[Payodcapy542fro]

What would you like, a pile up in the 1st corner. In the dramer, one car goes over another, and another car ends up upside down. (Both very dangerous crashes for the drivers). Or maybe we could have a Spa syle crash, where 3/4 of the field is wiped out.

Motor racing is dangerous, we all except that, but if it can be made less dangerous, maybe by following the safty car for a few laps. Espically as none of them drivers had driven the track in the rain. Then all the good. I will admit its a bit boring to watch, but its safty first.

Uh, I said that if it's not expected to be safe to start the race proper, THEN DON'T START THE RACE. Delay it until it is safe, rather than starting AND running behind the SC for an extended time. [I allowed for a rolling start after a SC formation lap, rather than a standing start. And, moreover, that they should red-flag and void the original start if it quickly becomes clear that starting was a mistake]

You didn't read my post at all did you?

If it's safe to start the race, then start the race. If not, then don't start the race.

Conditions didn't change much between starting the race under safety car and the race propper did they?

I agree that if they are going to start, then 2 sighting laps maximum and off they go.

I agree.

[DesautocaD]

Has F1 racing really changed so much since I've taken interest an interest to it?

15 years ago the race would have had a normal standing start, and in my opinion more dangerous conditions: traction control so the cars get up to speed faster, and allot more drivers "jumping" the start. watching some old 1995 speedtv decade races, I swear it seemed that at least 3 or 4 drivers at each race had to serve a 10s penalty for jumping the start, amazing that it pretty much never happens these days...

thankfully the majority have gotten over the 'it has to be dangerous to be entertaining'

sure there is a element of risk but to have unnessary risk and make it twice as dangerous just for someone's 'entertainment value' or so that F1 isnt soft is just recklesness and stupidity

we havent had a F1 death since Senna and quite frankly I want it to stay that way

[DesautocaD]

They should call it "Formula " and be done with it. Safety car starts? The world's going soft. People have paid big money for a grandstand seat to see racing drivers do what they are meant to do, not watch a mid-range Mercedes nanny them.

so we want to undully danger drivers lives to prove they are not soft - get real!!!!!!!!

If its not safe to start the race DONT

[Gudronich]

thankfully the majority have gotten over the 'it has to be dangerous to be entertaining'

sure there is a element of risk but to have unnessary risk and make it twice as dangerous just for someone's 'entertainment value' or so that F1 isnt soft is just recklesness and stupidity

we havent had a F1 death since Senna and quite frankly I want it to stay that way

How can you consider being dangerous at risk of someone life is entertainment value, I know it had outstanding box-office returns, how many titles sequel of 'psycho' you have watched?

[DesautocaD]

How can you consider being dangerous at risk of someone life is entertainment value, I know it had outstanding box-office returns, how many titles sequel of 'psycho' you have watched?

thats what I said - how bout you read the post before you get stuck in

[Gudronich]

thats what I said - how bout you read the post before you get stuck in

it was not trying to stick out for anything..., seems I just misinterpret negative form of present perfect as probability of expectation. I haven't met her (yet), may indicate that I hope to meet her...
However I could be wrong though...

Agree that we can have entertaining point of a race other than putting the race in dangerous state or any maneuver get to the point of our concern upon.

[Ikrleprl]

Uh, I said that if it's not expected to be safe to start the race proper, THEN DON'T START THE RACE. Delay it until it is safe, rather than starting AND running behind the SC for an extended time. [I allowed for a rolling start after a SC formation lap, rather than a standing start. And, moreover, that they should red-flag and void the original start if it quickly becomes clear that starting was a mistake]

You didn't read my post at all did you?


I agree.

Red flag the race and void the original start if it quickly becomes clear that starting was a mistake. You mean after a big accident then.

You buy tickets for the race, and it gets delayed, then cancelled because of rain. Or would you rather watch 6 to 10 laps behind a SC, then the race.
Delaying a race these days is not an option, with the tight TV times etc. Altough i must point out, thats crap, and i do think a delay to drier conditions would be good. But that would be pointless in China, because it stayed wet.
And useless in Maylasia, because it got dark.
I just dont see any other option.

[andrekuper]

I don't think any of us who have commented that the drivers were "soft" desire danger/death for entertainment. Simply that the safety car is used proportionally to the danger level. We have tipped too far one way now using the SC in conditions that 5 years ago would have run at full speed.