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Old 04-02-2009, 07:41 AM   #21
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Why was he behind Hamilton at the start? I though that Hamilton was 18th and the two Toyota's were last.
Sorry, after watching it again I made a mistake, he wasn't behind Hamilton. he actually got a decent start and was behind Buemi. He slowed down when the Webber/Kovy chaos took place, and then Sutil hit him (that was how Sutil lost his front wing) and both Force Indias went by him. Hamilton was behind them all.
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Old 04-02-2009, 07:29 PM   #22
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At this time last year, SB was a rookie and was faster than vettel.

Buemi beating him only shows Vettel is nothing special.
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Old 04-02-2009, 07:32 PM   #23
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At this time last year, SB was a rookie and was faster than vettel.

Buemi beating him only shows Vettel is nothing special.
We have seen one race thus far, and I find your logic there a little convoluted. One thing doesn't necessarily follow from the other.
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Old 04-02-2009, 07:35 PM   #24
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We have seen one race thus far, and I find your logic there a little convoluted. One thing doesn't necessarily follow from the other.
Still, Buemi beating Bourdais shows it is not neccesarily such a feat that vettel fanatics try to make it to be, especially considering that whenever Bourdais was half-happy with his car, he was right on vettels pace.
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Old 04-02-2009, 07:37 PM   #25
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If I remember Australia correctly, Vettel was challenging for at least 2nd place when he collided with Kubica. That's not too shabby, is it Garry?
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Old 04-02-2009, 07:37 PM   #26
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I think that Vettel winning a race and being far closer to the leaders' pace in others is more of a marker of his talent than the fact that Buemi beat Bourdais in one race and Bourdais beat Vettel in the same race last year, which is an analysis of driver performance that doesn't bear a great deal of credence.
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Old 04-03-2009, 04:56 AM   #27
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At this time last year, SB was a rookie and was faster than vettel.

Buemi beating him only shows Vettel is nothing special.
A year ago, Vettel was 6th in Q2 at Melbourne before his car failed in Q3. Bourdais, IIRC, didn't make it through Q1.
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Old 04-03-2009, 02:50 PM   #28
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Buemi has a high consistency, he is not a man easily exploded. My impression on him.
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Old 04-03-2009, 03:24 PM   #29
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Replacing Bourdais won't be an easy task - where are Toro Rosso going to find another qualified driver named Sebastian???
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Old 04-18-2009, 05:03 PM   #30
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Thought it was worth bringing this back to the front....

Taxi for Bourdais?
Maybe Bourdais should have never left CART (or Indy) for F1. He is really showing his limitations right now.
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Old 04-18-2009, 05:15 PM   #31
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Can't help but think, how would Sato have fared against Buemi?
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Old 04-18-2009, 06:08 PM   #32
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Can't help but think, how would Sato have fared against Buemi?
Maybe better maybe worse. What is the point of your question exactly? Gratuitous Sato bashing?
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Old 04-18-2009, 06:19 PM   #33
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Thought it was worth bringing this back to the front....

Taxi for Bourdais?
Didn't have any excuses in the interview I heard, if that's your point again.
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Old 04-18-2009, 06:28 PM   #34
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I guess Tam just meant that Bourdais was slow.
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Old 04-18-2009, 06:36 PM   #35
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Maybe better maybe worse. What is the point of your question exactly? Gratuitous Sato bashing?
Where do you see bashing? I'm just thinking that looking at Bourdais' struggle, Sato wouldn't have been such a bad choice either like it was made out by many in winter, when the discussions, who deserves STR seat - SB or TS - were at its height.
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Old 04-18-2009, 06:44 PM   #36
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1st remember last years car was a race winner

RACE SPEED, SCOTT BOURDAIS, SEBASTIEN
R S B
1 13 7
2 Ret Ret
3 9 15
4 7 Ret
5 11 Ret
6 Ret Ret
7 13 13
8 Ret 17
9 10 11
10 Ret 12
11 10 18
12 12 10
13 11 7
14 13 18
15 13 12
16 14 10
17 18 13
18 11 14
when you look at it scott speed was a better driver
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Old 04-18-2009, 07:55 PM   #37
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My point is that Buemi got in Q3. He's the rookie one, remember? If Bourdais doesn't pick up soon, he can start looking for that full-time Indycar ride that F1 almost lost him to.
If he wants to do that IRL (Indy racing losers) series, he missed his chance for this year as Sports Illustrated has already done their swimsuit photo shoot for this year, may be better luck next year



AMEN, Scoottie Speeed, america's hero, ruined by that those two german losers--they should be banned to the IRL----
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Old 04-18-2009, 09:03 PM   #38
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Where do you see bashing? I'm just thinking that looking at Bourdais' struggle, Sato wouldn't have been such a bad choice either like it was made out by many in winter, when the discussions, who deserves STR seat - SB or TS - were at its height.
OK, that's better. Sorry for misunderstanding your point.
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Old 04-18-2009, 09:32 PM   #39
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Wow, a lot of hatred for a genuinely nice guy. He has been disappointing this year, no doubt. Vettel is clearly a top talent, but Bourdais should be holding his own against seb III.
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:11 PM   #40
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Bourdais is struggling against a rookie who most thought was fast-tracked beyond what his results deserved ...
Funny thing is, that sentence reminded me of another driver whom we all thought has been fast-tracked to F1 and doesn't deserve his super license and might be a danger to other drivers. A certain Finn I am talking about
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