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Old 11-03-2009, 07:27 AM   #21
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I think, next year at least, Rubens will take Hulkenberg to school, whilst racking up 300 GPs in the process.

I'm not sure about the credibility of the rumours surrounding the Cosworth engine. A team like Williams, and possibly Red Bull, wouldn't jeopardise their title chances by going for an engine which will guarantee they are fighting for 16th place at the maximum, and finishing every race 2-3 laps down. They simply aren't that stupid.

The Cosworth was the best engine on the grid in terms of power in 2006, so I think it's just scaremongering.
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:55 AM   #22
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Kimi's publically dismissed Toyota out of hand (or rather, he said that it was McLaren or bust as far as F1 went).



Well, when you remember that the price for the Toyotas was Nakajima, one of the reasons they're taking the risk is obvious. The other is that Toyota may be pulling out ANYWAY, and if so they'd be hunting for a replacement engine much closer to the wire.



Power at high-revs is no help with rev-limited regs - Mercedes had trouble getting their engine to rev high, but with an 18krpm limit they're the class of the field.



See, here's the problem for the Cosworth runners - fuel. The Cosworth engine was one of the thirstiest in 2006, and with refuelling banned next year, a thirsty engine is a bigger penalty than ever.

Remember this from a couple of months back?3-4 seconds. Per lap. After a 2009 with the field spread as low as than 1s/lap.
very good points and an intersitng read.
I have zero confidence in the reliability or quality of the cosworth engines, and if the article is close to the truth, then those cars are screwed. So much for Mosley' blackmailing teams to use cosworths as a requirement for approval. All he wanted was to have his vision of a single engine series come true, even if that engine is useless. Man, I am glad he is gone, the damage this man has done via the FIA on F1 is without match.

I feel sorry of Rubens and hulkenberg. Rubens should have retired this year rathwer than have a swan song in mediocrity.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:55 PM   #23
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I think that this article is very old, before FIA allowed Cosworth to do some work on the engine.
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:43 PM   #24
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A good driver pairing for Williams next season. The mixture of youth and experience should see them do well. The signing of Rubens Barrichello is key to the team as Nico Hulkenberg couldn't wish for a better team mate to learn the ropes of F1. What's more Barrichello's feed back during the winter testing will be crucial as the team seek to integrate their new car with the new Cosworth engine.
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:53 PM   #25
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Remember this from a couple of months back?3-4 seconds. Per lap. After a 2009 with the field spread as low as than 1s/lap.
I can't see Williams signing up with Cosworth knowing they are going to be 3-4 secs a lap slower than most of the field. Why would they do that? The Cosworth engine may have been one of the thirstiest in 2006, but that's a long time ago now.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:04 PM   #26
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I can't see Williams signing up with Cosworth knowing they are going to be 3-4 secs a lap slower than most of the field. Why would they do that? The Cosworth engine may have been one of the thirstiest in 2006, but that's a long time ago now.
And they've still got until March to keep working on it, with the knowledge that it's going to have to run a race on one tank of fuel - an opportunity that none of the other engine suppliers have.
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:33 PM   #27
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Very happy with that. Barrichello is still fast and hitting 300 GPs will be something special! Hulkenberg has been very impressive in GP2 and Williams clearly rate him as he's been the reserve driver all year.

The Cosworth will be fine, especially as it is a "new" engine so can be tweaked up until the 1st March..

The technical team at Williams, which Patrick Head believes is approaching the level to produce the kind of work Williams came up with in its glory days, believes that the Cosworth will be a competitive engine, albeit possibly quite high on fuel consumption, which is a penalty with no refueling next year.

But as a new engine, the technical team at Cosworth are allowed to continue developing the engine until March 1 next year, which gives them a lot of time to improve the product. Existing F1 engines are frozen.

Although reliability is unproven and there is no track testing allowed, the team at Cosworth has been supplemented recently by many engineers returning from other engine programmes, such as Mercedes’ in Brixworth. Head believes that this makes Cosworth the right option, but I still believe that there is some kind of wider business reason for this which may become clear down the line. http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/1...nd-experience/
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