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**ggiifdfalls** · 10-04-2009, 09:42 PM

Kubica's comments after the race:

"The entire weekend was unlucky for me," he said. "Yesterday I wasn't able to show my good pace due to the red and yellow flags. Today I was stuck in traffic a couple of times. Furthermore I lost much time at the beginning of the race with a heavy and understeering car.

"Once the car was lighter and I got into my rhythm I was quite quick. I was then very unlucky with my first pit stop, as after the stop both Kimi and Nick were in front of me. That cost me time.

"Also after the safety car period I was in traffic. I was stuck behind Jenson. I was quicker than him in the corners, but was not able to overtake as we were missing some top speed on the straights."

Is he for real?!
He was stuck in traffic or was he rather not able to pass cars on track? Maybe he should take up rallying as soon as next season.

I wish Renault all the best with a driver who can only complain and find excuses.

**infarrelisam** · 10-04-2009, 09:58 PM

Is he for real?!
He was stuck in traffic or was he rather not able to pass cars on track? .

Here goes -

He was stuck in traffic because he couldn't pass other cars on track.

Are you for real?

**santorio** · 10-04-2009, 10:01 PM

I see nothing in Kubica's comments which are markedly different from any other non-winning driver after any given race.

**DavidQD** · 10-04-2009, 10:40 PM

Nothing like shreading a guy who was just explaining his race the way he saw it.
I would be really disapointed if he said somethimng like:
"I came out behind Button and realized that he would whip my @$$ no matter how hard I tried"

**PypeMaypetasy** · 10-05-2009, 01:06 AM

:
"I came out behind Button and realized that he would whip my @$$ no matter how hard I tried"

I can agree with this statement

**bonyclayd** · 10-05-2009, 01:25 AM

Criticising Kubica!!!

That is the height of assinine!

Oh but we forget - he does not drive a Ferrari.

Remember: Fischella good / Kubica bad....

**Solo3uc4** · 10-05-2009, 01:38 AM

nothing wrong with what kubica said. move along

**ggiifdfalls** · 10-05-2009, 02:53 AM

He's just a whine baby, pretty big one on top of that.

**Bvghbopz** · 10-05-2009, 03:07 AM

I can't see anything wrong with a driver expressing that he was unlucky at certain points in a race... Barrichello had a melt down in an interview earlier in the season, and you defended him ioan...

Let me tell you one thing, I appreciate more a person who will say out loud what he thinks than a nobody who will bend over without a whisper!
The first one is a man, the second one is a whore.

I don't see how Kubica's comments are worse than Rubens...

**AsmViktor** · 10-05-2009, 03:10 AM

He's just a whine baby, pretty big one on top of that.

Considering Rubens and Massa's little recent outbursts it must be the season for whining

**ggiifdfalls** · 10-05-2009, 04:00 AM

I can't see anything wrong with a driver expressing that he was unlucky at certain points in a race... Barrichello had a melt down in an interview earlier in the season, and you defended him ioan...

I know why I defended Rubens, because he was treated like dirt by his team.

Why I started this thread? Because I had enough of drivers telling us that they were stuck in traffic, instead of telling us how they were unable to do better.
Also the quote was part of an article where Heidfeld gave his view on his own race and man it was different from what Kubica chose to say.

**ggiifdfalls** · 10-05-2009, 04:01 AM

Considering Rubens and Massa's little recent outbursts it must be the season for whining

Massa's recent outburst? He didn't even race for half of the season.

**Rexaviennatutr** · 10-05-2009, 06:07 AM

A wonderful opportunity to trade pleasantries.

**Flatlytaize** · 10-05-2009, 07:08 AM

Why I started this thread? Because I had enough of drivers telling us that they were stuck in traffic, instead of telling us how they were unable to do better.

When Button was stuck behind Sutil and Kovy he was lapping in the 1min mid-30s and complaining of understeer but after Sutil & Kovy collision Button was released into clean air and lapping 2s quicker in the 1min 33s.

Also the quote was part of an article where Heidfeld gave his view on his own race and man it was different from what Kubica chose to say.

Kubica has every right to feel p*ssed. BMW released Heidfeld right into the path of Kubica which compromised Kubica's race. Nobody likes to be beaten by their team mate.

Massa's recent outburst? He didn't even race for half of the season.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8286418.stm

**bonyclayd** · 10-05-2009, 07:19 AM

I know why I defended Rubens, because he was treated like dirt by his team.

Why I started this thread? Because I had enough of drivers telling us that they were stuck in traffic, instead of telling us how they were unable to do better.
Also the quote was part of an article where Heidfeld gave his view on his own race and man it was different from what Kubica chose to say.

Oh my god you have had enough!! The drivers in f1 will now be quaking in their racing boots!

The Brawn team have never treated Barrichello like "dirt" as you so melodramatically suggest.

Look back at Spain after he saw the evidence along with everyone else illustrated that his laps times were slower and he lost his lead.

The whole situation since Hungary if I recall has been that the team has SOLVED the issues he had. Prior to that he had brake feel issues. And actually Rubens mentioned it this weekend.

But then why should you pay attention to the truth. You just enjoy being angry all the time.

**forebirdo** · 10-05-2009, 08:39 AM

Kubica has every right to feel p*ssed. BMW released Heidfeld right into the path of Kubica which compromised Kubica's race. Nobody likes to be beaten by their team mate.

Yes they did release Heidfeld in front of him, but Nick was fighting for 4th place.

BMW didn't care when they made Heidfeld move over for Robert in Canada 2008, when Nick had it in the bag. No offence to Kubica, but he was gifted his victory.

He is a good driver, and I quite like the guy, but this shows that Heidfeld has him a bit rattled.

Funny how Kubica might be going to Renault, but yet Heidfeld has beaten him in 2 out of their 3 full seasons together. I know who I'd take - Quick Nick.

**Rexaviennatutr** · 10-05-2009, 08:52 AM

Funny how Kubica might be going to Renault, but yet Heidfeld has beaten him in 2 out of their 3 full seasons together. I know who I'd take - Quick Nick.

Strange that you should mention this. I have always felt that Nick, by luck or whatever, has somehow been the guy who has been overlooked or under-estimated. I'd like to see him in a really competitive car.

**SerycegeBunny** · 10-05-2009, 09:14 AM

Strange that you should mention this. I have always felt that Nick, by luck or whatever, has somehow been the guy who has been overlooked or under-estimated. I'd like to see him in a really competitive car.

He had one in 07 and 08

Nothing flash about Heidfeld

**Filmania** · 10-05-2009, 09:19 AM

I can understand why Ioan feels a bit peeved off over Kubica's comments. Personally myself, they sound like more and more like excuses every race weekend. But its not something you should start a thread about. There are some things you should just keep to yourself man, especially in the manner that you slated him.

**forebirdo** · 10-05-2009, 10:27 AM

Strange that you should mention this. I have always felt that Nick, by luck or whatever, has somehow been the guy who has been overlooked or under-estimated. I'd like to see him in a really competitive car.

Well he did a great drive yesterday, and he's ahead of Kubica 15-9 in points. If it was the other way round I could guarantee we would be bombarded with posts saying Nick should retire.

He's outperformed Kubica comprehensively this year IMO, and deserves to be on the grid next year with a competitive Sauber team, if not somewhere else.

2006 (6 GPs) - Heidfeld 10 points, Kubica 6
2007 - Heidfeld 61, Kubica 39
2008 - Heidfeld 60, Kubica 75
2009 - Heidfeld 15, Kubica 9

Total - Heidfeld 146, Kubica 129

They have been fairly evenly matched, but IMO Nick has had the advantage over the period they have teamed together.

However we must remember that Robert is much younger than Nick, so he will probably get better.

10-04-2009, 09:42 PM	#1
ggiifdfalls Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 540 Senior Member	News Flash to Robert Kubica: F1 is about racing Kubica's comments after the race: "The entire weekend was unlucky for me," he said. "Yesterday I wasn't able to show my good pace due to the red and yellow flags. Today I was stuck in traffic a couple of times. Furthermore I lost much time at the beginning of the race with a heavy and understeering car. "Once the car was lighter and I got into my rhythm I was quite quick. I was then very unlucky with my first pit stop, as after the stop both Kimi and Nick were in front of me. That cost me time. "Also after the safety car period I was in traffic. I was stuck behind Jenson. I was quicker than him in the corners, but was not able to overtake as we were missing some top speed on the straights." Is he for real?! He was stuck in traffic or was he rather not able to pass cars on track? Maybe he should take up rallying as soon as next season. I wish Renault all the best with a driver who can only complain and find excuses. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-04-2009, 09:58 PM	#2
infarrelisam Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 428 Senior Member	Is he for real?! He was stuck in traffic or was he rather not able to pass cars on track? . Here goes - He was stuck in traffic because he couldn't pass other cars on track. Are you for real? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-04-2009, 10:01 PM	#3
santorio Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 470 Senior Member	I see nothing in Kubica's comments which are markedly different from any other non-winning driver after any given race. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-04-2009, 10:40 PM	#4
DavidQD Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 482 Senior Member	Nothing like shreading a guy who was just explaining his race the way he saw it. I would be really disapointed if he said somethimng like: "I came out behind Button and realized that he would whip my @$$ no matter how hard I tried" Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2009, 01:06 AM	#5
PypeMaypetasy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 636 Senior Member	: "I came out behind Button and realized that he would whip my @$$ no matter how hard I tried" I can agree with this statement Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2009, 01:25 AM	#6
bonyclayd Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 671 Senior Member	Criticising Kubica!!! That is the height of assinine! Oh but we forget - he does not drive a Ferrari. Remember: Fischella good / Kubica bad.... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2009, 01:38 AM	#7
Solo3uc4 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 460 Senior Member	nothing wrong with what kubica said. move along Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2009, 02:53 AM	#8
ggiifdfalls Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 540 Senior Member	He's just a whine baby, pretty big one on top of that. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2009, 03:07 AM	#9
Bvghbopz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 528 Senior Member	I can't see anything wrong with a driver expressing that he was unlucky at certain points in a race... Barrichello had a melt down in an interview earlier in the season, and you defended him ioan... Let me tell you one thing, I appreciate more a person who will say out loud what he thinks than a nobody who will bend over without a whisper! The first one is a man, the second one is a whore. I don't see how Kubica's comments are worse than Rubens... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2009, 03:10 AM	#10
AsmViktor Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 562 Senior Member	He's just a whine baby, pretty big one on top of that. Considering Rubens and Massa's little recent outbursts it must be the season for whining Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2009, 04:00 AM	#11
ggiifdfalls Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 540 Senior Member	I can't see anything wrong with a driver expressing that he was unlucky at certain points in a race... Barrichello had a melt down in an interview earlier in the season, and you defended him ioan... I know why I defended Rubens, because he was treated like dirt by his team. Why I started this thread? Because I had enough of drivers telling us that they were stuck in traffic, instead of telling us how they were unable to do better. Also the quote was part of an article where Heidfeld gave his view on his own race and man it was different from what Kubica chose to say. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2009, 04:01 AM	#12
ggiifdfalls Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 540 Senior Member	Considering Rubens and Massa's little recent outbursts it must be the season for whining Massa's recent outburst? He didn't even race for half of the season. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2009, 06:07 AM	#13
Rexaviennatutr Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 569 Senior Member	A wonderful opportunity to trade pleasantries. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2009, 07:08 AM	#14
Flatlytaize Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 471 Senior Member	Why I started this thread? Because I had enough of drivers telling us that they were stuck in traffic, instead of telling us how they were unable to do better. When Button was stuck behind Sutil and Kovy he was lapping in the 1min mid-30s and complaining of understeer but after Sutil & Kovy collision Button was released into clean air and lapping 2s quicker in the 1min 33s. Also the quote was part of an article where Heidfeld gave his view on his own race and man it was different from what Kubica chose to say. Kubica has every right to feel p*ssed. BMW released Heidfeld right into the path of Kubica which compromised Kubica's race. Nobody likes to be beaten by their team mate. Massa's recent outburst? He didn't even race for half of the season. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8286418.stm Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2009, 07:19 AM	#15
bonyclayd Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 671 Senior Member	I know why I defended Rubens, because he was treated like dirt by his team. Why I started this thread? Because I had enough of drivers telling us that they were stuck in traffic, instead of telling us how they were unable to do better. Also the quote was part of an article where Heidfeld gave his view on his own race and man it was different from what Kubica chose to say. Oh my god you have had enough!! The drivers in f1 will now be quaking in their racing boots! The Brawn team have never treated Barrichello like "dirt" as you so melodramatically suggest. Look back at Spain after he saw the evidence along with everyone else illustrated that his laps times were slower and he lost his lead. The whole situation since Hungary if I recall has been that the team has SOLVED the issues he had. Prior to that he had brake feel issues. And actually Rubens mentioned it this weekend. But then why should you pay attention to the truth. You just enjoy being angry all the time. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2009, 08:39 AM	#16
forebirdo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 584 Senior Member	Kubica has every right to feel p*ssed. BMW released Heidfeld right into the path of Kubica which compromised Kubica's race. Nobody likes to be beaten by their team mate. Yes they did release Heidfeld in front of him, but Nick was fighting for 4th place. BMW didn't care when they made Heidfeld move over for Robert in Canada 2008, when Nick had it in the bag. No offence to Kubica, but he was gifted his victory. He is a good driver, and I quite like the guy, but this shows that Heidfeld has him a bit rattled. Funny how Kubica might be going to Renault, but yet Heidfeld has beaten him in 2 out of their 3 full seasons together. I know who I'd take - Quick Nick. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2009, 08:52 AM	#17
Rexaviennatutr Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 569 Senior Member	Funny how Kubica might be going to Renault, but yet Heidfeld has beaten him in 2 out of their 3 full seasons together. I know who I'd take - Quick Nick. Strange that you should mention this. I have always felt that Nick, by luck or whatever, has somehow been the guy who has been overlooked or under-estimated. I'd like to see him in a really competitive car. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2009, 09:14 AM	#18
SerycegeBunny Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 590 Senior Member	Strange that you should mention this. I have always felt that Nick, by luck or whatever, has somehow been the guy who has been overlooked or under-estimated. I'd like to see him in a really competitive car. He had one in 07 and 08 Nothing flash about Heidfeld Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2009, 09:19 AM	#19
Filmania Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 478 Senior Member	I can understand why Ioan feels a bit peeved off over Kubica's comments. Personally myself, they sound like more and more like excuses every race weekend. But its not something you should start a thread about. There are some things you should just keep to yourself man, especially in the manner that you slated him. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2009, 10:27 AM	#20
forebirdo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 584 Senior Member	Strange that you should mention this. I have always felt that Nick, by luck or whatever, has somehow been the guy who has been overlooked or under-estimated. I'd like to see him in a really competitive car. Well he did a great drive yesterday, and he's ahead of Kubica 15-9 in points. If it was the other way round I could guarantee we would be bombarded with posts saying Nick should retire. He's outperformed Kubica comprehensively this year IMO, and deserves to be on the grid next year with a competitive Sauber team, if not somewhere else. 2006 (6 GPs) - Heidfeld 10 points, Kubica 6 2007 - Heidfeld 61, Kubica 39 2008 - Heidfeld 60, Kubica 75 2009 - Heidfeld 15, Kubica 9 Total - Heidfeld 146, Kubica 129 They have been fairly evenly matched, but IMO Nick has had the advantage over the period they have teamed together. However we must remember that Robert is much younger than Nick, so he will probably get better. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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