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**casinoboneerer** · 10-04-2009, 03:35 PM

Anyone notice that when Sutil got spun around that he kept his foot in and tried to spin the car immediately...... Last week he took someone out, this week he was luckier. I do hope this gets raised with him because it's just unsafe.

**DavidQD** · 10-04-2009, 03:37 PM

He's rapidly becoming the new Sato

**dittygari** · 10-04-2009, 03:44 PM

@Steve...come on mate,that's too harsh on Sutil

**MedicineForUs** · 10-04-2009, 04:20 PM

Noticed that myself. If this habit (?) doesn't change he or whoever runs into him will be seriously hurt.

**DavidQD** · 10-04-2009, 04:21 PM

@Steve...come on mate,that's too harsh on Sutil

He hasn't gotten there yet, but if he keeps punting cars off the track he may earn the distinction!

**pumpineemob** · 10-04-2009, 04:29 PM

i saw that too, but to be fair he could see what was coming this time so i don't think it was dangerous, in fact i thought it was rather nifty

**wrbwrbwrb** · 10-04-2009, 05:08 PM

i saw that too, but to be fair he could see what was coming this time so i don't think it was dangerous, in fact i thought it was rather nifty

Spot on.

**ggiifdfalls** · 10-04-2009, 08:43 PM

Give the guy a break.
He certainly did a huge mistake in Singapore, but today nothing like that happened.

**ggiifdfalls** · 10-04-2009, 08:44 PM

i saw that too, but to be fair he could see what was coming this time so i don't think it was dangerous, in fact i thought it was rather nifty

Exactly.

**jamemeveRhype** · 10-04-2009, 08:56 PM

He hasn't gotten there yet, but if he keeps punting cars off the track he may earn the distinction!

Looked like Kova punting Sutil off to me - Sutil had made the pass.....

WT

**picinaRefadia** · 10-04-2009, 11:29 PM

50/50

In the heat of the moment Sutil didn't realise leaving Kovy a cars width at the second apex was not going to allow the McLaren back through. Kovy had no KERS left until the line and tight to the kerb would provide no traction and the wrong line to the pit straight so in hindsight I'm sure Sutil would have left the room

However Kovy knew he was going at least ten laps longer so letting the pass happen would have cost him nothing.

**casinoboneerer** · 10-04-2009, 11:36 PM

50/50

In the heat of the moment Sutil didn't realise leaving Kovy a cars width at the second apex was not going to allow the McLaren back through. Kovy had no KERS left until the line and tight to the kerb would provide no traction and the wrong line to the pit straight so in hindsight I'm sure Sutil would have left the room

However Kovy knew he was going at least ten laps longer so letting the pass happen would have cost him nothing.

The coming together is not what is being discussed in this thread, I'm discussing the fact that whilst Kovalainen was spinning Sutil around, Sutil still had his foot in as he did in Singapore. I don't think he could have known if anyone was really that far behind.

**pumpineemob** · 10-04-2009, 11:48 PM

The coming together is not what is being discussed in this thread, I'm discussing the fact that whilst Kovalainen was spinning Sutil around, Sutil still had his foot in as he did in Singapore. I don't think he could have known if anyone was really that far behind.

well you could see pretty clearly from the onboard, as Button went through and there was a big gap to any more cars, so he was far from unsighted.

no doubt singapore was a boneheaded move as the corner/walls meant there was no line of sight, but this week it was quite a reasonable move imo

**picinaRefadia** · 10-04-2009, 11:55 PM

The coming together is not what is being discussed in this thread, I'm discussing the fact that whilst Kovalainen was spinning Sutil around, Sutil still had his foot in as he did in Singapore. I don't think he could have known if anyone was really that far behind.

Errrm. Threads often go off topic; I was merely adding my POV to the pot in reply to previous posts re: the cause of the shunt.

**Solo3uc4** · 10-05-2009, 01:48 AM

Looked like Kova punting Sutil off to me - Sutil had made the pass.....

WT

yep

**JesexhiSeeces** · 10-05-2009, 03:37 AM

Sutil's instinct is gas first, brake second. I'm pretty sure his team made him completely aware of his surroundings and he did the right thing.

Kova gets the Donkey and should have been given a penalty for not ceding the position when he was beaten.

**Flatlytaize** · 10-05-2009, 06:15 AM

When Sutil spun he was facing the opposite direction and had a much better view of oncoming cars and quite rightly spin turned the car.

What Sutil did at Singapore was utterly stupid. He should've at the very least crept his car forward as some sort of acknowledgement of oncoming cars.

**Liaptoono** · 10-05-2009, 10:34 AM

Anyone notice that when Sutil got spun around that he kept his foot in and tried to spin the car immediately...... Last week he took someone out, this week he was luckier. I do hope this gets raised with him because it's just unsafe.

When did that become the wrong thing to do? Was it when the cars got anti-stall programing?

**SkapySisy** · 10-05-2009, 12:08 PM

he is far better than SATO. he crashes with style. not like SATO who use to crash alone

But he needs a spanking on the arse from vijay Mallaya for loosing a point scoring position

10-04-2009, 03:35 PM	#1
casinoboneerer Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 466 Senior Member	Sutil does it again..... Anyone notice that when Sutil got spun around that he kept his foot in and tried to spin the car immediately...... Last week he took someone out, this week he was luckier. I do hope this gets raised with him because it's just unsafe. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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DavidQD Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 482 Senior Member	He's rapidly becoming the new Sato Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-04-2009, 03:44 PM	#3
dittygari Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 549 Senior Member	@Steve...come on mate,that's too harsh on Sutil Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-04-2009, 04:20 PM	#4
MedicineForUs Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 389 Senior Member	Noticed that myself. If this habit (?) doesn't change he or whoever runs into him will be seriously hurt. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-04-2009, 04:21 PM	#5
DavidQD Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 482 Senior Member	@Steve...come on mate,that's too harsh on Sutil He hasn't gotten there yet, but if he keeps punting cars off the track he may earn the distinction! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-04-2009, 04:29 PM	#6
pumpineemob Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 474 Senior Member	i saw that too, but to be fair he could see what was coming this time so i don't think it was dangerous, in fact i thought it was rather nifty Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-04-2009, 05:08 PM	#7
wrbwrbwrb Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 355 Senior Member	i saw that too, but to be fair he could see what was coming this time so i don't think it was dangerous, in fact i thought it was rather nifty Spot on. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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ggiifdfalls Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 540 Senior Member	Give the guy a break. He certainly did a huge mistake in Singapore, but today nothing like that happened. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-04-2009, 08:44 PM	#9
ggiifdfalls Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 540 Senior Member	i saw that too, but to be fair he could see what was coming this time so i don't think it was dangerous, in fact i thought it was rather nifty Exactly. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-04-2009, 08:56 PM	#10
jamemeveRhype Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 415 Senior Member	He hasn't gotten there yet, but if he keeps punting cars off the track he may earn the distinction! Looked like Kova punting Sutil off to me - Sutil had made the pass..... WT Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-04-2009, 11:29 PM	#11
picinaRefadia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 475 Senior Member	50/50 In the heat of the moment Sutil didn't realise leaving Kovy a cars width at the second apex was not going to allow the McLaren back through. Kovy had no KERS left until the line and tight to the kerb would provide no traction and the wrong line to the pit straight so in hindsight I'm sure Sutil would have left the room However Kovy knew he was going at least ten laps longer so letting the pass happen would have cost him nothing. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-04-2009, 11:36 PM	#12
casinoboneerer Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 466 Senior Member	50/50 In the heat of the moment Sutil didn't realise leaving Kovy a cars width at the second apex was not going to allow the McLaren back through. Kovy had no KERS left until the line and tight to the kerb would provide no traction and the wrong line to the pit straight so in hindsight I'm sure Sutil would have left the room However Kovy knew he was going at least ten laps longer so letting the pass happen would have cost him nothing. The coming together is not what is being discussed in this thread, I'm discussing the fact that whilst Kovalainen was spinning Sutil around, Sutil still had his foot in as he did in Singapore. I don't think he could have known if anyone was really that far behind. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-04-2009, 11:48 PM	#13
pumpineemob Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 474 Senior Member	The coming together is not what is being discussed in this thread, I'm discussing the fact that whilst Kovalainen was spinning Sutil around, Sutil still had his foot in as he did in Singapore. I don't think he could have known if anyone was really that far behind. well you could see pretty clearly from the onboard, as Button went through and there was a big gap to any more cars, so he was far from unsighted. no doubt singapore was a boneheaded move as the corner/walls meant there was no line of sight, but this week it was quite a reasonable move imo Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-04-2009, 11:55 PM	#14
picinaRefadia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 475 Senior Member	The coming together is not what is being discussed in this thread, I'm discussing the fact that whilst Kovalainen was spinning Sutil around, Sutil still had his foot in as he did in Singapore. I don't think he could have known if anyone was really that far behind. Errrm. Threads often go off topic; I was merely adding my POV to the pot in reply to previous posts re: the cause of the shunt. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2009, 01:48 AM	#15
Solo3uc4 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 460 Senior Member	Looked like Kova punting Sutil off to me - Sutil had made the pass..... WT yep Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2009, 03:37 AM	#16
JesexhiSeeces Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 406 Senior Member	Sutil's instinct is gas first, brake second. I'm pretty sure his team made him completely aware of his surroundings and he did the right thing. Kova gets the Donkey and should have been given a penalty for not ceding the position when he was beaten. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2009, 06:15 AM	#17
Flatlytaize Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 471 Senior Member	When Sutil spun he was facing the opposite direction and had a much better view of oncoming cars and quite rightly spin turned the car. What Sutil did at Singapore was utterly stupid. He should've at the very least crept his car forward as some sort of acknowledgement of oncoming cars. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2009, 10:34 AM	#18
Liaptoono Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 679 Senior Member	Anyone notice that when Sutil got spun around that he kept his foot in and tried to spin the car immediately...... Last week he took someone out, this week he was luckier. I do hope this gets raised with him because it's just unsafe. When did that become the wrong thing to do? Was it when the cars got anti-stall programing? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2009, 12:08 PM	#19
SkapySisy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 471 Senior Member	he is far better than SATO. he crashes with style. not like SATO who use to crash alone But he needs a spanking on the arse from vijay Mallaya for loosing a point scoring position Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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