[CalBettaulp]

After I have read about that Mercedes would like to leave the Formula One and also that Ferrari would like to leave the Formula One. It brings me to a question:

Can the Formula One live on without Ferrari or Mercedes?

I think yes! I know Ferrari has had a big part in the Formula One's history but I think the Formula One can live on without Ferrari and vice versa. I know it sounds weird but that's the opportunity for the little teams to win the world title.

[9wQlZkIj]

In a word. Yes. Whilst important, ferrari is but one team as is mercedes. We went 40 years without silver arrows, and ferrari have threatened to pull out in the past (even building an indy car) but they know as well as anyone that they needs f1 more than f1 needs ferrari.

[verybigf]

If something like that happens F1 will lose at least the half of the spectators...So,F1 cannot live without Ferrari and not vice versa!!!

[9wQlZkIj]

I disagree. Ferrari remains probably the only (imo) team that races on sunday and sells on monday. Without a visible race team ferrari road cars sales would suffer after a few years.

[leacturavar]

I can't see ferrari leaving F1.
I also do not see Mercedes leaving F1. I could see them leaving McLaren for Brawn Gp though....

[AnetTeilor]

The first ever World Championship race took place without Ferraris. There have also been a few assorted *ahem* "metal workers strikes" dotted down the years that have caused Ferrari to miss a few races.

Admittedly these were single races in isolation, although IIRC they skipped the entire last half of 1973 to concentrate on '74 (basically what Honda/Brawn did except Honda had to still turn up and go through the motions because of the Concorde Agreement etc.)

Anyway my point is Ferraris have been missing before, F1 is not Ferrari and Ferrari is not F1.

Having said that, I have to agree with Sonic in that motor racing has made the Ferrari brand, not the other way round.

[unmalryAlalry]

This old chestnut...

Yes of course the racing could continue without Ferrari but it would be devalued immensely... and to those who rub their hand with glee at the very thought of no Ferrari in F1.. you come across as the kind of people who would cut of their nose just to spite their own face.

My Loyalties in F1 do not lie with Ferrari but I fail to see how the withdrawal of the Scuderia would be anything but negative for the Sport... same applies to McLaren (Mercedes are just an engine supplier which own a medium stake in a team... and disruptive as it might be, their withdrawn would be less significant)

[unmalryAlalry]

I disagree. Ferrari remains probably the only (imo) team that races on sunday and sells on monday. Without a visible race team ferrari road cars sales would suffer after a few years.

OK yes that is right... that is why Lamborghini's sell so well it is because of their domination on the track

[9wQlZkIj]

Figures I've seen suggest ferrari sell close to 7000 cars per year. Lambo only a 1/3 of that. I've no idea how accurate these figures are but i'd say they give a good view that ferrari is a way more popular brand - I would propose as a direct result of its racing program.

[Fiesialenp]

Yes of course the racing could continue without Ferrari but it would be devalued immensely... and to those who rub their hand with glee at the very thought of no Ferrari in F1.. you come across as the kind of people who would cut of their nose just to spite their own face.

I agree. I would go further and say the same of anyone who rubs their hands with glee at anything negative happening in relation to any F1 team or driver.

[Fiesialenp]

Formula One without Ferrari would be like sex without consent.

Some people might get off on it, but it would never be socially acceptable.

Like it!

[autoloanexpert]

Formula One without Ferrari would be like sex without consent.

Some people might get off on it, but it would never be socially acceptable.

ROFL!

[unmalryAlalry]

Figures I've seen suggest Ferrari sell close to 7000 cars per year. Lambo only a 1/3 of that. I've no idea how accurate these figures are but i'd say they give a good view that Ferrari is a way more popular brand - I would propose as a direct result of its racing program.

And I suppose the 20 years Ferrari where a laughing stock in F1 the never sold a single motor... Ferrari have not 'needed' their F1 racing to sell their road cars for many years... it is their history and it certainly helps, but it is not essential...

[Trientoriciom]

I hope it will never happen. While sometimes they possibly seem to have a more than healthy influence - F1 needs Ferrari. They are the most charismatic name in Motorsport. Long may they continue.

[9wQlZkIj]

And I suppose the 20 years Ferrari where a laughing stock in F1 the never sold a single motor... Ferrari have not 'needed' their F1 racing to sell their road cars for many years... it is their history and it certainly helps, but it is not essential...

Agreed. Your screen name proves your point; either you own or aspire to own a cooper - trading on motorsport success 50 years old.

But back to the original question no one team is bigger than the sport as a whole.

[unmalryAlalry]

Agreed. Your screen name proves your point; either you own or aspire to own a cooper - trading on motorsport success 50 years old.

Aspire... I love an ex works Mini Cooper or replica

But back to the original question no one team is bigger than the sport as a whole. Totally agree, my point was that without the likes if Ferrari and McLaren the championship would be devalue for many years... but if F1 was still going 10 years after they pulled out then the new order would be established and we would be watching as we do now without Lotus

[RilmAlime67]

After I have read about that Mercedes would like to leave the Formula One and also that Ferrari would like to leave the Formula One. It brings me to a question:

Can the Formula One live on without Ferrari or Mercedes?

I think yes! I know Ferrari has had a big part in the Formula One's history but I think the Formula One can live on without Ferrari and vice versa. I know it sounds weird but that's the opportunity for the little teams to win the world title.

The more important question here is whether the two companies will stop supplying engines to the other teams.

[unmalryAlalry]

The more important question here is whether the two companies will stop supplying engines to the other teams.

I don't think they would stop supplying but maybe stop developing them...

[Fiesialenp]

Totally agree, my point was that without the likes if Ferrari and McLaren the championship would be devalue for many years... but if F1 was still going 10 years after they pulled out then the new order would be established and we would be watching as we do now without Lotus

I'm sure we would, too, despite the undoubted enormous blow of a Ferrari withdrawal in particular. I also agree with the view that while Ferrari's F1 involvement has undoubtedly added much lustre to the marque, I doubt that it's central to its success today. There was a time when Ferrari's involvement in sportscar racing was just as important to it as its F1 participation (some might argue more so, given the prominence of sportscar racing at that time and the very definite link between racing and roadgoing sportscars) and it managed to survive pulling out of that.

[Lolita Palmer]

i do not think that i will happen

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Ferrari is celebrating a good result even as it prepares to redeem itself on the track at the upcoming Bahrain Grand Prix. According to the Fiat Group's