15 Jordan 16 17 Sauber 19 20 Minardi 21 22 Jaguar 25 26 Prost 2001: 1 2 Ferrari 3 4 BAR 5 6 Arrows 7 8 Williams 9 10 McLaren 11 12 Benetton 14 15 Jordan 16 17 Sauber 19 20 Minardi 21 22 Jaguar 25 26 Prost 2002: 1 2 Ferrari 3 4 BAR 5 6 Arrows 7 8 Williams 9 10 McLaren 11 12 Renault 14 15 Jordan 16 17 Sauber 19 20 Minardi 21 22 Jaguar 23 24 Toyota 2003: 1 2 Ferrari 3 4 BAR 5 6 Toyota* 7 8 Williams 9 10 McLaren 11 12 Renault 14 15 Jordan 16 17 Sauber 19 20 Minardi 21 22 Jaguar 2004: 1 2 Ferrari 3 4 BAR 5 6 Toyota 7 8 Williams 9 10 McLaren 11 12 Renault 14 15 Jordan 16 17 Sauber 19 20 Minardi 21 22 Jaguar 2005: 1 2 Ferrari 3 4 BAR 5 6 Toyota 7 8 Williams 9 10 McLaren 11 12 Renault 14 15 Jordan 16 17 Sauber 19 20 Minardi 21 22 Red Bull 2006: 1 2 Renault 3 4 Honda 5 6 Toyota 7 8 Williams 9 10 McLaren 11 12 Ferrari 14 15 Midland 16 17 BMW 19 20 Toro Rosso 21 22 Red Bull 23 24 Super Aguri 2007: 1 2 McLaren 3 4 Honda 5 6 Toyota 7 8 Williams 9 10 Renault 11 12 Ferrari 14 15 Spyker 16 17 BMW 19 20 Toro Rosso 21 22 Red Bull 23 24 Super Aguri 2008: 1 2 Ferrari 3 4 Honda 5 6 Toyota 7 8 Williams 9 10 Renault 11 12 McLaren 14 15 Force India 16 17 BMW 19 20 Toro Rosso 21 22 Red Bull 23 24 Super Aguri 2009: 1 2 McLaren 3 4 Brawn 5 6 Toyota 7 8 Williams 9 10 Renault 11 12 Ferrari 14 15 Force India 16 17 BMW 19 20 Toro Rosso 21 22 Red Bull 2010: 1 2 Brawn 3 4 McLaren 5 6 Red Bull* 7 8 Williams 9 10 Renault 11 12 Ferrari 14 15 Force India 16 17 Sauber 19 20 Toro Rosso 21 22 Campos 23 24 Manor 25 26 USF1 27 28 Lotus There we go If only I could make a way to swap Ferrari and Lotus hey Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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lomonel Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 648 Senior Member	Seriously V12, do you not have job?! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-14-2009, 12:46 AM	#28
TimEricsson Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 341 Senior Member	wow V12, you have ALOT of time on your hands. have you ever visited that place called 'the outside world'? although, very well constructed all the same, and intriging for sure! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-14-2009, 02:13 AM	#29
lopaayd Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 511 Senior Member	Slow day in the office Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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TimEricsson Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 341 Senior Member	Slow day in the office that explains all! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 05:00 AM	#31
Moupponge Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 436 Senior Member	hence if I was Mercedes I'd want the Brawns to be numbered 658 and 722. ... addenda: If I was Mercedes I'd want the Mercedes to be numbered 658 and 722. If Button goes to McLaren next year, then the teams will be entitled to: 1 2 - McLaren 3 4 - Red Bull Racing 5 6 - Ferrari 11 12 - Williams 14 15 - Renault (maybe?) 16 17 - Force India 18 19 - Toro Rosso 20 21 - US F1 22 23 - Campos 24 25 - Manor 26 27 - Lotus 28 29 - Qadbak 30 31 - Mercedes Mercedes would be considered a new entrant and therefore be shuffled to the end of the queue. I also suspect that the FIA are looking to extract another $48 million in entrance fees from MB if they possibly can. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 04:10 PM	#32
baritkello Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 437 Senior Member	Mercedes would be considered a new entrant and therefore be shuffled to the end of the queue. I also suspect that the FIA are looking to extract another $48 million in entrance fees from MB if they possibly can. Is Mercedes a new entrant? I would have thought it would just be a change of name? Hence Mercedes would be running 3 & 4. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 04:31 PM	#33
lopaayd Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 511 Senior Member	Brawn being moved to the back last year was an exceptional circumstance due to the lateness of the change and all the ugly politics that were swilling round at the time. For instance when Jaguar took over Stewart they kept 7 and 8, when Red Bull took over Jaguar they kept the 14 and 15. Mercedes will 99% certain have 3 and 4 next year, unless by some miracle Button stays and they will have 1 and 2. And the numbers were retained as Jordan went through god knows how many changes of name before becoming Force India The only thing that might happen next year is Sauber being shunted to the back rather than getting BMW's numbers because of the whole not signing Concorde Agreement/getting in as a reserve thing. Again, politics. I also suspect that the FIA are looking to extract another $48 million in entrance fees from MB if they possibly can. I thought that ridiculous rule was (thankfully) dropped for this year? If not, how did the new teams afford that? The whole craze of buying existing teams rather than setting up their own was (partly) because of the need to avoid paying this bond. I may be wrong but I think only Toyota ever did. Oh and Super Aguri probably, via Honda. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 05:54 PM	#34
Usogwdkb Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 420 Senior Member	OK take two... McLaren: 1. Button 2. Hamilton Mercedes: 3. Rosberg 4. Heidfeld Red Bull: 5. Vettel 6. Webber Ferrari: 7. Alonso 8. Massa Williams: 9. Barrichello 10. Hulkenberg Renault: 11. Kubica 12. ??? Force India: 14. Sutil 15. Liuzzi STR: 16. Buemi 17. Alguersuari USF1: 18. ??? 19. ??? Campos: 20. Senna 21. ??? Manor: 22. Glock 23. ??? Lotus: 24. Trulli? 25. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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DrunkMans Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 457 Senior Member	If Alguersuari doesn't improve I wouldn't be surprised if STR shoved Ricciardo in the seat after halfway through the season. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 08:57 PM	#36
nithhysfusy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 552 Senior Member	If Alguersuari doesn't improve I wouldn't be surprised if STR shoved Ricciardo in the seat after halfway through the season. MUCH better choice! The kid has 100 times more talent than Algaeboy. No need to wait for halfway during the season, do it NOW! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 10:30 PM	#37
Buyemae Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 607 Senior Member	MUCH better choice! The kid has 100 times more talent than Algaeboy. No need to wait for halfway during the season, do it NOW! Jaime did a good job, do't see what people are complaining about. He's so young, like Buemi. Give him a couple of years and he'll be pretty useful. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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