[Clunlippibe]

What's the deal?

[Anavaralo]

Rubens is a good driver, it's just that BGP are the 3rd best team and the fact that they have won 3/4 races is purely down to Jenson Button.


But on a less fictitious note he is seriously underperforming. His only podium so far was a very lucky one.

[nitivearchit]

Well his recent performances have cured me of the little bout of rubens fan fever I suffered from recently. Up till china i'd been singing his praises (even suggesting a win at china wa on the cards) but the fact is either jenson is as good as shumi was (which I just can't belive) or rubens is well bellow his best. I still want the guy to do well but I should think ross brawn will be having a little chat with rubens shortly about becoming a rear gunner again.

[RilmAlime67]

What's the deal?

BIG

[deackatera]

Only a bad start in Australia prevented him from challenging Button, and a terrible strategy in Bahrain kept him off the podium. He may have beaten Vettel and Trulli if not for that idiotic three stopper.

I said in the other thread, he's driving as well as in 2004, if not better, free from the pressures of Ferrari and a bad car with Honda. He just needs a bit of luck and he'll be winning again. I wouldn't put it past him in Spain actually. Although he'll have to beat Button and Trulli who have a history of driving well there.

[MADwanker]

Actually, I'm delighted that he is performing at the level he is, if only because it will shut up those ones who thought he should have got equal treatment at Ferrari.

Interesting concept.

Did he ever do enough to warrent equal treatment. I would say no.

Did he deserve to have been so handicapped though?

He was and is a very quick driver but possibly not on the same level as his two team mates.

[Paiblyelaxy]

Actually, I'm delighted that he is performing at the level he is, if only because it will shut up those ones who thought he should have got equal treatment at Ferrari.

Tamburello - since you've read James Allen's book, you'll know Rubens has said there was more it and then we'll wait after he retires....

I think Rubens is on the verge of turning into the shadow of his former self. There seems to be a spark missing. His races have been poor so far compared to his Ferrari days when he could race against the McLarens.

[Lenkapuppia]

About a year ago I thought that maybe it's better for Barrichello to retire (bad car, no future, underperforming, what else?), but now... I'd like to see him to carry on for a long time. Hard to explain - some kind of a wish to see him creating an incredible participation record, because he seems so motivated and full of will to do well and still prove something in F1. But that can happen only if he performed better or well enough to warrant a seat in F1 for the future, because so far in 2009 he hasn't done much alas...

I said in the other thread, he's driving as well as in 2004, if not better, free from the pressures of Ferrari and a bad car with Honda. He just needs a bit of luck and he'll be winning again. I wouldn't put it past him in Spain actually. Although he'll have to beat Button and Trulli who have a history of driving well there.

China was supposed to be Rubens' strong circuit too + wet conditions, where he has often excelled, yet he didn't do much and was struggling to beat Kova in a McLaren. It's difficult to keep belief in Rubens. I can't believe he is driving as well as in 2004... or otherwise MS is nothing special.

[deackatera]

About a year ago I thought that maybe it's better for Barrichello to retire (bad car, no future, underperforming, what else?), but now... I'd like to see him to carry on for a long time. Hard to explain - some kind of a wish to see him creating an incredible participation record, because he seems so motivated and full of will to do well and still prove something in F1. But that can happen only if he performed better or well enough to warrant a seat in F1 for the future, because so far in 2009 he hasn't done much alas...



China was supposed to be Rubens' strong circuit too + wet conditions, where he has often excelled, yet he didn't do much and was struggling to beat Kova in a McLaren. It's difficult to keep belief in Rubens. I can't believe he is driving as well as in 2004... or otherwise MS is nothing special.

Well yes, but the Brawn itself wasn't particularly great in Shanghai as they'd had little wet running. Although his quali wasn't great to be fair. I think Schumacher is a genius and he is certainly a special driver, but this is as aggressive and feisty as I've ever seen Barrichello.

I'm sure he'll get to 300 Grands Prix. I just hope he gets there with at least a couple more wins otherwise unfortunately he will just be seen as a journeyman.

[Toivaluadiora]

Actually, I'm delighted that he is performing at the level he is, if only because it will shut up those ones who thought he should have got equal treatment at Ferrari.

But , isn't there any connection for the "ones" to make , that Ross was then , and is now , in charge of Rubens' strategy ?
Could it not be said that he was employed to be a number 2 , now to Button , as he was to the red shoe ?

I don't think I've seen any mention of even the possibility that Button is being favoured in the same way that as Michael .

I find it curious that those "ones" , who doubted Michael's prowess , and slagged Rubens for his number 2 status , haven't considered that Button might have an edge more than skill .

It's not like I think Jensen is slow . I like him , and admire his skill , and smooth style , but I am a JV fan , and I know he was favoured in that era . I don't think it's a stretch to think he is now , too .

Jensen , in my opinion , learned a lot from Michael .
He learned what to do , and what not to do .
He's the un-tarnished Brit .



I know . I know .
Someone from the colonies shouldn't have such uppity opinions .
I shall say 3 "Hail Jensens" .

[zlopikanikanza]

Too old

[autoloanexpert]

Actually, I'm delighted that he is performing at the level he is, if only because it will shut up those ones who thought he should have got equal treatment at Ferrari.

Aye!

[RichardFG435]

Too old

Explain?

[nitivearchit]

Indeed. Explain. Age is not relevant.

[zlopikanikanza]

Explain?

Indeed. Explain. Age is not relevant.

Eyes, fitness, reaction times , motivation all declining.

If age isn't relevant then why isn't Mansell or Alesi still out there? Of course it's relevant in sport

[RilmAlime67]

Eyes, fitness, reaction times , motivation all declining.

If age isn't relevant then why isn't Mansell or Alesi still out there? Of course it's relevant in sport

Unfortunately, this is true. The only sport that I know of where aged competitors excel is yachting, because many, many years of experience counts on critical decisions. Many old salts compete quite successfully in the Sydney Hobart here, and I am sure in many top races all over the world.

[Qdkczrdi]

Unfortunately, this is true. The only sport that I know of where aged competitors excel is yachting, because many, many years of experience counts on critical decisions. Many old salts compete quite successfully in the Sydney Hobart here, and I am sure in many top races all over the world.

You should add in sex...that idea works great with the youngsters, I am here to say based on personal expeirence

util they discover otherwise, but then it is too late....

As to rubens, the real problem is first his right foot braking style hurts, and second, the car style and his style do not match up as well as Button and his style with the car

Otherwise, Button would still be runing behind him (or so close that you could not say one was doing better than the other) as Button did for the last several years

[Frodogzzz]

What's the deal?

Bunsen is just so good that Ruby baby cant keep up. Hell, in 2004 Bunsen even said he could beat Schumacher in a straight fight. Wakes up...coffee is cold.

[Qdkczrdi]

Bunsen is just so good that Ruby baby cant keep up. Hell, in 2004 Bunsen even said he could beat Schumacher in a straight fight. Wakes up...coffee is cold.

hell, if bunsen said it, it must be true......I wonder how he would have done in a gay fight?

Well hell, in 2004, I could beat Schumacher in a straight fight.
Indeed, in 1968, I beat Rolf Schumacher in a straight fight,
so now whose your daddy, schumi??

[onelovemp]

Eyes, fitness, reaction times , motivation all declining.

If age isn't relevant then why isn't Mansell or Alesi still out there? Of course it's relevant in sport

Mansell won it when he was 39, Schumi could still race at the front at the age of 40.....Prost wasn't that young when he won his last championship. I think Rubens isn't hungry enough anymore. I've never rated him anyway...